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fasilpereira

Joined: 17 Jul 2011
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Location: Brazil

Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2014 8:37 am Post subject: Aileron Electric Trim Tab

My project came with an aileron trim tab already cut by the previous builder on the right wing aileron.

During the balancing process of the aileron I've noticed that this tab is very heavy for its size. Besides that, there is an additional weight of the aileron trim servo, servo cover, electric cable.....

I'm thinking if all that stuff is really necessary. Most of the single engine aircraft that I've flown don't have an aileron trim tab. I think that the fixed aileron trim tab is light, simple, reliable and very efficient for small roll tendency adjustment.

Before I remove my aileron trim tab and all the associated systems, I'd like to listen to what you guys think about it.

Thanks,



Fabricio

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Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2014 10:22 am Post subject: Aileron Electric Trim Tab

Fabricio,



I have a TR-1 with electric aileron trim and use it every flight and am glad

to have it. My fuel system requires requires left or right fuel tank, not

both. Using aileron trim lets me fly longer on one tank and keep her level.

Also I have to retrim if I carry a passenger. A Cruiser, being larger and

heaver, my not be as sensentive to the weight changes.



Tim N52TY 



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Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2014 2:22 pm Post subject: Aileron Electric Trim Tab

My fuel tanks go all the way out to the wingtip so even small fuel imbalances require significant aileron trim when the tanks are near full.  

If your fuel tanks are only the inner two bays then you probably don't need aileron trim.  If you are using the third or fourth bay I would say you will need aileron trim.  

My "forward of the spar" full span fuel tanks are 21-22 gallons per side.

Scott

 

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Fabricio,



I have a TR-1 with electric aileron trim and use it every flight and am glad

to have it. My fuel system requires requires left or right fuel tank, not

both. Using aileron trim lets me fly longer on one tank and keep her level.

Also I have to retrim if I carry a passenger. A Cruiser, being larger and

heaver, my not be as  sensentive to the weight changes.



Tim N52TY 



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Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2014 5:48 pm Post subject: Aileron Electric Trim Tab

FWIW: I use my electric aileron trimÂ in just about every flight on my TR4 and am glad I have it especially on flights longer that 1hr.

On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 12:37 PM, fasilpereira <fasilpereira(at)hotmail.com (fasilpereira(at)hotmail.com)> wrote:

  [quote]--> KIS-List message posted by: "fasilpereira" <fasilpereira(at)hotmail.com (fasilpereira(at)hotmail.com)>

   

 My project came with an aileron trim tab already cut by the previous builder on the right wing aileron.

 During the balancing process of the aileron I've noticed that this tab is very heavy for its size. Besides that, there is an additional weight of the aileron trim servo, servo cover, electric cable.....

 I'm thinking if all that stuff is really necessary. Most of the single engine aircraft that I've flown don't have an aileron trim tab. I think that the fixed aileron trim tab is light, simple, reliable and very efficient for small roll tendency adjustment.

   Before I remove my aileron trim tab and all the associated systems, I'd like to listen to what you guys think about it.

 Thanks,

 

 Fabricio

 

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Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2014 11:42 pm Post subject: Aileron Electric Trim Tab

I wish i had an aileron trim on my 2 place , its very sensitive to  weight

imbalance  either from Fuel or passenger - Keep it !!!





From:	Galin Hernandez <galinhdz(at)gmail.com>

To:	"kis-list(at)matronics.com" <kis-list(at)matronics.com>,

Date:	08/14/2014 03:50 AM

Subject:	Re: Aileron Electric Trim Tab

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FWIW: I use my electric aileron trim in just about every flight on my TR4 and

am glad I have it especially on flights longer that 1hr.

On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 12:37 PM, fasilpereira <fasilpereira(at)hotmail.com>

wrote:

  



  My project came with an aileron trim tab already cut by the previous

  builder on the right wing aileron.

  During the balancing process of the aileron I've noticed that this tab is

  very heavy for its size. Besides that, there is an additional weight of the

  aileron trim servo, servo cover, electric cable.....

  I'm thinking if all that stuff is really necessary. Most of the single

  engine aircraft that I've flown don't have an aileron trim tab. I think

  that the fixed aileron trim tab is light, simple, reliable and very

  efficient for small roll tendency adjustment.

  Before I remove my aileron trim tab and all the associated systems, I'd

  like to listen to what you guys think about it.

  Thanks,



  Fabricio



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Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2014 2:37 pm Post subject: Aileron Electric Trim Tab

Keep it !! I use mine on Every Flight ...

Randy 

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 I wish i had an aileron trim on my 2 place , its very sensitive to  weight

 imbalance  either from Fuel or passenger - Keep it !!!

 

 

 

 

 From:    Galin Hernandez <galinhdz(at)gmail.com>

 To:    "kis-list(at)matronics.com" <kis-list(at)matronics.com>,

 Date:    08/14/2014 03:50 AM

 Subject:    Re: Aileron Electric Trim Tab

 Sent by:    owner-kis-list-server(at)matronics.com

 

 

 

 FWIW: I use my electric aileron trim in just about every flight on my TR4 and

 am glad I have it especially on flights longer that 1hr.

 

 

 On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 12:37 PM, fasilpereira <fasilpereira(at)hotmail.com>

 wrote:

  

 

  My project came with an aileron trim tab already cut by the previous

  builder on the right wing aileron.

  During the balancing process of the aileron I've noticed that this tab is

  very heavy for its size. Besides that, there is an additional weight of the

  aileron trim servo, servo cover, electric cable.....

  I'm thinking if all that stuff is really necessary. Most of the single

  engine aircraft that I've flown don't have an aileron trim tab. I think

  that the fixed aileron trim tab is light, simple, reliable and very

  efficient for small roll tendency adjustment.

  Before I remove my aileron trim tab and all the associated systems, I'd

  like to listen to what you guys think about it.

  Thanks,

 

  Fabricio

 

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  Engineer / Pilot

 

 

 

 

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Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2014 5:28 pm Post subject: Aileron Electric Trim Tab

I agree, I wish I had one on my KIS TR1. Â FuelÂ usage createsÂ weight imbalance and heavy wings.



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 Keep it !! I use mine on Every Flight ...

 Randy

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 > --> KIS-List message posted by: [url=javascript:;]Keith.Miller(at)esa.int[/url]

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 > I wish i had an aileron trim on my 2 place , its very sensitive to Â weight

 > imbalance Â either from Fuel or passenger - Keep it !!!

 >

 >

 >

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 > From: Â  Â Galin Hernandez <[url=javascript:;]galinhdz(at)gmail.com[/url]>

 > To: Â  Â "[url=javascript:;]kis-list(at)matronics.com[/url]" <[url=javascript:;]kis-list(at)matronics.com[/url]>,

  > Date: Â  Â 08/14/2014 03:50 AM

 > Subject: Â  Â Re: Aileron Electric Trim Tab

 > Sent by: Â  Â [url=javascript:;]owner-kis-list-server(at)matronics.com[/url]

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 >

 > FWIW: I use my electric aileron trim in just about every flight on my TR4 and

 > am glad I have it especially on flights longer that 1hr.

 >

 >

 > On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 12:37 PM, fasilpereira <[url=javascript:;]fasilpereira(at)hotmail.com[/url]>

 > wrote:

 > Â --> KIS-List message posted by: "fasilpereira" <[url=javascript:;]fasilpereira(at)hotmail.com[/url]>

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 > Â My project came with an aileron trim tab already cut by the previous

 > Â builder on the right wing aileron.

 > Â During the balancing process of the aileron I've noticed that this tab is

 > Â very heavy for its size. Besides that, there is an additional weight of the

 > Â aileron trim servo, servo cover, electric cable.....

 > Â I'm thinking if all that stuff is really necessary. Most of the single

 > Â engine aircraft that I've flown don't have an aileron trim tab. I think

 > Â that the fixed aileron trim tab is light, simple, reliable and very

 > Â efficient for small roll tendency adjustment.

 > Â Before I remove my aileron trim tab and all the associated systems, I'd

 > Â like to listen to what you guys think about it.

 > Â Thanks,

 >

 > Â Fabricio

 >

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 > Â Engineer / Pilot

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Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2014 6:04 pm Post subject: Re: Aileron Electric Trim Tab

Ok guys, I'll keep my aileron trim tab. I'm now building a new and lighter tab.

Thanks,



Fabricio

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Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2014 6:18 pm Post subject: Aileron Electric Trim Tab

Good choice, congrats.



Tim 



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