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Bill Church

Joined: 21 Feb 2008
Posts: 932
Location: Ontario, Canada

Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2016 4:42 am Post subject: Re: FB

Ken,

Good to hear that you're making good progress with the repairs.

Now for a couple of serious questions:



1) How will you seal the balsa wood airbox?



2) In the photo, how did you get the dog to stick to the wall like that?



Bill C.

boyerjrb(at)comcast.net
Guest

Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2016 5:46 am Post subject: FB

Hi Ken,



Really glad to see you making such good progress. I thought your Piet was one of the most beautiful I have seen and nice to see it close to flying again. Was really sorry to see the first flight pictures.



Jim B.

AircamperN11MS

Joined: 25 Jun 2010
Posts: 733
Location: Lancaster, Ca

Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2016 5:47 am Post subject: Re: FB

Hi Bill,



I can answer your questions.  It's clearly visible to me.  He used T-88 to seal the airbox and Velcro to hold the dog to the wall.  I do that to my dog all the time.

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Flying N11MS since March 1972
Steel Tube
C-85-12
Wire Wheels
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Bill Church

Joined: 21 Feb 2008
Posts: 932
Location: Ontario, Canada

Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2016 6:36 pm Post subject: Re: FB

Scott,

You have very good eyes.  Can you see the air in the brake lines too?



Bill C.

bickers.ken(at)gmail.com
Guest

Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2016 7:45 pm Post subject: FB

So Bill, 



You're on the right track.  My hope was that by having the fuselage on the side of the wall the air would bubble out of the brake lines on its own.  If that doesn't do it, it may be necessary to work on it while standing inverted from the ceiling.  Maybe I'll try that in the next picture I attach to an email.

Ken

On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 8:36 PM, Bill Church <billspiet(at)sympatico.ca (billspiet(at)sympatico.ca)> wrote:

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 Scott,

 You have very good eyes.  Can you see the air in the brake lines too?

 

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john francis

Joined: 06 Jun 2010
Posts: 421
Location: Russia, OH

Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2016 3:57 am Post subject: Re: FB

 	  douwe(at)douwestudios.com wrote: 	
		  I resisted going to the FB group for a long time, but a couple of years back, the tone of this group degenerated radically and got real negative because of a few people and this group shrank to almost nothing.  I stayed on, but really missed seeing people’s projects and hearing about their progress etc so I went over to the dark side.

 

Seems like those people have moved on now that the damage is done, but there used to be 20-30 posts a day from fun stuff to technical stuff and without this group I wouldn’t have been able to build my plane.  It’s a shame, but I don’t see it coming back though I still lurk.

 

Douwe 	




Douwe,



I have 2 reasons for not posting as often as I used to.  The first is that I have had a slow down in my progress do to family matters taking precedence.  The second is me becoming more timid to ask questions because a couple of people would scold you for not searching the archives first.  The archives are very useful but they sure take the fun and camaraderie out of discussing your project with other builders.  I belong to an RV (campers) forum and most of the questions are from newcomers.  They are very repetitive but give us an opportunity to reach out and help them.  I made a few very good friends this way.  Sending them to the archives would not of produced the same results.



John

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John Francis

pweeden

Joined: 24 Feb 2015
Posts: 7

Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2017 4:57 pm Post subject: Re: FB

Hi All,



Picking up the discussion here about this list versus the Facebook group...



A group of us at Brodhead Airport have agreed to take over responsibility of the Brodhead Pietenpol Association, beginning this week. As part of that handover, we are creating a new BPA website and I would like to know people's thoughts on having a Builder's Forum there. It would be an updated version of this list's software and I have asked permission from Matronics to use the entirety of this list's content in an archive on our site, so it is searchable.



You can check it out here:

http://www.pietenpols.org

...Click on Builder's Forum.



Pat Weeden

jboatri(at)emory.edu
Guest

Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2017 5:35 pm Post subject: FB

Hey Pat,



I am all for it. I’m not anti-FB, but I it’s not my first choice for this type of activity.



Thank you for taking the lead on this and thanks for asking,



Jeff



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Jeffrey H. Boatright, PhD, FARVO

Professor of Ophthalmology

Emory University School of Medicine

Core Director & Research Biologist

Atlanta VAMC Center for Visual & Neurocognitive Rehabilitation

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vk3eka(at)bigpond.net.au
Guest

Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2017 6:25 pm Post subject: FB

Hi Guys,



Is Matt closing the Piet List?



Cheers



Peter



On 22/2/17, 12:34 pm, "Boatright, Jeffrey" <owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com on behalf of jboatri(at)emory.edu> wrote:



    

    

    Hey Pat,

    

    I am all for it. I’m not anti-FB, but I it’s not my first choice for this type of activity.

    

    Thank you for taking the lead on this and thanks for asking,

    

    Jeff

    

    --

    Jeffrey H. Boatright, PhD, FARVO

    Professor of Ophthalmology

    Emory University School of Medicine

    Core Director & Research Biologist

    Atlanta VAMC Center for Visual & Neurocognitive Rehabilitation

    

    

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steven.d.dortch(at)gmail.
Guest

Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2017 7:02 pm Post subject: FB

Can we get a prod on discussions? I learned a lot of things from the

Matronics list just by lurking.



On Feb 21, 2017 8:27 PM, "Peter Johnson" <vk3eka(at)bigpond.net.au> wrote:



[quote] 

 >



 Hi Guys,



 Is Matt closing the Piet List?



 Cheers



 Peter



 On 22/2/17, 12:34 pm, "Boatright, Jeffrey" <owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)

 matronics.com on behalf of jboatri(at)emory.edu> wrote:



     

 jboatri(at)emory.edu>



     Hey Pat,



     I am all for it. I’m not anti-FB, but I it’s not my first choice for

 this type of activity.



     Thank you for taking the lead on this and thanks for asking,



     Jeff



     --

     Jeffrey H. Boatright, PhD, FARVO

     Professor of Ophthalmology

     Emory University School of Medicine

     Core Director & Research Biologist

     Atlanta VAMC Center for Visual & Neurocognitive Rehabilitation

     --

WannaPiet

Joined: 26 Jan 2012
Posts: 42
Location: Japan

Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2017 4:10 am Post subject: FB

Hi Pat,



It sounds like a good idea to me. I am on both this and the FB Piet pages.

I say if it helps people out, then it's a good idea.

Best of luck with it!



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From: "pweeden" <pweeden(at)weedengraphics.com>

Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2017 9:57 AM

To: <pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com>

Subject: Re: FB



 	  Quote: 	
		   

 <pweeden(at)weedengraphics.com>



 Hi All,



 Picking up the discussion here about this list versus the Facebook 

 group...



 A group of us at Brodhead Airport have agreed to take over responsibility 

 of the Brodhead Pietenpol Association, beginning this week. As part of 

 that handover, we are creating a new BPA website and I would like to know 

 people's thoughts on having a Builder's Forum there. It would be an 

 updated version of this list's software and I have asked permission from 

 Matronics to use the entirety of this list's content in an archive on our 

 site, so it is searchable.



 You can check it out here:

 http://www.pietenpols.org

 ...Click on Builder's Forum.



 Pat Weeden





 Read this topic online here:



 http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=466472#466472

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Fly a Piet a day, keep the doctor away

Brian.Jardine(at)Plexus.c
Guest

Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2017 7:18 am Post subject: FB

I support both FB and the Matronics Piet forums, I get benefits from both.



Brian

Meridian, ID



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steven.d.dortch(at)gmail.
Guest

Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2017 7:29 am Post subject: FB

Perhaps any site should include prominent links to FB and matronics!



I support what y'all are trying to do.

On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 9:16 AM, Brian Jardine <Brian.Jardine(at)plexus.com>

wrote:



[quote] 

 Brian.Jardine(at)plexus.com>



 I support both FB and the Matronics Piet forums, I get benefits from both

WannaPiet

Joined: 26 Jan 2012
Posts: 42
Location: Japan

Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2017 8:08 am Post subject: FB

Hi Pat,

  

 I think Steve's idea of having prominent links to both  sites is a good idea, after all, we all like the same plane.

  

 Both FB and Matronics have their pro's and  cons, however, I think that in this day and age, the FB page reaches allot more  people around the world, spreading the good word about Piet's, which has to be a  good thing right? 

  

 As for me, I like the idea of utilizing all of the  information, pics etc that are available on both sites. 

 I do however really like the archives list on Matronics,  that is the one thing that FB lacks. 

 If the new BPA site can have a mix of both, that would  be very good. 

  

 Thanks

 Mark Stanley

 Japan

  

  



  From: Steven Dortch (steven.d.dortch(at)gmail.com) 

 Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 12:29 AM

 To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com (pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com)  

 Subject: Re: Re: FB

 



  Perhaps any site should include prominent links to FB and  matronics!

I support what y'all are trying to do.

 

 On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 9:16 AM, Brian Jardine <Brian.Jardine(at)plexus.com (Brian.Jardine(at)plexus.com)> wrote:

 [quote]-->    Pietenpol-List message posted by: Brian Jardine <Brian.Jardine(at)plexus.com (Brian.Jardine(at)plexus.com)>



I    support both FB and the Matronics Piet forums, I get benefits from    both.



Brian

Meridian, ID



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Ray Krause

Joined: 09 Oct 2013
Posts: 453

Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2017 8:51 am Post subject: FB

I'm all for this! Especially including the BPA newsletter. It has been frustrating because I've subscribed, but never received the letter.  Also, FB is too difficult,  too limited and subjects me to too many unwanted interruptions/contacts/ ads.

Thanks for doing this,

Ray Krause

Building SkyScout

Sent from my iPad

[quote] On Feb 22, 2017, at 8:07 AM, M W Stanley <mmrally(at)nifty.com> wrote:

 Hi Pat,

 I think Steve's idea of having prominent links to both sites is a good idea, after all, we all like the same plane.

 Both FB and Matronics have their pro's and cons, however, I think that in this day and age, the FB page reaches allot more people around the world, spreading the good word about Piet's, which has to be a good thing right? 

 As for me, I like the idea of utilizing all of the information, pics etc that are available on both sites.

 I do however really like the archives list on Matronics, that is the one thing that FB lacks.

 If the new BPA site can have a mix of both, that would be very good.

 Thanks

 Mark Stanley

 Japan

 From: Steven Dortch

 Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 12:29 AM

 To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com

 Subject: Re: Re: FB

 Perhaps any site should include prominent links to FB and matronics!

 I support what y'all are trying to do.

> On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 9:16 AM, Brian Jardine <Brian.Jardine(at)plexus.com> wrote:

> 

> 

> I support both FB and the Matronics Piet forums, I get benefits from both

at7000ft

Joined: 14 Apr 2006
Posts: 1109
Location: Colorado

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 8:15 am Post subject: Re: FB

Great new forum software Pat (and free), would be ideal if the Matronics Piet content could be moved over  to it (may be a bit of work to move though).



RH

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Rick Holland
NX6819Z

TriScout

Joined: 20 Apr 2009
Posts: 178

Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2017 8:09 am Post subject: Re: FB

come to think of it, ever since the newsletter went away, I can't remember if I'm a current member of BPA anymore. I would subscribe every year because I liked when the newsletter would appear in the mail

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A65-8
N2308C
Slick 4330's
AN Hardware
Airframe 780TT
W72CK-42 Sensenich
Standard Factory GN-1

taildrags

Joined: 29 Dec 2009
Posts: 1682
Location: Medford, OR

Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2017 4:51 pm Post subject: Re: FB

By the way: I just noticed that this thread, which began July of 2016 with a post by Douwe, morphed into a progress update by Ken Bickers of the rebuild of his damaged Air Camper (and the discussion of how he got his dog attached to the wall in the picture), is showing that it has had over 2000 views since then.  I guess this is an indication of how much interest there is in expanding the Pieten-world into social media and friendlier user-group interfaces.



Don't get me wrong, though... I still love it when I open the mailbox and a printed BPA Newsletter is there.  I realize that the days of print newsletters are rapidly fading and that they are a lot more work than e-newsletters.

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Medford, OR
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
A75 power, 72x36 Culver prop

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