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Tim(at)MyRV10.com
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Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2006 4:53 pm Post subject: O2 systems - Was: S&F - Tim's -10

Well, it looks like the O2 system information for -10's will be

as broad as the number of O2 system vendors.  I picked up a

portable system today.

At present, I know that Dan has Mountain High's system (I'm

assuming a portable, right Dan?), and Randy has Mountain

High's high-end pulse system.

Jesse has Sky-Ox.

Russ Daves has Aerox, portable but semi-permanent mounted.

And I just bought the Precise Flight (Nelson) portable 4-place

system today.

I didn't know which way to go, so this a.m. and last night I

read a little on them online.  The mountain high stuff looks

very nice, but generally costs a little more I think.  One

other vendor (Aerox) told me that MH uses plastic fittings.

No big deal I guess.

The SkyOx system looked good too. At first I thought it might

be nice to have a single adjustment knob for all 4 places....then

I read and realized that each person may not want/need the same

amount, so there is a drawback, depending on your needs.  Otherwise

the system seemed fine.

The Aerox seemed pretty good too.  I almost went with it, and

was looking for things to nit-pick to help me decide between

Precise Flight and Aerox.  They use the same cannulas, and

offered much the same stuff.  The aerox uses needle valves on

the regulator.  I thought maybe that depending on what bangs

into it, it might not be as durable as an inline meter.  Also,

it means the guy running the system will need to be very close

to that valve.

In the end, The Aerox was just a few bucks more, if I bought

their carry case, and they only included 4 cannulas, meters,

and one mask.

 From Precise Flight, I got 4 cannulas, 4 meters, 4 masks, (1

cannula and mask was kids sized), and the carrying case, with

an M Bottle.  The aerox was something like $631+59 for the case.

The Precise Flight was $675 for the whole thing.  The only thing

I may want to add later is the demand units that can be attached

inline to conserve O2, which would run maybe $375-450 (ea)

depending on special pricing if bought during the show.  I'll

have to see how much use the system gets between now and OSH.

The Aerox does have a better warranty...the P.F. is 2 years.

I did download and read the Aviation Consumer article on the

various O2 systems before buying.  In general, their main

complaint about some of the others was the case, mounting,

or individual adjustments.  They chose the Precise Flight,

and I trusted that it would be a reasonable choice.  I don't

really think it's a drastic difference between any of them,

so everyone will probably be generally happy with what they

have.  I hope I get enough use out of mine.

Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying

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Dan Masys wrote:

 	  Quote: 	

> From: Tim Olson <Tim(at)MyRV10.com> Date: 2006/04/07 Fri PM 09:33:36

> EDT

> Anyone have any advice on who's el'cheapo portable O2 system is the

> best bet?  That's about the only big thing I'm shopping for.

 I have a Mountain High O2 tank mounted in my -7 and have found their

 systems to be well designed, with lots of different options.  Plus,

 at every fly-in where they set up a booth, they will refill your O2

 tank for free.  It's one of the reasons I go to OSH every year .

 -Dan Masys

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jesse(at)itecusa.org
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Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 3:01 pm Post subject: O2 systems - Was: S&F - Tim's -10

Tim,



As far as getting use out of the system, that will mainly depend on whether

you are in a hurry or would rather save a few (or a lot of) bucks on gas.

What have your fuel burns been running at different altitudes and different

true airspeeds?  My dad just made a flight from X35 to Grand Rapids non-stop

in around 6 hours, which should be a little over 1,000sm.  You have to go

high to do that, but if you can make it non-stop, you will both save money

and time going high.



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Jesse Saint

I-TEC, Inc.

jesse(at)itecusa.org

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I'm in Ecuador right now and should be back in the country by the end of

May.  You may call me at 352-505-1899 and leave a message that I can check

from down here.  Any I-TEC questions can be directed to the I-TEC office at

352-465-4545.

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Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 5:29 pm Post subject: O2 systems - Was: S&F - Tim's -10

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		   From: Tim Olson <Tim(at)MyRV10.com>

 Date: 2006/04/08 Sat PM 08:52:46 EDT

 To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

 Subject: O2 systems - Was:  S&F  -  Tim's -10

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		   At present, I know that Dan has Mountain High's system (I'm

 assuming a portable, right Dan?), 

Mine's sort of semi-portable.  I have mounting brackets attached to the center tower in the -7 where the flap motor is housed, and the tank stays clamped in there.  O2 lines are also fixed with guides and zipties.  

I got the self-fill valve and use welder's O2 from a medium and large tank (step filling) so keeping the O2 available is just a few cents a flight.  And since the -7 is happy cruising up in the teen's (still climbs at 500 fpm best rate at 18,000 ft), and you never know when you might have to outclimb some weather, it is a nice option to have.

Used to have SkyOx and it was fine, too.  They're all fine .

-Dan Masys

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Tim(at)MyRV10.com
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Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 6:13 pm Post subject: O2 systems - Was: S&F - Tim's -10

Some day I'd like to make mine semi-portable too.  I think that

would make it real convenient.  Russ Daves did that with his too.

I used to have a dive shop and be in the SCUBA biz, doing lots

of technical and deep dives requiring various helium/oxygen/air

mixes.  Had something like 26 cylinders in the 250-400 cf range.

I still own maybe 6 of them...with a couple dedicated to He,

a couple to air, and a couple to O2, so I should be able to

do the same as you and do my own fills.  I know I can get

probably 300cf for about $20 locally, and I know for a fact

that their medical, aviation, and welding O2 all comes off the

same tap on the system...I've been in their back room.

That should help lower the ongoing costs of O2, except for

fills when away from home.

O2 in the cockpit will be a new thing for me though.

Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying

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Dan Masys wrote:

 	  Quote: 	

> From: Tim Olson <Tim(at)MyRV10.com> Date: 2006/04/08 Sat PM 08:52:46

> EDT To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com Subject: O2 systems - Was:

> S&F  -  Tim's -10

> At present, I know that Dan has Mountain High's system (I'm 

> assuming a portable, right Dan?),

 Mine's sort of semi-portable.  I have mounting brackets attached to

 the center tower in the -7 where the flap motor is housed, and the

 tank stays clamped in there.  O2 lines are also fixed with guides and

 zipties.

 I got the self-fill valve and use welder's O2 from a medium and large

 tank (step filling) so keeping the O2 available is just a few cents a

 flight.  And since the -7 is happy cruising up in the teen's (still

 climbs at 500 fpm best rate at 18,000 ft), and you never know when

 you might have to outclimb some weather, it is a nice option to have.

 Used to have SkyOx and it was fine, too.  They're all fine .

 -Dan Masys

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