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 Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2015 8:44 am Post subject: Delta-Pop ADS-B antenna placement |
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Having purchased the NavWorx ADS600B and Delta-Pop antenna, I'm trying to figure out where to install the antenna....
Since the Delta-Pop is a blade-type antenna, it will need to be mounted along the fuselage direction of flight axis. There are a couple of places where bulkheads mount to the bottom skin and are aligned correctly. I'm thinking of taking advantage of one of these bulkheads instead of mounting a doubler plate to the underside.
Thoughts please?
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| Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2015 9:20 am Post subject: Delta-Pop ADS-B antenna placement |
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I put mine back in the empenage without a doubbler and have not had any noticeable issues.
Dave Leonard
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Having purchased the NavWorx ADS600B and Delta-Pop antenna, I'm trying to figure out where to install the antenna....
Since the Delta-Pop is a blade-type antenna, it will need to be mounted along the fuselage direction of flight axis. There are a couple of places where bulkheads mount to the bottom skin and are aligned correctly. I'm thinking of taking advantage of one of these bulkheads instead of mounting a doubler plate to the underside.
Thoughts please?
Thanks,
Ralph
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| Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2015 9:37 am Post subject: Delta-Pop ADS-B antenna placement |
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Inside or outside?
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[quote]I put mine back in the empenage without a doubbler and have not had any noticeable issues.
Dave Leonard
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| Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2015 9:57 am Post subject: Delta-Pop ADS-B antenna placement |
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John,
The navworx unit requires two antennas. One for the UAT and one for the GPS. The blade antenna they are talking about the UAT output which is similar to a transponder antenna. I wouldn't recommend locating that internally.
Bob
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On Jan 20, 2015, at 12:35 PM, John Jessen <n212pj(at)gmail.com (n212pj(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
Inside or outside?
On Jan 20, 2015, at 9:19 AM, David Leonard <wdleonard(at)gmail.com (wdleonard(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
[quote]I put mine back in the empenage without a doubbler and have not had any noticeable issues.
Dave Leonard
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| Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2015 10:18 am Post subject: Delta-Pop ADS-B antenna placement |
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Any pictures?!
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| Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2015 10:22 am Post subject: Delta-Pop ADS-B antenna placement |
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I'm planning on getting my position data from my 420W - so I shouldn't need the second GPS antenna...but that sounds like a good plan b place to put it.
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| Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2015 10:22 am Post subject: Delta-Pop ADS-B antenna placement |
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Ah! Ok. Thanks. I'm very interested in this topic and product, although not sure it works with Foreflight.
On Jan 20, 2015, at 9:56 AM, Bob Leffler <rv(at)thelefflers.com (rv(at)thelefflers.com)> wrote:
[quote]John,
The navworx unit requires two antennas. One for the UAT and one for the GPS. The blade antenna they are talking about the UAT output which is similar to a transponder antenna. I wouldn't recommend locating that internally.
Bob
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On Jan 20, 2015, at 12:35 PM, John Jessen <n212pj(at)gmail.com (n212pj(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
Inside or outside?
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| Quote: | I put mine back in the empenage without a doubbler and have not had any noticeable issues.
Dave Leonard
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| Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2015 10:37 am Post subject: Delta-Pop ADS-B antenna placement |
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Nothing works with foreflight, but stratus. That's why I use wingx.
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On Jan 20, 2015, at 1:22 PM, John Jessen <n212pj(at)gmail.com (n212pj(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
Ah! Ok. Thanks. I'm very interested in this topic and product, although not sure it works with Foreflight.
On Jan 20, 2015, at 9:56 AM, Bob Leffler <rv(at)thelefflers.com (rv(at)thelefflers.com)> wrote:
[quote]John,
The navworx unit requires two antennas. One for the UAT and one for the GPS. The blade antenna they are talking about the UAT output which is similar to a transponder antenna. I wouldn't recommend locating that internally.
Bob
Sent from my iPhone
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Inside or outside?
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| Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2015 10:37 am Post subject: Delta-Pop ADS-B antenna placement |
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Unfortunately that's not supported with the current navworx units. The GPS is internal to the unit.
In 2016, for experimentals you be able to do the opposite. Send GPS position data to your EFIS from navworx.
Other vendors may work differently.
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On Jan 20, 2015, at 1:21 PM, Ralph E. Capen <recapen(at)earthlink.net> wrote:
I'm planning on getting my position data from my 420W - so I shouldn't need the second GPS antenna...but that sounds like a good plan b place to put it.
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| Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2015 10:58 am Post subject: Delta-Pop ADS-B antenna placement |
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Yes, I'd probably have to switch over. I don't like WingX, but could get used to it, I suppose.
On Jan 20, 2015, at 10:36 AM, Bob Leffler <rv(at)thelefflers.com (rv(at)thelefflers.com)> wrote:
[quote]Nothing works with foreflight, but stratus. That's why I use wingx.
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On Jan 20, 2015, at 1:22 PM, John Jessen <n212pj(at)gmail.com (n212pj(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
Ah! Ok. Thanks. I'm very interested in this topic and product, although not sure it works with Foreflight.
On Jan 20, 2015, at 9:56 AM, Bob Leffler <rv(at)thelefflers.com (rv(at)thelefflers.com)> wrote:
| Quote: | John,
The navworx unit requires two antennas. One for the UAT and one for the GPS. The blade antenna they are talking about the UAT output which is similar to a transponder antenna. I wouldn't recommend locating that internally.
Bob
Sent from my iPhone
On Jan 20, 2015, at 12:35 PM, John Jessen <n212pj(at)gmail.com (n212pj(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
Inside or outside?
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| Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2015 11:24 am Post subject: Delta-Pop ADS-B antenna placement |
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Outside lower, of course, just like a blade xpdr antenna. Nothing special to see in a picture. I did not use a doubler (like I did for my ship comm antenna) because the forces are relatively small the fore/aft mounting holes will not allow for twisting of the skin the way a single hole would.
My GPS antenna is top interior with a view of the sky just like the other satellite antennas.
I like my Navworx. I have had it installed for 2 years now. Was worth purchasing early (long before 2020). I use it with an e-ink/lcd (pixel Qi - the more sunlight the easier to read) windows tablet (solid state hard drive, not an HHD) and Chartflier software. Â
The system just needs to have audible traffic alerts from either the software or the Navworx. Seems easy enough to do but still not available.
Dave Leonard
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| Quote: | I put mine back in the empenage without a doubbler and have not had any noticeable issues.
Dave Leonard
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Larry Bowen
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I recently switched to Garmin Pilot because I didn't want to be tied to Stratus (with Foreflight). GP has been good overall, though I have to admit Foreflight seems to set the pace of innovation when it comes to this class of apps on the ipad.
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On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 2:23 PM, David Leonard <wdleonard(at)gmail.com (wdleonard(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
[quote]Outside lower, of course, just like a blade xpdr antenna. Nothing special to see in a picture. I did not use a doubler (like I did for my ship comm antenna) because the forces are relatively small the fore/aft mounting holes will not allow for twisting of the skin the way a single hole would.
My GPS antenna is top interior with a view of the sky just like the other satellite antennas.
I like my Navworx. I have had it installed for 2 years now. Was worth purchasing early (long before 2020). I use it with an e-ink/lcd (pixel Qi - the more sunlight the easier to read) windows tablet (solid state hard drive, not an HHD) and Chartflier software. Â
The system just needs to have audible traffic alerts from either the software or the Navworx. Seems easy enough to do but still not available.
Dave Leonard
On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 9:35 AM, John Jessen <n212pj(at)gmail.com (n212pj(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
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On Jan 20, 2015, at 9:19 AM, David Leonard <wdleonard(at)gmail.com (wdleonard(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
| Quote: | I put mine back in the empenage without a doubbler and have not had any noticeable issues.
Dave Leonard
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Tim Olson
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| Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2015 12:33 pm Post subject: Delta-Pop ADS-B antenna placement |
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For what it's worth, the RV-14 (unless I missed something
in construction) doesn't use doublers for the UAT and
Transponder antennas, but it does for the 2 COM antennas.
If true, then I don't think Van's thinks you need one for
the blades. I'm still considering if I should add one,
but with the fairly low drag maybe it's not worth worrying
about it.
Tim
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