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tdudley@umn.edu

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Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 2:40 pm Post subject: Tail Section Hinges

Worried about the tail hinges (and metal work in general), I looked for and found a privately-owned welding shop about ten miles from my home.  I showed one of the employees the plan for the tail section hinges.  He brought me into the shop and made a hinge from scratch in under 30 minutes while I watched (the final product would be a bit more fine-tuned).  He told me that he'd be able to build them for me if I wanted, but better yet, he told me he'd help me make all the pieces myself.  I'd pay him by the hour to help, but that included all the tools for cutting, bending, drilling, and TIG welding the pieces.  His estimate was really reasonable.



You've just got to love small shops in rural Minnesota.

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Ryan Mueller

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Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 2:55 pm Post subject: Tail Section Hinges

About $60 in a check to Vi Kapler, and no more worries on your part.



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On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 4:40 PM, tdudley(at)umn.edu (tdudley(at)umn.edu) <tdudley(at)umn.edu (tdudley(at)umn.edu)> wrote:

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 Worried about the tail hinges (and metal work in general), I looked for and found a privately-owned welding shop about ten miles from my home.  I showed one of the employees the plan for the tail section hinges.  He brought me into the shop and made a hinge from scratch in under 30 minutes while I watched (the final product would be a bit more fine-tuned).  He told me that he'd be able to build them for me if I wanted, but better yet, he told me he'd help me make all the pieces myself.  I'd pay him by the hour to help, but that included all the tools for cutting, bending, drilling, and TIG welding the pieces.  His estimate was really reasonable.

  

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tdudley@umn.edu

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Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 3:13 pm Post subject: Re: Tail Section Hinges

$60 is all Vi Kapler charges for the tail section hinges? What about the other metal parts? Contact #'s?

echobravo4

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Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 3:42 pm Post subject: Re: Tail Section Hinges

Here is is info-



Vitalis Kapler 

507-288-3322

1033 Forest Hills Dr. SW

Rochester, MN 55902



I ordered mine a couple of months ago and they were $70

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Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 4:06 pm Post subject: Tail Section Hinges

T



Just curious...is there a reason why you cannot do the fittings, or do not

want to? All it takes is band saw with a metal cutting blade and a gas

welding set up (well, and a few other items). I know welding sounds

daunting, but, believe me, it's one of the most rewarding parts of the whole

project!



Gary Boothe



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Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 4:23 pm Post subject: Re: Tail Section Hinges

Yep, got mine from Vi at Brodhead for $70. They are nice.  I agree that they would be easy to make, but his are ready to mount... all I had to do was router the recess and drill mounting holes.

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tdudley@umn.edu

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Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 4:28 pm Post subject: Re: Tail Section Hinges

Gary,



I do want to make the metal fittings; I want to do everything I can on this project.  After meeting with the guy this morning, I got the impression I'd be able to build the parts myself with his assistance.   That's the part that got me excited.



I'd guess that with a little early mentorship in the welding department, I'd gain the skills needed to get most of the other parts done.  I believe you when you say learning the skill is very rewarding.



Tom

tdudley@umn.edu

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Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 4:30 pm Post subject: Re: Tail Section Hinges

Mark,



Maybe in direct contrast to my last post, what was the turn around time to get the hinges?  Does Vi supply all metal parts?



Tom

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Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 4:44 pm Post subject: Re: Tail Section Hinges

In my experience, turn around was quick... as quick I could count out three 20s and a 10, we shook hands and I told him Thanks!  He had the hinges for sale at Brodhead.  



Give him a call.... maybe he has a set or two ready to ship.

tdudley@umn.edu

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Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 4:46 pm Post subject: Re: Tail Section Hinges

Mark,



I should have realized that before I posted--I did read you got it from him at Brodhead.



Tom

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Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 4:50 pm Post subject: Tail Section Hinges

Oh...and I purchased the VK hinges, despite what I just said! Happy building!



Gary

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tdudley@umn.edu

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Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 5:08 pm Post subject: Re: Tail Section Hinges

So Gary, you're saying it wouldn't be too much a compromise to buy the hinges?    Glad to hear it.   I just got off the phone with Mr. Kapler.  He said he could send them to me this week.  (I'll build the other metal parts!) 



Kind of interesting--Vi said he bought one of his Piets from Ed Sampson in Bellview, MN.  I spoke with Ed on the phone a few weeks ago and he said I could drive down to visit with him and talk building.  Ed apparently built the Piet fuse at the EAA museum.  Lots of Piet knowledge within easy driving distance.



Tom

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Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 5:25 pm Post subject: Tail Section Hinges

You're in good hands! See you at Brodhead?



Gary

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Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 6:12 pm Post subject: Tail Section Hinges

Another reason for buying the Vi Kapler hinges, even if you could make

them yourself, is that it is a tangible way to have a connection back to Mr

kevinpurtee

Joined: 04 Dec 2008
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Location: Austin/San Marcos, TX

Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 1:02 am Post subject: Re: Tail Section Hinges

There are still a WHOLE BUNCH of metal pieces to make even after you've paid Mr. Kappler for the hinges.  



Use the guy for mentorship/training on the other pieces, Tom.  Looks like a great resource.



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Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 8:44 am Post subject: Tail Section Hinges

Agreed, you will like the Kapler hinges.



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Ryan

 



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 Worried about the tail hinges (and metal work in general), I looked for and found a privately-owned welding shop about ten miles from my home.  I showed one of the employees the plan for the tail section hinges.  He brought me into the shop and made a hinge from scratch in under 30 minutes while I watched (the final product would be a bit more fine-tuned).  He told me that he'd be able to build them for me if I wanted, but better yet, he told me he'd help me make all the pieces myself.  I'd pay him by the hour to help, but that included all the tools for cutting, bending, drilling, and TIG welding the pieces.  His estimate was really reasonable.

   

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