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PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2006 10:05 am    Post subject: way to cool cylinder head temps Reply with quote


having just put about 3 hrs. on my newly completed RV-6, I have a queston
about cylinder head temps. The temps are reading between 150-200. This just
doesn't seems possible. My question is what to check first. Should I
calibrate my temp guage? block off the air inlet? I'm not sure what to do
first as all my other temps are normal. Oil is 170-180, EGT's are 1200-1500.
RPM's are all normal, 2300 static, 2750 full throttle, both mags seems to
work fine, and the engine sounds good. I just don't know if I am doing any
harm by continuing to run at these indicated temps. The outside temperature
here in Sheridan Wy. has been in the 40's lately and shouldn't be a factor.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2006 10:40 am    Post subject: way to cool cylinder head temps Reply with quote


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2006 10:58 am    Post subject: way to cool cylinder head temps Reply with quote


Dave,
Perhaps you're seeing temperatures in C versus F on CHT; and F for both
oil and EGT?
If you're guage is reporting on the Celsius scale for CHT in the 150-200
range, you're closing matching "normal" range in Fahrenheit, at least
from my own experience with my new RV-6A. That'd be approximately
300-390 F, which is where my CHT's are operating at the rpm's you noted
after about 15 hours of operation. And my oil and EGT numbers are right
where yours are in Fahrenheit degrees (although I'm seeing a max of
about 1350 on EGT, not 1500).
Hope this was helpful,
Duane Hopper
DAVE MADER wrote:
having just put about 3 hrs. on my newly completed RV-6, I have a queston
about cylinder head temps. The temps are reading between 150-200. This just
doesn't seems possible. My question is what to check first. Should I
calibrate my temp guage? block off the air inlet? I'm not sure what to do
first as all my other temps are normal. Oil is 170-180, EGT's are 1200-1500.
RPM's are all normal, 2300 static, 2750 full throttle, both mags seems to
work fine, and the engine sounds good. I just don't know if I am doing any
harm by continuing to run at these indicated temps. The outside temperature
here in Sheridan Wy. has been in the 40's lately and shouldn't be a factor.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2006 11:15 am    Post subject: way to cool cylinder head temps Reply with quote


What kind of probes do you have: the bayonets that go into the bottom of the
cylinders or the ring thermocouples around the spark plug? Do you have a
probe for each cylinder? Have you checked for calibration? I would get a
coffee can or equivalent, put some water in it, mount it on the engine
somewhere within reach of the probe and put a torch to it until it boils.
Check for 212 degrees F at the instrument (roughly). You obviously have an
indication problem, so you need to troubleshoot to find out if it's a
thermocouple, wiring, or indicator problem. Sounds like you have only one
probe, so this might make it more difficult to troubleshoot. Hope this
helps.
Pat Hatch
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2006 4:10 pm    Post subject: way to cool cylinder head temps Reply with quote



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2006 4:31 pm    Post subject: way to cool cylinder head temps Reply with quote


Uh, yeah, but isn't "spell check" two words? That's what my spelchekur
says.
Jeff Point
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I see your problem. You should really have installed a gauge. Use
spellcheck people.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2006 4:38 pm    Post subject: way to cool cylinder head temps Reply with quote


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2006 5:09 pm    Post subject: way to cool cylinder head temps Reply with quote


Guys
Found my problem today and am almost embarassed to say what it is. (I don't
think spelling it correctly would have solved it) What I did was put the
probes in the wrong spot on each cylinder. On the 0-360 there are 2,
sometimes 3 different threaded taps for various things. Probes, primer, etc.
What I did was install the CHT sensors directly above where the intake tube
connect to the bottom of the cylinder. The probe was seeing much cooler temps
from the fuel, air mixture coming in. The CHT probe goes in the threaded hole
in the bottom center of each cylinder. DUH! Temps all normal now and
everything in the green. Maybe this post will help the 1 in a thousand that
didn't know this.
Dave Mader
RV-6.....3.8 hrs today
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2006 6:02 pm    Post subject: way to cool cylinder head temps Reply with quote


Dave,
Glad to hear you found your problem...Another cue is that the probes are NOT
pipe threads, so if you tried one of the 1/8" pipe fitting taps, it should
not thread properly, indicating that you are in the wrong hole. Don't ask
how I know...You mentioned the proper hole is in the bottom center of the
cylinder--also, the proper hole is not capped or plugged.
Pat Hatch


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2006 8:33 pm    Post subject: way to cool cylinder head temps Reply with quote


An older A&P once told me the best way to calibrate
CHT probes was to immerse them in almost boiling
water. When it boils, the guage should read 212
degrees. If not, adjust appropriately.
Dave
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2006 10:16 pm    Post subject: way to cool cylinder head temps Reply with quote


Dave,
Perhaps (at) Sealevel. Boilingpoint varies with altitude/-airpressure. Lower air pressurelower boilingpoint of water.
Albuquerque is at ~5000+ft. and Spaghetti cooking takes longer here because of the lower boiling temperatures.
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