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PostPosted: Tue May 27, 2014 4:45 am    Post subject: fuel pump push rod dimensions? Reply with quote

Greetings... I need to either fabricate or purchase a fuel pump push rod for a 3300a s.n. 1054 I see in the manual that it's length should be 72.3-72.8 mm. If someone reading this has one handy, could you mic it for me and tell me the diameter? My best guess so far is 0.316, based on an 'O' drill bit shank, but I don't know exactly how much clearance is called for. Thanks!
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PostPosted: Tue May 27, 2014 5:06 am    Post subject: fuel pump push rod dimensions? Reply with quote

72.79 mm x 8 mm (0.314)
Regards, Clive

On 27 May 2014, at 13:44, j. davis <jwd3ca(at)gmail.com (jwd3ca(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
[quote]Greetings... I need to either fabricate or purchase a fuel pump push rod for a 3300a s.n. 1054 I see in the manual that it's length should be 72.3-72.8 mm. If someone reading this has one handy, could you mic it for me and tell me the diameter? My best guess so far is 0.316, based on an 'O' drill bit shank, but I don't know exactly how much clearance is called for. Thanks!
--
Regards, J.
-----------------------------
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email: jwd3ca at gmail dot com
*NIX consulting, Medical Imaging programmer

- Zenith STOL CH750 C-FJNJ: Jab 3300, Whilrwind GA prop
- Sonex #325 (ex)C-FJNJ, Jab 3300a, Prince P-Tip, Aerocarb
- former C-IGGY CH701 owner/builder
- see all at http://cleco.ca



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PostPosted: Tue May 27, 2014 5:30 am    Post subject: fuel pump push rod dimensions? Reply with quote

According to the overhaul manual (JEM0001-4, page 96) there are two different types of fuel pump, each requiring a different pushrod length. Check carefully.

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[quote] 72.79 mm x 8 mm (0.314)
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On 27 May 2014, at 13:44, j. davis <jwd3ca(at)gmail.com (jwd3ca(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
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Greetings... I need to either fabricate or purchase a fuel pump push rod for a 3300a s.n. 1054 I see in the manual that it's length should be 72.3-72.8 mm. If someone reading this has one handy, could you mic it for me and tell me the diameter? My best guess so far is 0.316, based on an 'O' drill bit shank, but I don't know exactly how much clearance is called for. Thanks!
--
Regards, J.
-----------------------------
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email: jwd3ca at gmail dot com
*NIX consulting, Medical Imaging programmer

- Zenith STOL CH750 C-FJNJ: Jab 3300, Whilrwind GA prop
- Sonex #325 (ex)C-FJNJ, Jab 3300a, Prince P-Tip, Aerocarb
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PostPosted: Tue May 27, 2014 5:32 am    Post subject: fuel pump push rod dimensions? Reply with quote

Thanks, Clive! 8mm O-1 drill rod is easily available, do you think this temper would be correct for this application? BTW, 8mm is actually 0.315 (0.314961 to be exact). Would you have any reservations about fabricating versus purchasing the Jabiru part?

On 27 May 2014 09:05, Clive James <zcrj90(at)yahoo.co.uk (zcrj90(at)yahoo.co.uk)> wrote:
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72.79 mm x 8 mm (0.314) 
Regards, Clive

On 27 May 2014, at 13:44, j. davis <jwd3ca(at)gmail.com (jwd3ca(at)gmail.com)> wrote:

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Greetings... I need to either fabricate or purchase a fuel pump push rod for a 3300a s.n. 1054 I see in the manual that it's length should be 72.3-72.8 mm. If someone reading this has one handy, could you mic it for me and tell me the diameter? My best guess so far is 0.316, based on an 'O' drill bit shank, but I don't know exactly how much clearance is called for. Thanks!
--
Regards,  J.
-----------------------------
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email: jwd3ca at gmail dot com
*NIX consulting, Medical Imaging programmer

- Zenith STOL CH750 C-FJNJ: Jab 3300, Whilrwind GA prop
- Sonex #325 (ex)C-FJNJ, Jab 3300a, Prince P-Tip, Aerocarb
- former C-IGGY CH701 owner/builder
- see all at http://cleco.ca



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email: jwd3ca at gmail dot com
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PostPosted: Tue May 27, 2014 5:59 am    Post subject: fuel pump push rod dimensions? Reply with quote

Noted, thanks. The length I gave pertains to my type 1 pump (with the cast emblems. Rob, would you have any reservations fabricating this rod (versus purchasing fom Jabiru) ? Using O-1 temper 8mm drill rod?

On 27 May 2014 09:29, Rob Turk <matronics(at)rtist.nl (matronics(at)rtist.nl)> wrote:
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According to the overhaul manual (JEM0001-4, page 96) there are two different types of fuel pump, each requiring a different pushrod length. Check carefully.

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Quote:
72.79 mm x 8 mm (0.314) 
Regards, Clive





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Greetings... I need to either fabricate or purchase a fuel pump push rod for a 3300a s.n. 1054 I see in the manual that it's length should be 72.3-72.8 mm. If someone reading this has one handy, could you mic it for me and tell me the diameter? My best guess so far is 0.316, based on an 'O' drill bit shank, but I don't know exactly how much clearance is called for. Thanks!
--
Regards,  J.
-----------------------------
J. Davis,   
email: jwd3ca at gmail dot com
*NIX consulting, Medical Imaging programmer

- Zenith STOL CH750 C-FJNJ: Jab 3300, Whilrwind GA prop
- Sonex #325 (ex)C-FJNJ, Jab 3300a, Prince P-Tip, Aerocarb
- former C-IGGY CH701 owner/builder
- see all at http://cleco.ca



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PostPosted: Tue May 27, 2014 7:09 am    Post subject: fuel pump push rod dimensions? Reply with quote

Was just reading off the mic…..
Afraid I don’t know, I’m sure there’s someone on here that would know. It’s not actually working very hard…..
Regards, Clive

On 27 May 2014, at 14:32, j. davis <jwd3ca(at)gmail.com (jwd3ca(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
[quote]Thanks, Clive! 8mm O-1 drill rod is easily available, do you think this temper would be correct for this application? BTW, 8mm is actually 0.315 (0.314961 to be exact). Would you have any reservations about fabricating versus purchasing the Jabiru part?

On 27 May 2014 09:05, Clive James <zcrj90(at)yahoo.co.uk (zcrj90(at)yahoo.co.uk)> wrote:
Quote:
72.79 mm x 8 mm (0.314)
Regards, Clive

On 27 May 2014, at 13:44, j. davis <jwd3ca(at)gmail.com (jwd3ca(at)gmail.com)> wrote:

Quote:
Greetings... I need to either fabricate or purchase a fuel pump push rod for a 3300a s.n. 1054 I see in the manual that it's length should be 72.3-72.8 mm. If someone reading this has one handy, could you mic it for me and tell me the diameter? My best guess so far is 0.316, based on an 'O' drill bit shank, but I don't know exactly how much clearance is called for. Thanks!
--
Regards, J.
-----------------------------
J. Davis,
email: jwd3ca at gmail dot com
*NIX consulting, Medical Imaging programmer

- Zenith STOL CH750 C-FJNJ: Jab 3300, Whilrwind GA prop
- Sonex #325 (ex)C-FJNJ, Jab 3300a, Prince P-Tip, Aerocarb
- former C-IGGY CH701 owner/builder
- see all at http://cleco.ca



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- Zenith STOL CH750 C-FJNJ: Jab 3300, Whilrwind GA prop, Aerocarb
- Sonex #325 (ex)C-FJNJ, Jab 3300a, Prince P-Tip, Aerocarb
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PostPosted: Tue May 27, 2014 7:11 am    Post subject: fuel pump push rod dimensions? Reply with quote

The pump I measured was from 3300 ser no 1460, the later type as far as I can see as the gaskets on my old 2200 are different.

Regards, Clive

On 27 May 2014, at 14:59, j. davis <jwd3ca(at)gmail.com (jwd3ca(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
[quote]Noted, thanks. The length I gave pertains to my type 1 pump (with the cast emblems. Rob, would you have any reservations fabricating this rod (versus purchasing fom Jabiru) ? Using O-1 temper 8mm drill rod?

On 27 May 2014 09:29, Rob Turk <matronics(at)rtist.nl (matronics(at)rtist.nl)> wrote:
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According to the overhaul manual (JEM0001-4, page 96) there are two different types of fuel pump, each requiring a different pushrod length. Check carefully.

On 5/27/2014 3:05 PM, Clive James wrote:

Quote:
72.79 mm x 8 mm (0.314)
Regards, Clive





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Greetings... I need to either fabricate or purchase a fuel pump push rod for a 3300a s.n. 1054 I see in the manual that it's length should be 72.3-72.8 mm. If someone reading this has one handy, could you mic it for me and tell me the diameter? My best guess so far is 0.316, based on an 'O' drill bit shank, but I don't know exactly how much clearance is called for. Thanks!
--
Regards, J.
-----------------------------
J. Davis,
email: jwd3ca at gmail dot com
*NIX consulting, Medical Imaging programmer

- Zenith STOL CH750 C-FJNJ: Jab 3300, Whilrwind GA prop
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PostPosted: Tue May 27, 2014 8:10 am    Post subject: fuel pump push rod dimensions? Reply with quote

Frankly I wouldn't do it. I do not know what material is being used in the factory push rod. I wouldn't take chances, as you simply do not know what long term effect using any arbitrary material can have on the cam lobe. Also, the pushrod is a fairly tight fit through the crankcase. Using the wrong material with different heat expansion and/or different surface roughness might cause it to seize.

Play it safe, get the part from Jabiru.

On 5/27/2014 3:59 PM, j. davis wrote:

[quote] Noted, thanks. The length I gave pertains to my type 1 pump (with the cast emblems. Rob, would you have any reservations fabricating this rod (versus purchasing fom Jabiru) ? Using O-1 temper 8mm drill rod?



On 27 May 2014 09:29, Rob Turk <matronics(at)rtist.nl (matronics(at)rtist.nl)> wrote:
Quote:
According to the overhaul manual (JEM0001-4, page 96) there are two different types of fuel pump, each requiring a different pushrod length. Check carefully.

On 5/27/2014 3:05 PM, Clive James wrote:

Quote:
72.79 mm x 8 mm (0.314)
Regards, Clive





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Greetings... I need to either fabricate or purchase a fuel pump push rod for a 3300a s.n. 1054 I see in the manual that it's length should be 72.3-72.8 mm. If someone reading this has one handy, could you mic it for me and tell me the diameter? My best guess so far is 0.316, based on an 'O' drill bit shank, but I don't know exactly how much clearance is called for. Thanks!
--
Regards, J.
-----------------------------
J. Davis,
email: jwd3ca at gmail dot com
*NIX consulting, Medical Imaging programmer

- Zenith STOL CH750 C-FJNJ: Jab 3300, Whilrwind GA prop
- Sonex #325 (ex)C-FJNJ, Jab 3300a, Prince P-Tip, Aerocarb
- former C-IGGY CH701 owner/builder
- see all at http://cleco.ca



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- Zenith STOL CH750 C-FJNJ: Jab 3300, Whilrwind GA prop, Aerocarb
- Sonex #325 (ex)C-FJNJ, Jab 3300a, Prince P-Tip, Aerocarb
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PostPosted: Tue May 27, 2014 9:40 am    Post subject: fuel pump push rod dimensions? Reply with quote

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Frankly I wouldn't do it. I do not know what material is being used in the factory push rod. I wouldn't take chances, as you simply do not know what long term effect using any arbitrary material can have on the cam lobe. Also, the pushrod is a fairly tight fit through the crankcase. Using the wrong material with different heat expansion and/or different surface roughness might cause it to seize.

Play it safe, get the part from Jabiru.

I think that's probably good advice, Rob. And I think I'll take it. ;')

Patience is a virtue I don’t always necessarily possess... ;')
 

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- Zenith STOL CH750 C-FJNJ: Jab 3300, Whilrwind GA prop, Aerocarb
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