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Fox5flyer
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Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 10:28 am Post subject: Tool Kit

I'm in the process of making up a tool kit to keep  in the airplane.  Since my S5 is already too heavy, I want the kit to be as  complete as I can make it yet keep it compact and light.  I know, that's  just like building airplanes, a contradiction in terms.

 Obviously it doesn't need to be complete enough to  make a crankshaft change or a valve job, but I would like it to be complete  enough for making simple repairs/checks on the ramp or to get out of trouble at  some remote place.  I'll start out first with what I've put together and  hopefully some of you folks out there who have already done this will chime in  here.  Feel free to add, comment, or laugh at my choices because that's how  we can all benefit from this.

  

     8" vice grips

     Combination screwdriver -- the  type that has a hollow handle with several different bits or something  similar

     Duct Tape

     1/4" drive socket set,  compact

     Duct tape

     8" crescent type  wrench

     Small roll of safety  wire

     Set of open end wrenches or  something that would serve the purpose

     Small canvas type bag to hold  everything.

     

 I can think of many more items I could throw in  there, but I'm trying avoid unnecessary items to keep the weight down.  Of  course, it's those unnecessary items that I would probably need.  Any help  or advice would be humbly appreciated, my friends.

  

 Deke Morisse

Mikado Michigan

S5/Subaru/CAP  402+ TT

"The aim of an argument or discussion should not be victory, but  progress."

- Joseph Joubert

  

 

 

     

  

     

  

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skyflyte(at)comcast.net
Guest

Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 1:28 pm Post subject: Tool Kit

A few more items in my kit are: 

   tywraps of various sizes 

   exhaust system springs 

   carb boots (I've got a 582) 

   multi-tool like a Leatherman 

   a credit card 

   and you can never have too much duct tape! 

  

Mike 

490MC

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Fox5flyer
Guest

Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 2:07 pm Post subject: Tool Kit

Good one.  I like the tie wraps and  leatherman.

 Thanks.

  

 Keep 'em coming folks.  Maybe we can come up  with the ideal tool kit.

 Deke

  

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7suds(at)Chartermi.net
Guest

Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 2:48 pm Post subject: Tool Kit

All,  

Havenâ€™t read the whole thread, so maybe already said, but in my Model 4 also carried a set of Titanium tie downs and tie down rope & spark plugs, my 4 also had a 503 in it so it required a jet change once a year to accommodate the hot summer temps so I also carried the spare jets and tooling required to change.  

   

Lloyd Cudnohufsky  

Model 5 912ul  

IVO IFA  

Northern Mi.  

       

From: owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of fox5flyer

 Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2009 5:07 PM

 To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com

 Subject: Re: Tool Kit  

  

  

     

Good one.  I like the tie wraps and leatherman.  

    

Thanks.  

    

   

    

Keep 'em coming folks.  Maybe we can come up with the ideal tool kit.  

    

Deke  

    

   

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From: skyflyte(at)comcast.net (skyflyte(at)comcast.net)   

    

To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com (kitfox-list(at)matronics.com)   

    

Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2009 5:27 PM  

    

Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Tool Kit  

    

   

    

A few more items in my kit are:  

   tywraps of various sizes  

   exhaust system springs  

   carb boots (I've got a 582)  

   multi-tool like a Leatherman  

   a credit card  

   and you can never have too much duct tape!  

   

Mike  

490MC

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patreilly43(at)hotmail.co
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Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 3:07 pm Post subject: Tool Kit

Lloyd C Where did you get Titanium tie downs? I ordered a set of tie downs from someplace on sale and I am disappointed that they weigh so damn much. I can't remember but C I thought the ones I gordered were touted as "light weight".

  

 Pat Reilly

 Mod 3 582 Rebuild

 Rockford C IL

 

  From: 7suds(at)Chartermi.net

To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: RE: Tool Kit

Date: Sun C 19 Apr 2009 17:48:16 -0500



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All C 

Haven’t read the whole thread C so maybe already said C but in my Model 4 also carried a set of Titanium tie downs and tie down rope & spark plugs C my 4 also had a 503 in it so it required a jet change once a year to accommodate the hot summer temps so I also carried the spare jets and tooling required to change. 

  

Lloyd Cudnohufsky 

Model 5 912ul 

IVO IFA 

Northern Mi. 

    

From: owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of fox5flyer

Sent: Sunday C April 19 C 2009 5:07 PM

To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: Re: Tool Kit



 

   

Good one.  I like the tie wraps and leatherman.

  

Thanks.

  

 

  

Keep 'em coming folks.  Maybe we can come up with the ideal tool kit.

  

Deke

  

 

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Lynn Matteson

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 2778
Location: Grass Lake, Michigan

Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 3:39 pm Post subject: Tool Kit

I usually take along the tools that I use for hourly/daily/weekly  

repair or maintenance. You wouldn't have to take a complete socket  

set if some of the sizes are never used. There are several allen  

wrenches used on the Jabiru, and on some locations where I used  

socket head cap screws on my plane. In short, I go around the plane  

and make sure I have wrenches,  flat screwdrivers, phillips, allens,  

etc., to fit everything, then fluff out the tools with enough stuff  

to make emergency repairs. Probably he most important tool is a  

freshlycharged cell phone. As proven in last fall's wheatfield  

landing, the cell phone was nearly dead, but people were close  

enough, and nice enough to take me to a Wal-Mart where I bought a  

battery charger for the phone, and made the necessary calls. Now  

there is a phone charger IN the plane and it stays there.....Boy  

Scout training 101..."Be Prepared"



Lynn Matteson

Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger

Jabiru 2200, #2062, 632.8 hrs

Sensenich 62x46

Electroair direct-fire ignition system

Status: flying





On Apr 19, 2009, at 6:06 PM, fox5flyer wrote:



[quote] Good one.  I like the tie wraps and leatherman.

 Thanks.



 Keep 'em coming folks.  Maybe we can come up with the ideal tool kit.

 Deke



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Lynn
Kitfox IV-Jabiru 2200
N369LM

Paul A. Franz, P.E.

Joined: 02 Dec 2008
Posts: 280
Location: Bellevue WA

Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 4:17 pm Post subject: Tool Kit

On Sun, April 19, 2009 11:26 am, fox5flyer wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   I'm in the process of making up a tool kit to keep in the airplane.  Since my S5 is

 already too heavy, I want the kit to be as complete as I can make it yet keep it

 compact and light.


	


OK. Fine tuning the list for weight would be a priority. I have the idea that almost

no repair would be done ever away from home as one would rely on assistance away from

home at any public place. Otherwise, you'd be discussing survival supplies too. So, my

best guess is going to be weighted toward risk items. You skipped electrical and that

is where you need some minimal tools.



 	  Quote: 	
		       8" vice grips - no, too heavy

Pair of pliers
	


Box cutter or other very small knife.

8' of 18 ga insulated wire.



 	  Quote: 	
		       Combination screwdriver -- the type that has a hollow handle with several - nix


	


All I've seen are crappy and not a weight saving. I'd get one phillips, and one wedge

blade screw driver. The wedge blade doubles as a pry tool



 	  Quote: 	
		       Duct Tape 1/4 roll or less in a sealed zip lock back to help keep the aging to a

minimum. Shrink seal would be even better.
	


 	  Quote: 	
		       1/4" drive socket set, compact - nix this. Too heavy.

     Duct tape - you already said that one. But it is important. You might have meant

WD-40 which is the other part of the two necessary tools. If it moves and
	


shouldn't, use duct tape. If it doesn't move and should, WD-40. Plus WD-40 can

do other cool things like instant fill of a flat tire (I have a video if you

need to see how) and it can clean stuff.



 	  Quote: 	
		       8" crescent type wrench - nix this. Use a 6".

     Small roll of safety wire - maybe but only if you pack the clamptite tool.


	


 	  Quote: 	
		       Set of open end wrenches or something that would serve the purpose - not a set,

a couple of the most common is all you need. Like 10 mm or whatever you need for
	


fuel line clamps, exhaust, carb, stuff that loosens up now and then. Shouldn't

take a whole set of wrenches. I bet you can select 4 or max 5 that you can use

along with the 6" crescent.



Electrical continuity tester. One that can probe through the insulation in wires.



Two shop rags.



Small canvas type bag to hold everything - some other material would be better.

Cordura for example.

 	  Quote: 	
		  

 I can think of many more items I could throw in there, but I'm trying avoid

 unnecessary items to keep the weight down.  Of course, it's those unnecessary items

 that I would probably need.  Any help or advice would be humbly appreciated, my

 friends.


	


I would evaluate the need differently. I think you can do most stuff at home and only

need the bare minimum of anything away from home. Mostly stuff you know you would use

regularly and that's it. It seems to me that minor electrical problems are about the

only thing you'd ever need. Knife to cut stuff, electrical tester, pliers and tape

will allow you to do many things until you can get back to your shop. Maybe you need

to tighten up something that has gotten loose.

-- 

Paul A. Franz

Registration/Aircraft - N14UW/Merlin GT

Engine/Prop - Rotax 914/NSI CAP

Bellevue WA

425.241.1618 Cell



The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to

fill the world with fools.



-- Herbert Spencer, English Philosopher (1820-1903)



Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of

Congress. But then I repeat myself.



-- Mark Twain



"It is natural to man to indulge in the illusions of hope. We are

apt to shut our eyes against a painful truth -- and listen to the

song of that siren, till she transforms us into beasts."



--Patrick Henry



"Back in the thirties we were told we must collectivize the

nation because the people were so poor. Now we are told we must

collectivize the nation because the people are so rich."



-- National Review founder William F. Buckley Jr. (1925-2008)



"Economic conservatives have aggressively opposed President Obama's

agenda to radically expand government, financed by deficits that

run into the trillions. If social conservatives want to protect

America's families and social values, they must join with fiscal

conservatives to oppose President Obama and reverse America's

culture of debt. America was built on individual opportunity. This

is the core of the economic conservative agenda. The family unit is

the core building block of American society. This is the heart of

the social conservative agenda. There is a key overlap here that

many conservatives -- and even their leaders -- overlook. Living

within your means and managing your finances to avoid long-term

debt is part of building strong families, providing for your

children and teaching them to provide for themselves. ... Both

economic and social conservatives need to grasp the common ground

here. Strong families are essential to strong economies, and

financial management is a key family value."



-- columnist Ken Blackwell

_________________
Paul A. Franz, P.E.
Registration/Aircraft - N14UW/Merlin GT
Engine/Prop - Rotax 914/NSI CAP
Bellevue WA
425.241.1618 Cell
425.440.9505 Office

lcfitt(at)sbcglobal.net
Guest

Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 4:47 pm Post subject: Tool Kit

I like Lynn didn't take a complete socket set.  As I recall, some of the 

electrical terminals took an 11/32 socket, then sockets for the #3,4 and 5 

AN hardware.  Another thought, most of us have metric engines in english 

airframes.  Also included was a small ratcheting screwdriver (right angle), 

a sparkplug wrench and one of the disk shaped feeler gauges, and believe it 

or not the butane soldering iron I carried saved the day when a friend found 

a broken ignition wire during a trip up the Oregon Coast.  I felt all heroic 

when I told him I had one.  A lot of this stuff was to service my camera 

mount.  The open end wrenches were of the "stubby" variety to keep weight 

down.  As well as stuff already mentnioned, spare parts also included a 

spare fuel filter element, a tire pump and I carried but never used a CO2 

inflator unit.



For those with heavy engines requiring ballast, the tool box carried an a 

carefully chosen location can mitigate somewhat the need for CG ballast, but 

must be on the mandatory equipment list and not siphoned off from time to 

time to augment the hangar tools.



Lowell



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lcfitt(at)sbcglobal.net
Guest

Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 5:19 pm Post subject: Tool Kit

I agree with Paul.  One of the first things you need to think about is where 

you might need the stuff.  When we were flying the Idaho back country, there 

were times we were far from help, though being in a group help was not far 

away.  Cayuse Creek comes to mind.  It remains a private strip and lodge in 

the midst of a designated Wilderness Area.  Sometimes consideration should 

be given for survival gear.



I learned this from the guy that loaned me his hangar during my first flight 

series.  He went out one clear winter day for some sight seeing in a 

Taylorcraft.  When he got back he began kicking himself because as an Air 

Force pilot, he knew better (SR-71 and U-2 out of Beale AFB).  All he had 

with him as he overflew the snow covered Sierras east of Beal was a light 

jacket and jeans.



Lowell



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Joel

Joined: 06 Oct 2006
Posts: 57
Location: Bremerton, WA USA

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 7:34 am Post subject: Re: Tool Kit

Toss in a roll of Rescue Tape, the silicone based self adhering stuff.  It works extremely well for oil line and radiator hose repair.

_________________
Joel Mapes Kitfox 5 912 ULS Aerocomp amphibs

Fox5flyer
Guest

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 12:49 pm Post subject: Tool Kit

Good reply, Paul.  You make some good points.  Thanks.



8" vice grips too heavy...agreed, I'll go with 6".  It's a valuable tool 

that will do many things.

Pliers will be with the leatherman.

Box cutter...excellent!  I have one that is plastic and weighs little.

18g wire.  Good idea!

I have a combo screwdriver that is a good one.

1/4 socket set... not sure about that one.  I'll think about it.

I know how to use wd40 to fill a tire.  Done it several times, but won't 

work unless the bead is open.

Swap 8" crescent for a 6"... good idea.

Continuity tester... again, good idea

Canvas--Cordura, doesn't matter.  Either one, but Cordura might be a little 

lighter.



Deke Morisse

Mikado Michigan

S5/Subaru/CAP 402+ TT

"The aim of an argument or discussion should not be victory, but progress."

- Joseph Joubert

 	  Quote: 	
		  

 OK. Fine tuning the list for weight would be a priority. I have the idea 

 that almost

 no repair would be done ever away from home as one would rely on 

 assistance away from

 home at any public place. Otherwise, you'd be discussing survival supplies 

 too. So, my

 best guess is going to be weighted toward risk items. You skipped 

 electrical and that

 is where you need some minimal tools.



>     8" vice grips - no, too heavy

 Pair of pliers

 Box cutter or other very small knife.

 8' of 18 ga insulated wire.



>     Combination screwdriver -- the type that has a hollow handle with 

> several - nix



 All I've seen are crappy and not a weight saving. I'd get one phillips, 

 and one wedge

 blade screw driver. The wedge blade doubles as a pry tool



>     Duct Tape 1/4 roll or less in a sealed zip lock back to help keep the 

> aging to a

 minimum. Shrink seal would be even better.

>     1/4" drive socket set, compact - nix this. Too heavy.

>     Duct tape - you already said that one. But it is important. You might 

> have meant

 WD-40 which is the other part of the two necessary tools. If it moves and

 shouldn't, use duct tape. If it doesn't move and should, WD-40. Plus WD-40 

 can

 do other cool things like instant fill of a flat tire (I have a video if 

 you

 need to see how) and it can clean stuff.



>     8" crescent type wrench - nix this. Use a 6".

>     Small roll of safety wire - maybe but only if you pack the clamptite 

> tool.



>     Set of open end wrenches or something that would serve the purpose - 

> not a set,

 a couple of the most common is all you need. Like 10 mm or whatever you 

 need for

 fuel line clamps, exhaust, carb, stuff that loosens up now and then. 

 Shouldn't

 take a whole set of wrenches. I bet you can select 4 or max 5 that you can 

 use

 along with the 6" crescent.



 Electrical continuity tester. One that can probe through the insulation in 

 wires.



 Two shop rags.



 Small canvas type bag to hold everything - some other material would be 

 better.

 Cordura for example.

>

> I can think of many more items I could throw in there, but I'm trying 

> avoid

> unnecessary items to keep the weight down.  Of course, it's those 

> unnecessary items

> that I would probably need.  Any help or advice would be humbly 

> appreciated, my

> friends.



 I would evaluate the need differently. I think you can do most stuff at 

 home and only

 need the bare minimum of anything away from home. Mostly stuff you know 

 you would use

 regularly and that's it. It seems to me that minor electrical problems are 

 about the

 only thing you'd ever need. Knife to cut stuff, electrical tester, pliers 

 and tape

 will allow you to do many things until you can get back to your shop. 

 Maybe you need

 to tighten up something that has gotten loose.

 -- 

 Paul A. Franz

 Registration/Aircraft - N14UW/Merlin GT

 Engine/Prop - Rotax 914/NSI CAP

 Bellevue WA

 425.241.1618 Cell



 The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to

 fill the world with fools.



 -- Herbert Spencer, English Philosopher (1820-1903)



 Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of

 Congress. But then I repeat myself.



 -- Mark Twain



 "It is natural to man to indulge in the illusions of hope. We are

 apt to shut our eyes against a painful truth -- and listen to the

 song of that siren, till she transforms us into beasts."



 --Patrick Henry



 "Back in the thirties we were told we must collectivize the

 nation because the people were so poor. Now we are told we must

 collectivize the nation because the people are so rich."



 -- National Review founder William F. Buckley Jr. (1925-2008)



 "Economic conservatives have aggressively opposed President Obama's

 agenda to radically expand government, financed by deficits that

 run into the trillions. If social conservatives want to protect

 America's families and social values, they must join with fiscal

 conservatives to oppose President Obama and reverse America's

 culture of debt. America was built on individual opportunity. This

 is the core of the economic conservative agenda. The family unit is

 the core building block of American society. This is the heart of

 the social conservative agenda. There is a key overlap here that

 many conservatives -- and even their leaders -- overlook. Living

 within your means and managing your finances to avoid long-term

 debt is part of building strong families, providing for your

 children and teaching them to provide for themselves. ... Both

 economic and social conservatives need to grasp the common ground

 here. Strong families are essential to strong economies, and

 financial management is a key family value."



 -- columnist Ken Blackwell

Fox5flyer
Guest

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 12:52 pm Post subject: Tool Kit

Thanks Lowell.  Hadn't thought about a plug wrench.  That might be a good 

one if I can find a light weight and compact version.

As for using the tool bag for ballast, I recall someone who needed weight in 

the tail used one on his S5.  Rigged up some velcro bands and strapped it 

down inside over the tailwheel.

Deke



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Fox5flyer
Guest

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 12:53 pm Post subject: Tool Kit

Thanks, Lynn.  Good advice.  

Deke

do not archive



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Fox5flyer
Guest

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 1:03 pm Post subject: Tool Kit

Got it, thanks.

Deke

do not archive



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7suds(at)Chartermi.net
Guest

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 1:22 pm Post subject: Tool Kit

Pat,  

A friend of mine located them a few years back and we ordered 2 sets. They are like a cork screw dog tie down but of all titanium with a short titanium cheater bar included. They were $60 for the set back then. I will try to find his website and post.  

Lloyd   

       

From: owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of patrick reilly

 Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2009 6:07 PM

 To: kitfox matronics

 Subject: RE: Tool Kit  

  

  

   

Lloyd, Where did you get Titanium tie downs? I ordered a set of tie downs from someplace on sale and I am disappointed that they weigh so damn much. I can't remember but, I thought the ones I gordered were touted as "light weight".

  

 Pat Reilly

 Mod 3 582 Rebuild

 Rockford, IL

        

  

From: 7suds(at)Chartermi.net

 To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com

 Subject: RE: Tool Kit

 Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 17:48:16 -0500    

All,  

Haven’t read the whole thread, so maybe already said, but in my Model 4 also carried a set of Titanium tie downs and tie down rope & spark plugs, my 4 also had a 503 in it so it required a jet change once a year to accommodate the hot summer temps so I also carried the spare jets and tooling required to change.  

   

Lloyd Cudnohufsky  

Model 5 912ul  

IVO IFA  

Northern Mi.  

       

From: owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of fox5flyer

 Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2009 5:07 PM

 To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com

 Subject: Re: Tool Kit  

  

  

     

Good one.  I like the tie wraps and leatherman.  

    

Thanks.  

    

   

    

Keep 'em coming folks.  Maybe we can come up with the ideal tool kit.  

    

Deke  

    

   

  [quote]    

----- Original Message -----   

    

From: skyflyte(at)comcast.net (skyflyte(at)comcast.net)   

    

To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com (kitfox-list(at)matronics.com)   

    

Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2009 5:27 PM  

    

Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Tool Kit  

    

   

    

A few more items in my kit are:

    tywraps of various sizes

    exhaust system springs

    carb boots (I've got a 582)

    multi-tool like a Leatherman

    a credit card

    and you can never have too much duct tape!

  

 Mike  

490MC

 ---

patreilly43(at)hotmail.co
Guest

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 2:09 pm Post subject: Tool Kit

Lloyd C Thanks. Mine are the same design. But C they are made of steel and weigh a proverbial ton.

 do not archive

 Pat

 

  From: 7suds(at)Chartermi.net

To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: RE: Tool Kit

Date: Mon C 20 Apr 2009 16:22:05 -0500



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Pat C 

A friend of mine located them a few years back and we ordered 2 sets. They are like a cork screw dog tie down but of all titanium with a short titanium cheater bar included. They were $60 for the set back then. I will try to find his website and post. 

Lloyd  

    

From: owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of patrick reilly

Sent: Sunday C April 19 C 2009 6:07 PM

To: kitfox matronics

Subject: RE: Tool Kit



 

  

Lloyd C Where did you get Titanium tie downs? I ordered a set of tie downs from someplace on sale and I am disappointed that they weigh so damn much. I can't remember but C I thought the ones I gordered were touted as "light weight".

 

Pat Reilly

Mod 3 582 Rebuild

Rockford C IL

    

 

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Subject: RE: Tool Kit

Date: Sun C 19 Apr 2009 17:48:16 -0500  

All C 

Haven’t read the whole thread C so maybe already said C but in my Model 4 also carried a set of Titanium tie downs and tie down rope & spark plugs C my 4 also had a 503 in it so it required a jet change once a year to accommodate the hot summer temps so I also carried the spare jets and tooling required to change. 

  

Lloyd Cudnohufsky 

Model 5 912ul 

IVO IFA 

Northern Mi. 

    

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Good one.  I like the tie wraps and leatherman.

  

Thanks.

  

 

  

Keep 'em coming folks.  Maybe we can come up with the ideal tool kit.

  

Deke

  

 

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Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 2:23 pm Post subject: Tool Kit

Generally speaking I never have vice grips in my tool box (not) but I sure know where to get them! J  One size fits all, metric included.  

   

Depending on how light you want to go you could possibly get away with a roll of electrical tape, a good bicycle wrench (SAE) and a good multi tool on your belt.  For temporary cloth repairs use elastoplast from you first aid kit.  The only other thing I can think of is a simple plug wrench.  

   

Noel  

       

From: owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of fox5flyer

 Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2009 3:57 PM

 To: Kitfox List

 Subject: Tool Kit  

  

  

     

I'm in the process of making up a tool kit to keep in the airplane.  Since my S5 is already too heavy, I want the kit to be as complete as I can make it yet keep it compact and light.  I know, that's just like building airplanes, a contradiction in terms.  

    

Obviously it doesn't need to be complete enough to make a crankshaft change or a valve job, but I would like it to be complete enough for making simple repairs/checks on the ramp or to get out of trouble at some remote place.  I'll start out first with what I've put together and hopefully some of you folks out there who have already done this will chime in here.  Feel free to add, comment, or laugh at my choices because that's how we can all benefit from this.  

    

   

    

    8" vice grips  

    

    Combination screwdriver -- the type that has a hollow handle with several different bits or something similar  

    

    Duct Tape  

    

    1/4" drive socket set, compact  

    

    Duct tape  

    

    8" crescent type wrench  

    

    Small roll of safety wire  

    

    Set of open end wrenches or something that would serve the purpose  

    

    Small canvas type bag to hold everything.  

    

      

    

I can think of many more items I could throw in there, but I'm trying avoid unnecessary items to keep the weight down.  Of course, it's those unnecessary items that I would probably need.  Any help or advice would be humbly appreciated, my friends.  

    

   

    

Deke Morisse

 Mikado Michigan

 S5/Subaru/CAP 402+ TT

 "The aim of an argument or discussion should not be victory, but progress."

 - Joseph Joubert  

    

   

    



    

    

      

    

   

    

      

    

   

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Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 2:52 pm Post subject: Tool Kit

The cell phone tool beats any amount of duct tape...  even for Red Green for

those of you who know him.



Noel



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Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 4:19 am Post subject: Tool Kit

I've gone through my tool kit list, added a few things and thrown out a few  others.  The ones labeled optional may or may not be added.  I need to  start looking around for a tool bag.  Maybe Home Depot.  Most of the  other things I already have on hand. 

If anyone has any comments, pro or con, don't hesitate to post them.   There was one time when I wish I would have had this tool kit and I suspect that  there will be another time one day and I want to be prepared, whether for me or  to help out someone I'm flying with. 

Deke 

  

Some sort of combination screwdriver 

Light weight box cutter 

Duct tape, small roll. Could be also be wrapped around box cutter or screw  driver. 

Silicone Rescue Tape...optional 

1/4" compact socket set – optional 

Small wire cutters -- optional 

6" crescent type wrench 

6" vice grips or equivalent 

8 feet 18g insulated wire 

Small roll safety wire .032 

Tie wraps of various sizes  

Leatherman or equivalent 

Continuity tester 

Spark plug wrench 

Extra spark plugs 

Canvas or Cordura type bag.

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Paul A. Franz, P.E.

Joined: 02 Dec 2008
Posts: 280
Location: Bellevue WA

Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 6:12 am Post subject: Tool Kit

On Tue, April 21, 2009 5:18 am, fox5flyer wrote:

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		   I've gone through my tool kit list, added a few things and thrown out a few others.

 The ones labeled optional may or may not be added.  I need to start looking around for

 a tool bag.  Maybe Home Depot.  Most of the other things I already have on hand.



 If anyone has any comments, pro or con, don't hesitate to post them.  There was one

 time when I wish I would have had this tool kit and I suspect that there will be

 another time one day and I want to be prepared, whether for me or to help out someone

 I'm flying with.



 Deke


	


Been discussed but your new list left off.



2 shop rags

smallest available (4 oz?) can of WD-40

your small clamptite for that safety wire



Watch for unnecessary duplicity. Your Leatherman might have the wire cutter function

and part of the screw driver collection. Since you are committed to using a bag for

tools, I don't see the need for an overpriced Leatherman. Select just the tools you

need. I'm not too fond of combination screwdrivers either. I think you can make do

with a single phillips and a wedge blade. The wedge blade doubles as a pry bar which I

find to be needed frequently. I would be easily dissuaded on this if you have torx,

squares, allen and others on your plane. I have a screwdriver made by Stanley I got at

Wal-Mart with a set of bits that included all the torx, phillips, allen, square tip

and wedge tip bits I need in a little hard plastic snap holder. You don't have to dump

all the bits out in a pile and sort through it until you find the one you want. You

you can see each tip. The driver is actually 1/4" drive with a coupler for the bits.

The shop rags are probably the most often used items. Any oil spill you don't want

streaking the length of your plane, cleaning a giant squashed bug off the windshield

you got taxiing right at dusk or that nasty glob of grease you picked up near a fuel

island on a tire or anything you need to wipe to see if you have stopped a leak.



Make sure you have what it takes to charge your cell phone from your plane's

electrical system too. Cell phone is especially good for solving those nagging

'miscellaneous' repair problems. The ones that give you a headache unless you can fix

them at home.



You really think extra spark plugs are necessary for a 4 stroke engine? I don't.



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		   Some sort of combination screwdriver



 Light weight box cutter



 Duct tape, small roll. Could be also be wrapped around box cutter or screw driver.



 Silicone Rescue Tape...optional



 1/4" compact socket set - optional



 Small wire cutters -- optional



 6" crescent type wrench



 6" vice grips or equivalent



 8 feet 18g insulated wire



 Small roll safety wire .032



 Tie wraps of various sizes



 Leatherman or equivalent



 Continuity tester



 Spark plug wrench



 Extra spark plugs



 Canvas or Cordura type bag.

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Engine/Prop - Rotax 914/NSI CAP

Bellevue WA

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