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PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2006 2:12 pm    Post subject: 601 XL Autopilot? Reply with quote


I have flown in another plane that had an autopilot, and recognize the usefullness it would provide on long cross-country trips. I am considering installing one in my 601 XL, and wonder if anyone else has done so. What sort of trouble they had, and what equipment they installed. I would like to have both altitude and horizontal control. I now use a Garmin handheld 295 GPS, and wonder if that can be used to drive the autopilot from the current route being flown. Do any of them allow this?


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2006 2:27 pm    Post subject: 601 XL Autopilot? Reply with quote


The Truetrack line of A/P can be driven from virtually any handheld
GPS..AS long as there is an output.
If you have a pictorial pilot this will give you a stabilised turn
coordinator display as well.
A single axis will cost $1500 to $1900 and the second axis (altitude
hold) will cost about $1500
They also do a combined two axis control but I think this is a little
more money.
I have an HDS and if I was keeping the airplane I would install a single
axis trutrack in a heartbeat.
Frank
HDS 387 hours
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2006 4:17 pm    Post subject: 601 XL Autopilot? Reply with quote


The other option I would look at, though I have no experience with either is
the Trio Avionics unit. It runs less than $1800 with the servo, which seems
to
be in the ball park price wise.
I have a lot more research to do before making a decision, but I think the
Tru-Track and the EZ-pilot are the two most reasonably priced and simple.
I like the emergency course reversal (automatic 180 turn feature) on the
EZ pilot.
http://www.trioavionics.com/
Allen Ricks
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The Truetrack line of A/P can be driven from virtually any handheld
GPS..AS long as there is an output.
I have flown in another plane that had an autopilot, and recognize the
usefullness it would provide on long cross-country trips. I am
considering installing one in my 601 XL, and wonder if anyone else has
done so. What sort of trouble they had, and what equipment they
installed. I would like to have both altitude and horizontal control.
I now use a Garmin handheld 295 GPS, and wonder if that can be used to
drive the autopilot from the current route being flown. Do any of them
allow this?
Don
601 XL, tail done, working on wings
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2006 6:27 pm    Post subject: 601 XL Autopilot? Reply with quote


Hi Don;
I have the Trio AP & altitude hold in my CH-601HDS that is coupled to
the Garmin 295. They work very well. It is a very light system ,easy to
install and setup.
Mike
CH-601HDS 1200+ hours
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2006 6:02 am    Post subject: 601 XL Autopilot? Reply with quote


Thanks very much Mike. Thats what I wanted to hear. Does any of the unit get installed in the wings before the top skin is riveted on? Or is all of the unit, servos and stuff built into the airframe? At what point of construction should I be buying the unit? I have the tail all done, and I am now working on the wings, getting ready to put the top skins on them. I have not started the airframe yet. What drives the altitude control unit? I am planning to use the Dynon EFIS also.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2006 7:10 am    Post subject: 601 XL Autopilot? Reply with quote


Don,
I have installed the Trio roll and pitch servos in my 601, and they are
placed just behind the torque tube and to the pilot side of the fuselage
(roll) and just aft of the stiffener 6B1-7 (pitch). I will send you some
photos if you contact me off list. You can buy the servos separately - I
installed mine a few weeks ago, and I am 99% done with the project. One
thing, I split the baggage floor 6B16 -1 into front and rear halves to allow
me access for inspection a servicing of the servos/controls.
Pat S.
601XL Jabiru 3300
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2006 9:12 am    Post subject: 601 XL Autopilot? Reply with quote


Hi Don;
There is nothing in the wings. Other than the control heads the servos
go behind the seats.
I noticed that one of the other replies mentioned the 180 degree turn
around (escape manouver). It does work.
Regards
Mike
CH-601HDS
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2006 10:02 pm    Post subject: 601 XL Autopilot? Reply with quote


We have the Navaid Devices ,Inc. Autopilot in our 701,


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 07, 2006 3:54 am    Post subject: 601 XL Autopilot? Reply with quote


Thanks for the link Gary. Very interesting.
Jean-Paul


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 07, 2006 6:03 am    Post subject: 601 XL Autopilot? Reply with quote


Gary,
NAPA has a complete line of sending units in their catalogs.
You need to know the resistance range your gauge operates on (I think they
list 3 ranges), the tank depth, and the orientation of the float (left or
right) with the widest spaced mounting holes toward you. If you local store
has the overnight delivery setup, you could have it by Tuesday. I doubt it
would be in stock.
Lynn
Corry, PA


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 11:53 am    Post subject: 601 XL Autopilot? Reply with quote


Tony, do you have any photos of the servos mounted in your plane? I'm thinking I'll go with the Trio and would like to see the installation.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 12:47 pm    Post subject: 601 XL Autopilot? Reply with quote


Somebody (possibly Tony) sent me some pictures of servos in a 601 but now I
can't find them. They may have been for a different AP but that doesn't
matter because the servos of the different manufactures are roughly laid out
the same. If any one has pictures e-mail them to me and I'll put then in the
photo archive.
-- Craig


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