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PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2015 7:15 am    Post subject: KOSH Parking Reply with quote

Hi

I have a couple of questions for those who have parked at KOSH with -10s. There doesn't seem to be a lost of ground clearance on my wheel pants and am wondering is there is a risk of damage taxing on the uneven grass.

When I flew my PA28 in, there wasn't a problem as the bottom of the pants were higher from the ground.

As well, I am wondering if there is a problem, for similar reasons, with wheels sinking into the ground, especially after rain. I seem to recall a stuck -10 that had a problem getting out for this reason. Is it worthwhile bringing something for the wheels to sit on and if so are there any recommendations?

Inquiring minds need to know....

Cheers

Les


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2015 7:43 am    Post subject: KOSH Parking Reply with quote

Use caution transitioning from grass to pavement some lips are high
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Hi

I have a couple of questions for those who have parked at KOSH with -10s. There doesn't seem to be a lost of ground clearance on my wheel pants and am wondering is there is a risk of damage taxing on the uneven grass.

When I flew my PA28 in, there wasn't a problem as the bottom of the pants were higher from the ground.

As well, I am wondering if there is a problem, for similar reasons, with wheels sinking into the ground, especially after rain. I seem to recall a stuck -10 that had a problem getting out for this reason. Is it worthwhile bringing something for the wheels to sit on and if so are there any recommendations?

Inquiring minds need to know....

Cheers

Les




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PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2015 7:54 am    Post subject: KOSH Parking Reply with quote

Les,

Grass has not been a problem for me regarding clearance but, one year I landed RWY 9 and they made me exit left onto the grass.
Had to taxi a LONG way around the field on grass over small inclines up and over each paved taxi-way intersection to get to show plane parking with the other 10’s.
Burned up a brake seal and formed a leak due to unavoidably riding the brakes to steer on the grass which was less than smooth.
Also scratched the bottom of a wheel pant on the edge of a taxi way while climbing over the edge of it.
(Replaced seals with viton.)
I live 20 minutes by air from KOSH so if they are landing runway 9 I now drive.

Dave Leikam

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Hi

I have a couple of questions for those who have parked at KOSH with -10s. There doesn't seem to be a lost of ground clearance on my wheel pants and am wondering is there is a risk of damage taxing on the uneven grass.

When I flew my PA28 in, there wasn't a problem as the bottom of the pants were higher from the ground.

As well, I am wondering if there is a problem, for similar reasons, with wheels sinking into the ground, especially after rain. I seem to recall a stuck -10 that had a problem getting out for this reason. Is it worthwhile bringing something for the wheels to sit on and if so are there any recommendations?

Inquiring minds need to know....

Cheers

Les




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PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2015 7:54 am    Post subject: KOSH Parking Reply with quote

I've had my '10 there several times with no problems with ground clearance.
As far as rain and soft ground that could be a problem if you try to move
the plane very soon after a heavy rain. One year with my 5th wheel parked in
camp Scholler on the highest hump I could see hoping to avoid being in a
lake, after the rain I was an island in the middle of a lake and couldn't
go anywhere anyway till things dried up a bit. Even though drainage seems
good over at HBC you want to avoid any low, damp areas when you taxi. One
year a vendor was displaying some tank-type tracks that could be attached to
pickups and ATV's. Maybe he now has some for aircraft.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2015 8:01 am    Post subject: KOSH Parking Reply with quote

Not really a problem for wheel pants in the RV-10 area while taxiing but watch the transition from grass to the taxiway.  If really concerned about sinking into the ground while parked for an extended time, just bring along some pieces of plywood to put under the tires.  Make sure you pick them up when leaving though. Even during Sloshkosh (2010) no issues, but I did have plywood under the tires.  Just 3 1x1' pieces of 1/2" would be fine. 
 
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Hi

I have a couple of questions for those who have parked at KOSH with -10s. There doesn't seem to be a lost of ground clearance on my wheel pants and am wondering is there is a risk of damage taxing on the uneven grass.

When I flew my PA28 in, there wasn't a problem as the bottom of the pants were higher from the ground.

As well, I am wondering if there is a problem, for similar reasons, with wheels sinking into the ground, especially after rain. I seem to recall a stuck -10 that had a problem getting out for this reason.  Is it worthwhile bringing something for the wheels to sit on and if so are there any recommendations?

Inquiring minds need to know....

Cheers

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2015 9:45 am    Post subject: KOSH Parking Reply with quote

Hmmmm

A long taxi is a bit of a concern. Years ago I have a huge taxi going the other way to GAP. In a PA28 it was a bumpy long taxi. I also had a marshalled almost direct me into a concrete manhole.

Anyway, is there anyway to avoid a long taxi? I was thinking of having both HBP and GAP signs and using whichever was appropriate.

Cheers

Les

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On Jul 2, 2015, at 09:50, David Leikam <arplnplt(at)gmail.com> wrote:



Les,

Grass has not been a problem for me regarding clearance but, one year I landed RWY 9 and they made me exit left onto the grass.
Had to taxi a LONG way around the field on grass over small inclines up and over each paved taxi-way intersection to get to show plane parking with the other 10’s.
Burned up a brake seal and formed a leak due to unavoidably riding the brakes to steer on the grass which was less than smooth.
Also scratched the bottom of a wheel pant on the edge of a taxi way while climbing over the edge of it.
(Replaced seals with viton.)
I live 20 minutes by air from KOSH so if they are landing runway 9 I now drive.

Dave Leikam

> On Jul 2, 2015, at 10:15 AM, kearney <kearney(at)shaw.ca> wrote:
>
>
>
> Hi
>
> I have a couple of questions for those who have parked at KOSH with -10s. There doesn't seem to be a lost of ground clearance on my wheel pants and am wondering is there is a risk of damage taxing on the uneven grass.
>
> When I flew my PA28 in, there wasn't a problem as the bottom of the pants were higher from the ground.
>
> As well, I am wondering if there is a problem, for similar reasons, with wheels sinking into the ground, especially after rain. I seem to recall a stuck -10 that had a problem getting out for this reason. Is it worthwhile bringing something for the wheels to sit on and if so are there any recommendations?
>
> Inquiring minds need to know....
>
> Cheers
>
> Les
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=444298#444298








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PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2015 10:01 am    Post subject: KOSH Parking Reply with quote

Land on 18/36 and you will have pavement all the way to HBC

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On Jul 2, 2015, at 1:22 PM, Les Kearney <kearney(at)shaw.ca> wrote:



Hmmmm

A long taxi is a bit of a concern. Years ago I have a huge taxi going the other way to GAP. In a PA28 it was a bumpy long taxi. I also had a marshalled almost direct me into a concrete manhole.

Anyway, is there anyway to avoid a long taxi? I was thinking of having both HBP and GAP signs and using whichever was appropriate.

Cheers

Les

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On Jul 2, 2015, at 09:50, David Leikam <arplnplt(at)gmail.com> wrote:



Les,

Grass has not been a problem for me regarding clearance but, one year I landed RWY 9 and they made me exit left onto the grass.
Had to taxi a LONG way around the field on grass over small inclines up and over each paved taxi-way intersection to get to show plane parking with the other 10’s.
Burned up a brake seal and formed a leak due to unavoidably riding the brakes to steer on the grass which was less than smooth.
Also scratched the bottom of a wheel pant on the edge of a taxi way while climbing over the edge of it.
(Replaced seals with viton.)
I live 20 minutes by air from KOSH so if they are landing runway 9 I now drive.

Dave Leikam

> On Jul 2, 2015, at 10:15 AM, kearney <kearney(at)shaw.ca> wrote:
>
>
>
> Hi
>
> I have a couple of questions for those who have parked at KOSH with -10s. There doesn't seem to be a lost of ground clearance on my wheel pants and am wondering is there is a risk of damage taxing on the uneven grass.
>
> When I flew my PA28 in, there wasn't a problem as the bottom of the pants were higher from the ground.
>
> As well, I am wondering if there is a problem, for similar reasons, with wheels sinking into the ground, especially after rain. I seem to recall a stuck -10 that had a problem getting out for this reason. Is it worthwhile bringing something for the wheels to sit on and if so are there any recommendations?
>
> Inquiring minds need to know....
>
> Cheers
>
> Les
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=444298#444298


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2015 10:53 am    Post subject: KOSH Parking Reply with quote

Hi Bob

I have flown in to kOSH many times and have never been given a choice. Is there a way to get 18/36 for sure?

Cheers

Les

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On Jul 2, 2015, at 11:58, Bob Leffler <rv(at)thelefflers.com> wrote:



Land on 18/36 and you will have pavement all the way to HBC

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On Jul 2, 2015, at 1:22 PM, Les Kearney <kearney(at)shaw.ca> wrote:



Hmmmm

A long taxi is a bit of a concern. Years ago I have a huge taxi going the other way to GAP. In a PA28 it was a bumpy long taxi. I also had a marshalled almost direct me into a concrete manhole.

Anyway, is there anyway to avoid a long taxi? I was thinking of having both HBP and GAP signs and using whichever was appropriate.

Cheers

Les



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> On Jul 2, 2015, at 09:50, David Leikam <arplnplt(at)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> Les,
>
> Grass has not been a problem for me regarding clearance but, one year I landed RWY 9 and they made me exit left onto the grass.
> Had to taxi a LONG way around the field on grass over small inclines up and over each paved taxi-way intersection to get to show plane parking with the other 10’s.
> Burned up a brake seal and formed a leak due to unavoidably riding the brakes to steer on the grass which was less than smooth.
> Also scratched the bottom of a wheel pant on the edge of a taxi way while climbing over the edge of it.
> (Replaced seals with viton.)
> I live 20 minutes by air from KOSH so if they are landing runway 9 I now drive.
>
> Dave Leikam
>
>> On Jul 2, 2015, at 10:15 AM, kearney <kearney(at)shaw.ca> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi
>>
>> I have a couple of questions for those who have parked at KOSH with -10s. There doesn't seem to be a lost of ground clearance on my wheel pants and am wondering is there is a risk of damage taxing on the uneven grass.
>>
>> When I flew my PA28 in, there wasn't a problem as the bottom of the pants were higher from the ground.
>>
>> As well, I am wondering if there is a problem, for similar reasons, with wheels sinking into the ground, especially after rain. I seem to recall a stuck -10 that had a problem getting out for this reason. Is it worthwhile bringing something for the wheels to sit on and if so are there any recommendations?
>>
>> Inquiring minds need to know....
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Les
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=444298#444298












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PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2015 11:20 am    Post subject: KOSH Parking Reply with quote

I fly in early on Saturday. I've been asked the last two times which runway I preferred. You may not have that opportunity when they're busy.

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On Jul 2, 2015, at 2:31 PM, Les Kearney <kearney(at)shaw.ca> wrote:



Hi Bob

I have flown in to kOSH many times and have never been given a choice. Is there a way to get 18/36 for sure?

Cheers

Les

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Quote:
On Jul 2, 2015, at 11:58, Bob Leffler <rv(at)thelefflers.com> wrote:



Land on 18/36 and you will have pavement all the way to HBC

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 2, 2015, at 1:22 PM, Les Kearney <kearney(at)shaw.ca> wrote:



Hmmmm

A long taxi is a bit of a concern. Years ago I have a huge taxi going the other way to GAP. In a PA28 it was a bumpy long taxi. I also had a marshalled almost direct me into a concrete manhole.

Anyway, is there anyway to avoid a long taxi? I was thinking of having both HBP and GAP signs and using whichever was appropriate.

Cheers

Les



Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 2, 2015, at 09:50, David Leikam <arplnplt(at)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> Les,
>
> Grass has not been a problem for me regarding clearance but, one year I landed RWY 9 and they made me exit left onto the grass.
> Had to taxi a LONG way around the field on grass over small inclines up and over each paved taxi-way intersection to get to show plane parking with the other 10’s.
> Burned up a brake seal and formed a leak due to unavoidably riding the brakes to steer on the grass which was less than smooth.
> Also scratched the bottom of a wheel pant on the edge of a taxi way while climbing over the edge of it.
> (Replaced seals with viton.)
> I live 20 minutes by air from KOSH so if they are landing runway 9 I now drive.
>
> Dave Leikam
>
>> On Jul 2, 2015, at 10:15 AM, kearney <kearney(at)shaw.ca> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi
>>
>> I have a couple of questions for those who have parked at KOSH with -10s. There doesn't seem to be a lost of ground clearance on my wheel pants and am wondering is there is a risk of damage taxing on the uneven grass.
>>
>> When I flew my PA28 in, there wasn't a problem as the bottom of the pants were higher from the ground.
>>
>> As well, I am wondering if there is a problem, for similar reasons, with wheels sinking into the ground, especially after rain. I seem to recall a stuck -10 that had a problem getting out for this reason. Is it worthwhile bringing something for the wheels to sit on and if so are there any recommendations?
>>
>> Inquiring minds need to know....
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Les
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=444298#444298


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2015 7:00 am    Post subject: Re: KOSH Parking Reply with quote

There is an alternative - no pants at all.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2015 8:44 am    Post subject: KOSH Parking Reply with quote

Keep OSH family friendly, do Not remove your pants!

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2015 8:57 am    Post subject: KOSH Parking Reply with quote

Just call them spats.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 27, 2015 9:16 am    Post subject: Re: KOSH Parking Reply with quote

Hi Bob

Thanks for the tip on the plywood squares. When I was parked, my wheels started to sink almost immediately. After I rolled up on the squares the problem was solved.

Cheers

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 27, 2015 9:27 am    Post subject: KOSH Parking Reply with quote

Lesson learned over the years - I also use the same technique on my camping trailer in Camp Scholler!  Glad it all worked out for you.

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Thanks for the tip on the plywood squares. When I was parked, my wheels started to sink almost immediately. After I rolled up on the squares the problem was solved.

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