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PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2015 7:28 pm    Post subject: Wheels and Brakes Reply with quote

Hi Fred: my preference would be the Grove wheel with the ball bearings for the nose gear, I got the standard Matco with my kit and then had it retrofited with the ball bearings. The high seal drag and timken bearings in the matco wheel a to cause some problems when not adjusted exactly right for preload, preload is not an issue with ball bearings provided the internal spacer is correct dimension.
My kit had cleveland main wheels and brakes which I am using with no modification.

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I have ordered the finishing kit for my 8A and am considering alternatives to Van's supplied Matco wheels and brakes. Are there opinions and user experiences out there that would favor Matco vs Cleveland vs Grove, or are they all similar quality?


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 2015 7:35 am    Post subject: Wheels and Brakes Reply with quote

I am also using Cleveland wheels and brakes on my 8. Have had no issues and have 585 hours and over 1100 landings.
Ed Clegg
On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 11:27 PM, Dennis Fox <dennisfox(at)persona.ca (dennisfox(at)persona.ca)> wrote:
[quote] Hi Fred: my preference would be the Grove wheel with the ball bearings for the nose gear, I got the standard Matco with my kit and then had it retrofited with the ball bearings.  The high seal drag and timken bearings in the matco wheel a to cause some problems when not adjusted exactly right for preload, preload is not an issue with ball bearings provided the internal spacer is correct dimension.
My kit had cleveland main wheels and brakes which I am using with no modification.
 
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I have ordered the finishing kit for my 8A and am considering alternatives to Van's supplied Matco wheels and brakes.  Are there opinions and user experiences out there that would favor Matco vs Cleveland vs Grove, or are they all similar quality?


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 2015 8:10 am    Post subject: Wheels and Brakes Reply with quote

My RV-8 Version 1.0 came with Cleveland wheels and brakes and they worked fine. RV-8 Version 2.0 came with Matco wheels and brakes. While I haven't actually flown with the Matco's yet, I have to say they seem better built and more "manly". Time will tell.

Attached are a pair of pictures from my Cleveland installation and another pair of pictures from my Matco installation for comparison.

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I am also using Cleveland wheels and brakes on my 8. Have had no issues and have 585 hours and over 1100 landings.

Ed Clegg

On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 11:27 PM, Dennis Fox <<mailto:dennisfox(at)persona.ca>dennisfox(at)persona.ca> wrote:
Hi Fred: my preference would be the Grove wheel with the ball bearings for the nose gear, I got the standard Matco with my kit and then had it retrofited with the ball bearings. The high seal drag and timken bearings in the matco wheel a to cause some problems when not adjusted exactly right for preload, preload is not an issue with ball bearings provided the internal spacer is correct dimension.
My kit had cleveland main wheels and brakes which I am using with no modification.

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I have ordered the finishing kit for my 8A and am considering alternatives to Van's supplied Matco wheels and brakes. Are there opinions and user experiences out there that would favor Matco vs Cleveland vs Grove, or are they all similar quality?

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 2015 8:40 am    Post subject: Wheels and Brakes Reply with quote

😎👍 Replaced the Matco brakes off my "used" -8A and replaced them with Grove's setup. Robbie Grove personally helped me install them while I was in San Diego doing fire standby. He has a lifetime of experimental AC. I am impressed with the smooth breaking and solid feel. Each wheel now has two Pistons pushing against the brake pad, the Matco's are single Pistons. When side by side, you can simply see the better quality and superior design. The -8A uses more braking action to maneuver on the ground than their brothers with the little wheel in back. They are a bit more $ but I decided they where worth it, but than again I'm not too bright😜,,,, good luck and enjoy flying your -8A. Over 700 hrs now with miles of lost taxing around various unfamiliar aerodromes. -Rotor 🚁💦🔥


On Mar 25, 2015, at 8:34 AM, edward Clegg <edwclg(at)gmail.com (edwclg(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
[quote]I am also using Cleveland wheels and brakes on my 8. Have had no issues and have 585 hours and over 1100 landings.
Ed Clegg
On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 11:27 PM, Dennis Fox <dennisfox(at)persona.ca (dennisfox(at)persona.ca)> wrote:
Quote:
Hi Fred: my preference would be the Grove wheel with the ball bearings for the nose gear, I got the standard Matco with my kit and then had it retrofited with the ball bearings. The high seal drag and timken bearings in the matco wheel a to cause some problems when not adjusted exactly right for preload, preload is not an issue with ball bearings provided the internal spacer is correct dimension.
My kit had cleveland main wheels and brakes which I am using with no modification.

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Subject: Wheels and Brakes


I have ordered the finishing kit for my 8A and am considering alternatives to Van's supplied Matco wheels and brakes. Are there opinions and user experiences out there that would favor Matco vs Cleveland vs Grove, or are they all similar quality?


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