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HBaker

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Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 5:28 pm Post subject: Tack generator

I  have just bought a tack generator, for the M14 but cannot find out where it goes, must be another adapter or something, any one have a pic, also  where is a good place  to mount the water separator.

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Currently building a Murphy Moose - any help would be appreciated.

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Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 6:17 am Post subject: Tack generator

See attached.

 Dennis

  

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eddiemoranii(at)yahoo.com
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Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 1:46 pm Post subject: Tack generator

To all,



I tell you what, guys like Dennis, Steve, George, Doug, etc. are an invaluable asset to us.  I could NOT have installed my M14 into my Moose without them.



If you have not contributed to Matronics then you need too.



Eddie



--- On Tue, 12/30/08, A. Dennis Savarese <dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net> wrote:

[quote]From: A. Dennis Savarese <dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net>

Subject: Re: Tack generator

To: m14pengines-list(at)matronics.com

Date: Tuesday, December 30, 2008, 9:16 AM



       See attached.

 Dennis

  

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Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 4:28 pm Post subject: Tack generator

Just a word of caution.  If the original thread on mount for the tach generator is still there, no problem.  It's easy to install.  If the outer plate had been removed, be very cautious.  If you remove the wrong plate at that tach gen attachment point, you can disturb the air start distributor timing which is one of the worst things to get working again on the entire aircraft.  Ask me how I learned all about THAT.  That's the big green thing with all those metal lines attached in the photo.  Just looking at that monster makes me cringe.  

  

 Second, the tach generator cannon plug.  Most problems with incorrect reading tach's is because of a broken wire in this plug.  They break VERY easily.  The wire is brittle and the solder flux the Russians use corrodes much easier than does our stuff.  

  

 Lastly, these three wires in the tach gen plug are shielded.  If the shield wire to this plug breaks, or if the shield is not connected properly, the noise from the tach generator can become so extreme that it will actually damage a stock Russian radio.  Hard to believe, but I saw it happen with my own eyes.  I also fixed the radio.  The first stage broad band amplifier transistor shorted base to collector.  Now THAT is serious noise!  

  

 Just thought I would pass along lessons regarding this little device that I had to learn about the hard way.  

  

 Mark Bitterlich

 

 

 

   From: Eddie Moran <eddiemoranii(at)yahoo.com>

To: m14pengines-list(at)matronics.com

Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 4:45:06 PM

Subject: Re: Tack generator



    To all,



I tell you what, guys like Dennis, Steve, George, Doug, etc. are an invaluable asset to us.  I could NOT have installed my M14 into my Moose without them.



If you have not contributed to Matronics then you need too.



Eddie



--- On Tue, 12/30/08, A. Dennis Savarese <dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net> wrote:

 [quote]From: A. Dennis Savarese <dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net>

Subject: Re: Tack generator

To: m14pengines-list(at)matronics.com

Date: Tuesday, December 30, 2008, 9:16 AM



    See attached.

 Dennis

  

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cattoni(at)glastar.ca
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Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 6:16 pm Post subject: Tack generator

Hi  Mark,

 We are  building a Moose. In Kelowna BC Canada. As soon as we get the engine mount from  Murphy, we will hang the engine. I would like to ask you for your private e-mail  address, so that I could contact you off list.

  

 Thank you so  much !

  

 Peter  Cattoni

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Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 6:18 pm Post subject: Tack generator

Thank you  Eddie.

  

 We are just  getting to that stage ( engine installation M14PF ) ! Your post is very helpful  to us, because we know now whom to ask.

  

 Happy New  Year to all !

  

 Regards,

 Peter  Cattoni

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george(at)gesoco.com
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Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 5:35 am Post subject: Tack generator

We at Motorstar NA have a FREE disc with the maintenance manuals,  the  service manuals and a lot of instillation information. We expect  to also have all the data up on our new Motorstar NA web site for download or  reference. If you need a disc then contact me offline and we will send  one. 

  

 George Coy

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 714 Airport  Rd.

 Swanton VT 05488

 802-868-5633 off

 802-363-5782 cell

 george.coy(at)gmail.com (george.coy(at)gmail.com)

 SKYPE george.coy

  



   From:  owner-m14pengines-list-server(at)matronics.com  [mailto:owner-m14pengines-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Yak  Pilot

Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 7:27 PM

To:  m14pengines-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: Re: Tack  generator

 

  Just a word of caution.  If the original thread on mount for the tach  generator is still there, no problem.  It's easy to install.  If the  outer plate had been removed, be very cautious.  If you remove the wrong  plate at that tach gen attachment point, you can disturb the air start  distributor timing which is one of the worst things to get working again on the  entire aircraft.  Ask me how I learned all about THAT.  That's the big  green thing with all those metal lines attached in the photo.  Just looking  at that monster makes me cringe.  

  

 Second, the tach generator cannon plug.  Most problems with incorrect  reading tach's is because of a broken wire in this plug.  They break VERY  easily.  The wire is brittle and the solder flux the Russians use corrodes  much easier than does our stuff.  

  

 Lastly, these three wires in the tach gen plug are shielded.  If the  shield wire to this plug breaks, or if the shield is not connected properly, the  noise from the tach generator can become so extreme that it will actually damage  a stock Russian radio.  Hard to believe, but I saw it happen with my own  eyes.  I also fixed the radio.  The first stage broad band amplifier  transistor shorted base to collector.  Now THAT is serious noise!   

  

 Just thought I would pass along lessons regarding this little device that I  had to learn about the hard way.  

  

 Mark Bitterlich

 

 

 

   From: Eddie Moran  <eddiemoranii(at)yahoo.com>

To:  m14pengines-list(at)matronics.com

Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 4:45:06  PM

Subject: Re:  Tack generator



            To all,



I tell you what, guys like Dennis, Steve,        George, Doug, etc. are an invaluable asset to us.  I could NOT have        installed my M14 into my Moose without them.



If you have not        contributed to Matronics then you need        too.



Eddie



--- On Tue, 12/30/08, A. Dennis        Savarese        <dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net> wrote:

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		  From:          A. Dennis Savarese <dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net>

Subject: Re:          Tack generator

To:          m14pengines-list(at)matronics.com

Date: Tuesday, December 30, 2008, 9:16          AM



                            See attached.

         Dennis

          

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           Sent:            Monday, December 29, 2008 7:28 PM

           Subject:            Tack generator

           



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I             have just bought a tack generator, for the M14 but cannot find out            where it goes, must be another adapter or something, any one have a            pic, also  where is a good place  to mount the water            separator.  



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Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 5:44 pm Post subject: Tack generator

Have fun....  The Doug I mentioned was Doug Sapp of Omak, Wa.  The other Doug is Doug Franklin who used to work for Murphy Aircraft and has installed about 15 M14s in various aircraft.



Doug Sapp has a great air system if you have not already gone down that road.



Eddie Moran



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[quote]From: Peter Cattoni <cattoni(at)glastar.ca>

Subject: RE: Tack generator

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Date: Tuesday, December 30, 2008, 9:18 PM



    Message  Thank you  Eddie.

  

 We are just  getting to that stage ( engine installation M14PF ) ! Your post is very helpful  to us, because we know now whom to ask.

  

 Happy New  Year to all !

  

 Regards,

 Peter  Cattoni

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