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PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 5:50 pm    Post subject: Door seals Reply with quote

I have the stock Van’s door seals on my bird, and they are not starting to fail on me after 10 years.

Have any of you on the list found a good door seal for the -10?

Thanks - grumpy
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 6:40 pm    Post subject: Door seals Reply with quote

I used what I think was a piper seal. Just a little square piece of memory foam on the edge of the door. I have been flying since 2008, worked good for me.

I will try to find a reference. It would be best if you could find the material elsewhere like mcmaster carr . The ones I got were certified and cost a lot for what they are.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 7:01 pm    Post subject: Door seals Reply with quote

https://www.aircraftdoorseals.com/products/rv-experimental/

A little pricy. I attached to the door and not the frame. Right on the edge.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 7:51 pm    Post subject: Door seals Reply with quote

I will second that recommendation. Does not require special modification
of door sill, can be made to work with uneven surfaces. Durable on the
doors, not so much if put on the frame.

On 3/8/2017 8:00 PM, Rene Felker wrote:
[quote]

https://www.aircraftdoorseals.com/products/rv-experimental/

A little pricy. I attached to the door and not the frame. Right on the edge.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2017 3:12 am    Post subject: Door seals Reply with quote

How does it seal at the door hinge?
Alan

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[quote] On Mar 8, 2017, at 10:50 PM, Kelly McMullen <kellym(at)aviating.com> wrote:



I will second that recommendation. Does not require special modification of door sill, can be made to work with uneven surfaces. Durable on the doors, not so much if put on the frame.

> On 3/8/2017 8:00 PM, Rene Felker wrote:
>
>
> https://www.aircraftdoorseals.com/products/rv-experimental/
>
> A little pricy. I attached to the door and not the frame. Right on the edge.
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Kellym



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2017 3:24 am    Post subject: Door seals Reply with quote

You have to make a cover for the hinge to provide a flat sealing
surface. Easily done with scrap fiberglass or aluminum.

On 3/9/2017 4:11 AM, Alan Mekler MD wrote:
[quote]

How does it seal at the door hinge?
Alan

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> On Mar 8, 2017, at 10:50 PM, Kelly McMullen <kellym(at)aviating.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> I will second that recommendation. Does not require special modification of door sill, can be made to work with uneven surfaces. Durable on the doors, not so much if put on the frame.
>
>> On 3/8/2017 8:00 PM, Rene Felker wrote:
>>
>>
>> https://www.aircraftdoorseals.com/products/rv-experimental/
>>
>> A little pricy. I attached to the door and not the frame. Right on the edge.
>>
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2017 3:36 am    Post subject: Door seals Reply with quote

Can you send me a photo?
Alan

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[quote] On Mar 9, 2017, at 6:24 AM, Kelly McMullen <kellym(at)aviating.com> wrote:



You have to make a cover for the hinge to provide a flat sealing surface. Easily done with scrap fiberglass or aluminum.

> On 3/9/2017 4:11 AM, Alan Mekler MD wrote:
>
>
> How does it seal at the door hinge?
> Alan
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Mar 8, 2017, at 10:50 PM, Kelly McMullen <kellym(at)aviating.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> I will second that recommendation. Does not require special modification of door sill, can be made to work with uneven surfaces. Durable on the doors, not so much if put on the frame.
>>
>>> On 3/8/2017 8:00 PM, Rene Felker wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.aircraftdoorseals.com/products/rv-experimental/
>>>
>>> A little pricy. I attached to the door and not the frame. Right on the edge.
>>>
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Kellym



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2017 4:42 am    Post subject: Door seals Reply with quote

Will do.
You got me to thinking. I have the door seals on the door for my other
aircraft, but on the RV-10 there was not enough lip available, so I do
have the seal on the frame.
Kelly

On 3/9/2017 4:35 AM, Alan Mekler MD wrote:
[quote]

Can you send me a photo?
Alan

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> On Mar 9, 2017, at 6:24 AM, Kelly McMullen <kellym(at)aviating.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> You have to make a cover for the hinge to provide a flat sealing surface. Easily done with scrap fiberglass or aluminum.
>
>> On 3/9/2017 4:11 AM, Alan Mekler MD wrote:
>>
>>
>> How does it seal at the door hinge?
>> Alan
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Mar 8, 2017, at 10:50 PM, Kelly McMullen <kellym(at)aviating.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I will second that recommendation. Does not require special modification of door sill, can be made to work with uneven surfaces. Durable on the doors, not so much if put on the frame.
>>>
>>>> On 3/8/2017 8:00 PM, Rene Felker wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://www.aircraftdoorseals.com/products/rv-experimental/
>>>>
>>>> A little pricy. I attached to the door and not the frame. Right on the edge.
>>>>
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2017 5:04 am    Post subject: Door seals Reply with quote

Thanks to all.

I, too, would like to see a picture for the hinge area.

How does the seal stick to the door? Their website does not say much about installation and their website shows the seal mounted to the frame, not the door.

grumpy

[quote] On Mar 9, 2017, at 6:40 AM, Kelly McMullen <kellym(at)aviating.com> wrote:



Will do.
You got me to thinking. I have the door seals on the door for my other aircraft, but on the RV-10 there was not enough lip available, so I do have the seal on the frame.
Kelly

On 3/9/2017 4:35 AM, Alan Mekler MD wrote:
>
>
> Can you send me a photo?
> Alan
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Mar 9, 2017, at 6:24 AM, Kelly McMullen <kellym(at)aviating.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> You have to make a cover for the hinge to provide a flat sealing surface. Easily done with scrap fiberglass or aluminum.
>>
>>> On 3/9/2017 4:11 AM, Alan Mekler MD wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> How does it seal at the door hinge?
>>> Alan
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>> On Mar 8, 2017, at 10:50 PM, Kelly McMullen <kellym(at)aviating.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I will second that recommendation. Does not require special modification of door sill, can be made to work with uneven surfaces. Durable on the doors, not so much if put on the frame.
>>>>
>>>>> On 3/8/2017 8:00 PM, Rene Felker wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.aircraftdoorseals.com/products/rv-experimental/
>>>>>
>>>>> A little pricy. I attached to the door and not the frame. Right on the edge.
>>>>>
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Kellym



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2017 5:20 am    Post subject: Door seals Reply with quote

See previous reply, my seal is in fact on the frame. picture attached

On 3/9/2017 6:03 AM, John Miller wrote:
[quote]

Thanks to all.

I, too, would like to see a picture for the hinge area.

How does the seal stick to the door? Their website does not say much about installation and their website shows the seal mounted to the frame, not the door.

grumpy

> On Mar 9, 2017, at 6:40 AM, Kelly McMullen <kellym(at)aviating.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> Will do.
> You got me to thinking. I have the door seals on the door for my other aircraft, but on the RV-10 there was not enough lip available, so I do have the seal on the frame.
> Kelly
>
> On 3/9/2017 4:35 AM, Alan Mekler MD wrote:
>>
>>
>> Can you send me a photo?
>> Alan
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Mar 9, 2017, at 6:24 AM, Kelly McMullen <kellym(at)aviating.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> You have to make a cover for the hinge to provide a flat sealing surface. Easily done with scrap fiberglass or aluminum.
>>>
>>>> On 3/9/2017 4:11 AM, Alan Mekler MD wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> How does it seal at the door hinge?
>>>> Alan
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>>> On Mar 8, 2017, at 10:50 PM, Kelly McMullen <kellym(at)aviating.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I will second that recommendation. Does not require special modification of door sill, can be made to work with uneven surfaces. Durable on the doors, not so much if put on the frame.
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 3/8/2017 8:00 PM, Rene Felker wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.aircraftdoorseals.com/products/rv-experimental/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A little pricy. I attached to the door and not the frame. Right on the edge.
>>>>>>
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2017 5:54 am    Post subject: Door seals Reply with quote

I will be at the airport tonight......will take a picture.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2017 6:04 am    Post subject: Door seals Reply with quote

The picture in their web site shows it on the frame
Alan

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[quote] On Mar 9, 2017, at 7:40 AM, Kelly McMullen <kellym(at)aviating.com> wrote:



Will do.
You got me to thinking. I have the door seals on the door for my other aircraft, but on the RV-10 there was not enough lip available, so I do have the seal on the frame.
Kelly

> On 3/9/2017 4:35 AM, Alan Mekler MD wrote:
>
>
> Can you send me a photo?
> Alan
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Mar 9, 2017, at 6:24 AM, Kelly McMullen <kellym(at)aviating.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> You have to make a cover for the hinge to provide a flat sealing surface. Easily done with scrap fiberglass or aluminum.
>>
>>> On 3/9/2017 4:11 AM, Alan Mekler MD wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> How does it seal at the door hinge?
>>> Alan
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>> On Mar 8, 2017, at 10:50 PM, Kelly McMullen <kellym(at)aviating.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I will second that recommendation. Does not require special modification of door sill, can be made to work with uneven surfaces. Durable on the doors, not so much if put on the frame.
>>>>
>>>>> On 3/8/2017 8:00 PM, Rene Felker wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.aircraftdoorseals.com/products/rv-experimental/
>>>>>
>>>>> A little pricy. I attached to the door and not the frame. Right on the edge.
>>>>>
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2017 7:17 am    Post subject: Door seals Reply with quote

Simple to install and works well. Self adhesive seals from McMaster. Five years of service with no issue.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 11:58 am    Post subject: Door seals Reply with quote

I use a door seal like yours on my Lancair ES. 10 years since build,
still functioning well (my decible level inside is equal to or less than
many who are using the inflatible seals). Not to mention, mine costs
less than $20.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 26, 2017 8:43 am    Post subject: Door seals Reply with quote

Installed the aircraft door seals on the door last sunday. It took two of use to get the door to close. worse part was getting the silicone adhesive off the door frame. Very slow with a razor blade.
Today took test flight. The door seal compressed and door opens and closes nicely without ant trimming. Seal compresses well.
Only problem is cold air comes in at the top at the hinges. Any ideas hoe wo best block this air flow?
Alan
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I use a door seal like yours on my Lancair ES. 10 years since build,
still functioning well (my decible level inside is equal to or less than
many who are using the inflatible seals). Not to mention, mine costs
less than $20.

Tom

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 26, 2017 12:10 pm    Post subject: Door seals Reply with quote

You have to fabricate a cover over the door hinge at where the door
comes down, so the seal has something to compress against. I used scrap
fiberglass from trimming the window openings. Cut to fit, then bonded
with some super fill.

On 3/26/2017 9:41 AM, Alan Mekler MD wrote:
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Installed the aircraft door seals on the door last sunday. It took two of use to get the door to close. worse part was getting the silicone adhesive off the door frame. Very slow with a razor blade.
Today took test flight. The door seal compressed and door opens and closes nicely without ant trimming. Seal compresses well.
Only problem is cold air comes in at the top at the hinges. Any ideas hoe wo best block this air flow?
Alan
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> On Mar 20, 2017, at 3:56 PM, tom.on.the.road(at)juno.com wrote:
>
>
>
> I use a door seal like yours on my Lancair ES. 10 years since build,
> still functioning well (my decible level inside is equal to or less than
> many who are using the inflatible seals). Not to mention, mine costs
> less than $20.
>
> Tom
>
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