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fschlafly(at)sprynet.com
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Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2017 11:53 am Post subject: Yak-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 03/14/17

My 1995 YAK-52 is for sale. Contact me off list for further information.



Fred Schlafly

fschlafly(at)sprynet.com

Miami, FL

On 3/15/17, 3:04 AM, "yak-list" <yak-list(at)matronics.com> wrote:



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    Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive

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 Today's complete Yak-List Digest can also be found in either of the

 two Web Links listed below.  The .html file includes the Digest formatted

 in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes

 and Message Navigation.  The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version

 of the Yak-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor

 such as Notepad or with a web browser.

 

 HTML Version:

 

     

 http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=html&Chapter=2

 017-03-14&Archive=Yak

 

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 http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=txt&Chapter 

 17-03-14&Archive=Yak

 

 

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                      Total Messages Posted Tue 03/14/17: 2

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 Today's Message Index:

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      1. 03:05 AM - Re: Re: M-14P TBO  (Richard Goode)

      2. 12:27 PM - CJ-6 MLG Jacks  (n38139)

  

  

  

 ________________________________  Message 1

 _____________________________________

 

 

 Time: 03:05:14 AM PST US

 From: "Richard Goode" <richard.goode(at)russianaeros.com>

 Subject: RE: Re: M-14P TBO

 

 

 I have had a look through our files for original OKBM lifetime statement.

 However, after 30 years of dealing in these engines, and the Russian

 keenness for paperwork we literally have thousands of pages in our archives

 and I couldn't immediately find it without spending a lot of time. However,

 surely these hours, whether over- conservative or not, are so widely known,

 and indeed I suspect the only interest people have is to increase the

 permitted hours in those countries where they have to be followed.

 

 Unless things have changed significantly at Shakty, I am sceptical of the

 quality of work coming out of any Russian factory. Over the years, I have

 visited all the factories - OKBM; Voronezh Manufacturing Plant; Veenitsa;

 Shakty, and the common problems they all have today are that they are

 under-funded; occupying large and very expensive to run factories as well as

 being very short of parts. In particular Voronezh, which was the central

 source of spare parts, sold everything related to M 14 engines last year.

 

 You're lucky if you can operate your engines on condition - in Europe we

 have to follow the strict manufacturers figures - mind you I'm always rather

 sceptical of the hours in the aircraft logbooks of private owners!

 

 We have had similar problems in Europe in that we had been using a "Mickey

 Mouse" Russian registration which, about 14 years ago the various European

 authorities declared (and quite correctly) as being illegal. Effectively

 this would have grounded most Yaks and Sukhois in Europe. Fortunately I had

 a friend running certification at EASA and he created a completely

 artificial category of "restricted certification" for all Sukhois; Yak

 18T/54/55. I suspect that is where your authorities have come up with your

 legislation. Then the non-certified aircraft like 50; 52 were left for the

 individual national authorities to decide whether to accept them or not, and

 the majority of countries don't accept them, although in a number of cases

 they will accept the aircraft if they have some form of restricted or

 experimental registration from another country - a total lack of

 coordination.

 

 Richard Goode Aerobatics

 Rhodds Farm

 Lyonshall

 Hereford

 HR5 3LW

 

 Tel:  +44 (0) 1544 340120

 Fax: +44 (0) 1544 340129

 www.russianaeros.com

 

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fschlafly(at)sprynet.com
Guest

Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2017 12:34 pm Post subject: Yak-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 03/14/17

My 1995 YAK-52 is for sale. Please contact me off list for more information.



Fred Schlafly

fschlafly(at)sprynet.com

Miami, FL

On 3/15/17, 3:04 AM, "yak-list" <yak-list(at)matronics.com> wrote:



[quote] *

 

  ==================================================

    Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive

  ==================================================

 

 Today's complete Yak-List Digest can also be found in either of the

 two Web Links listed below.  The .html file includes the Digest formatted

 in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes

 and Message Navigation.  The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version

 of the Yak-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor

 such as Notepad or with a web browser.

 

 HTML Version:

 

     

 http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=html&Chapter=2

 017-03-14&Archive=Yak

 

 Text Version:

 

     

 http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=txt&Chapter 

 17-03-14&Archive=Yak

 

 

  ================================================

    EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive

  ================================================

 

  

            ----------------------------------------------------------

                            Yak-List Digest Archive

                                       ---

                      Total Messages Posted Tue 03/14/17: 2

            ----------------------------------------------------------

  

  

 Today's Message Index:

 ----------------------

  

      1. 03:05 AM - Re: Re: M-14P TBO  (Richard Goode)

      2. 12:27 PM - CJ-6 MLG Jacks  (n38139)

  

  

  

 ________________________________  Message 1

 _____________________________________

 

 

 Time: 03:05:14 AM PST US

 From: "Richard Goode" <richard.goode(at)russianaeros.com>

 Subject: RE: Re: M-14P TBO

 

 

 I have had a look through our files for original OKBM lifetime statement.

 However, after 30 years of dealing in these engines, and the Russian

 keenness for paperwork we literally have thousands of pages in our archives

 and I couldn't immediately find it without spending a lot of time. However,

 surely these hours, whether over- conservative or not, are so widely known,

 and indeed I suspect the only interest people have is to increase the

 permitted hours in those countries where they have to be followed.

 

 Unless things have changed significantly at Shakty, I am sceptical of the

 quality of work coming out of any Russian factory. Over the years, I have

 visited all the factories - OKBM; Voronezh Manufacturing Plant; Veenitsa;

 Shakty, and the common problems they all have today are that they are

 under-funded; occupying large and very expensive to run factories as well as

 being very short of parts. In particular Voronezh, which was the central

 source of spare parts, sold everything related to M 14 engines last year.

 

 You're lucky if you can operate your engines on condition - in Europe we

 have to follow the strict manufacturers figures - mind you I'm always rather

 sceptical of the hours in the aircraft logbooks of private owners!

 

 We have had similar problems in Europe in that we had been using a "Mickey

 Mouse" Russian registration which, about 14 years ago the various European

 authorities declared (and quite correctly) as being illegal. Effectively

 this would have grounded most Yaks and Sukhois in Europe. Fortunately I had

 a friend running certification at EASA and he created a completely

 artificial category of "restricted certification" for all Sukhois; Yak

 18T/54/55. I suspect that is where your authorities have come up with your

 legislation. Then the non-certified aircraft like 50; 52 were left for the

 individual national authorities to decide whether to accept them or not, and

 the majority of countries don't accept them, although in a number of cases

 they will accept the aircraft if they have some form of restricted or

 experimental registration from another country - a total lack of

 coordination.

 

 Richard Goode Aerobatics

 Rhodds Farm

 Lyonshall

 Hereford

 HR5 3LW

 

 Tel:  +44 (0) 1544 340120

 Fax: +44 (0) 1544 340129

 www.russianaeros.com

 

 --

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