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michael(at)sausen.net
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 10:23 am    Post subject: o-540 Reply with quote
… and they love to put in Lightspeed Ignitions. Or at least they loved mine. Smile

Michael

From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robin Marks
Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2013 12:32 PM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: RE: Re: o-540



Hard to go wrong with Barrett unless you don’t like to be pushed back in your seat when you advance the throttle. J.

Robin

From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of Tim Farrell
Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2013 9:42 AM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com (rv10-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: Re: Re: o-540

Since Performance Engines has been brought up in this thread . . . Many have had great experiences with them, but the Lancair community has had some pretty serious safety issues come up. I personally have no facts, so I will not judge, but my opinion is that it should be disclosed that past customers have brought to light some issues with Continental engines. Below is a snippet from the Lancair Yahoo group from 2010 and more info can be found on LML (Lancair Mailing List).

"There's been a lot of talk lately on other sites regarding the overhauled
engines delivered by Performance Engines of La Vern, CA. There have been
several total failures lately and a few others have had theirs torn down for
inspection only to find unserviceable or out of tolerance parts installed. In
one case, the engine case was cracked. This is causing many owners a lot of
money and putting their lives at risk. The FAA is currently paying very close
attention to PE."


On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 10:26 PM, Albert Gardner <ibspud(at)roadrunner.com (ibspud(at)roadrunner.com)> wrote:
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Performance Engines out of La Verne, CA built my IO-540. With 10:1 compression and 1 Lightspeed they rated it at 310 HP. With 799 hours on it I have put 8003 gallons of 100LL in, just about exactly 10 GPH average. (I’m not going to tell my wife how much 8K gallons of gas costs)
Albert Gardner
N991RV
Yuma, AZ

From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of Don McDonald
Sent: Monday, July 08, 2013 8:27 PM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com (rv10-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: Re: Re: o-540


Every RV'er that has ever gone with less hp or smaller displacement, always pays the price. They have to run a higher percentage of power just to keep up, and because of that they also end up burning more fuel. Also if you're carbeurated you have more difficulty running lean of peak, which also means you burn more fuel.
A friend of mine with a new Mattituck, carbed 540 has an avg cruise fuel burn between 11 and 12 gph.... whereas I burn between 9.6 and 10.2.... do the math, I now have over 500 hours, at a 1+ gph more fuel burn, that would cost you around $2,800 in additional fuel cost..... so over the life of the TBO, over $10,000!!!!!!!!
Don McDonald







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Rhonda(at)bpaengines.com
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 10:27 am    Post subject: o-540 Reply with quote
That’s it….you owe me a beer!

[b]Rhonda Barrett-Bewley[/b]
[i]Barrett Precision Engines[/i]
2870-B N. Sheridan Rd.
Tulsa, OK 74115
(918) 835-1089 phone
(918) 835-1754 fax
www.barrettprecisionengines.com


From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael Sausen
Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 1:23 PM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: RE: Re: o-540


… and they love to put in Lightspeed Ignitions. Or at least they loved mine. Smile

Michael

From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robin Marks
Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2013 12:32 PM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: RE: Re: o-540



Hard to go wrong with Barrett unless you don’t like to be pushed back in your seat when you advance the throttle. J.

Robin

From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of Tim Farrell
Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2013 9:42 AM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com (rv10-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: Re: Re: o-540

Since Performance Engines has been brought up in this thread . . . Many have had great experiences with them, but the Lancair community has had some pretty serious safety issues come up. I personally have no facts, so I will not judge, but my opinion is that it should be disclosed that past customers have brought to light some issues with Continental engines. Below is a snippet from the Lancair Yahoo group from 2010 and more info can be found on LML (Lancair Mailing List).

"There's been a lot of talk lately on other sites regarding the overhauled
engines delivered by Performance Engines of La Vern, CA. There have been
several total failures lately and a few others have had theirs torn down for
inspection only to find unserviceable or out of tolerance parts installed. In
one case, the engine case was cracked. This is causing many owners a lot of
money and putting their lives at risk. The FAA is currently paying very close
attention to PE."


On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 10:26 PM, Albert Gardner <ibspud(at)roadrunner.com (ibspud(at)roadrunner.com)> wrote:
Quote:

Performance Engines out of La Verne, CA built my IO-540. With 10:1 compression and 1 Lightspeed they rated it at 310 HP. With 799 hours on it I have put 8003 gallons of 100LL in, just about exactly 10 GPH average. (I’m not going to tell my wife how much 8K gallons of gas costs)
Albert Gardner
N991RV
Yuma, AZ

From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of Don McDonald
Sent: Monday, July 08, 2013 8:27 PM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com (rv10-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: Re: Re: o-540


Every RV'er that has ever gone with less hp or smaller displacement, always pays the price. They have to run a higher percentage of power just to keep up, and because of that they also end up burning more fuel. Also if you're carbeurated you have more difficulty running lean of peak, which also means you burn more fuel.
A friend of mine with a new Mattituck, carbed 540 has an avg cruise fuel burn between 11 and 12 gph.... whereas I burn between 9.6 and 10.2.... do the math, I now have over 500 hours, at a 1+ gph more fuel burn, that would cost you around $2,800 in additional fuel cost..... so over the life of the TBO, over $10,000!!!!!!!!
Don McDonald







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michael(at)sausen.net
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 10:28 am    Post subject: o-540 Reply with quote
Similar config to Robin and dyno’d on a 100+ degree day got me to 290 I believe.  As for what to do with the extra HP, it’s not about the top end.  I’ll take any HP I can get in high DA or out of a grass strip. The go lever ensures I don’t use it if I don’t need it.

Michael

From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robin Marks
Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 11:01 AM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: RE: Re: o-540



My 9:1 with Forward Facing Cold Induction & FM300 plus 2 Mags tested at 293 Hp. Still waiting for a simple EI swap out. And waiting, and waiting…

Robin

From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of Rhonda Bewley
Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 5:54 AM
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Jesse:

With an updraft sump, you are absolutely correct. With cold air induction and either an RSA10 or Airflow Performance FM250/FM300A, a 10:1 parallel head engine will make right at 300 hp.

Rhonda Barrett-Bewley
Barrett Precision Engines
2870-B N. Sheridan Rd.
Tulsa, OK 74115
(918) 835-1089 phone
(918) 835-1754 fax
www.barrettprecisionengines.com


From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of Jesse Saint
Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 7:45 AM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com (rv10-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: Re: Re: o-540


I have heard others make these types of claims. There's no way 10:1 and 1 Lightspeed is going to make 260HP into 310HP. If 7:1 to 8.5:1 takes it from 235HP to 250HP, even if the comparison is not linear, you couldn't get to 310HP.


do not archive


Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse(at)saintaviation.com (jesse(at)saintaviation.com)
C: 352-427-0285
F: 815-377-3694


On Jul 9, 2013, at 1:26 AM, Albert Gardner <ibspud(at)roadrunner.com (ibspud(at)roadrunner.com)> wrote:


Performance Engines out of La Verne, CA built my IO-540. With 10:1 compression and 1 Lightspeed they rated it at 310 HP. With 799 hours on it I have put 8003 gallons of 100LL in, just about exactly 10 GPH average. (I’m not going to tell my wife how much 8K gallons of gas costs)

Albert Gardner

N991RV

Yuma, AZ



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Sent: Monday, July 08, 2013 8:27 PM
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Every RV'er that has ever gone with less hp or smaller displacement, always pays the price. They have to run a higher percentage of power just to keep up, and because of that they also end up burning more fuel. Also if you're carbeurated you have more difficulty running lean of peak, which also means you burn more fuel.
A friend of mine with a new Mattituck, carbed 540 has an avg cruise fuel burn between 11 and 12 gph.... whereas I burn between 9.6 and 10.2.... do the math, I now have over 500 hours, at a 1+ gph more fuel burn, that would cost you around $2,800 in additional fuel cost..... so over the life of the TBO, over $10,000!!!!!!!!
Don McDonald





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PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 2:01 pm    Post subject: o-540 Reply with quote
And a keyboard! ;-0

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That’s it….you owe me a beer!

[b]Rhonda Barrett-Bewley[/b]
[i]Barrett Precision Engines[/i]
2870-B N. Sheridan Rd.
Tulsa, OK 74115
(918) 835-1089 phone
(918) 835-1754 fax
www.barrettprecisionengines.com


From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of Michael Sausen
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… and they love to put in Lightspeed Ignitions. Or at least they loved mine. Smile

Michael


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