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dlm34077(at)gmail.com
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Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2017 9:16 pm Post subject: hail damage

I parked my aircraft in TX from March 30-April 5 in TX. Very windy arrival and departure. The FBO was asked and agreed to hangar the aircraft if a storm appear eminent. I even called on April 1 to repeat the request since the My Radar app showed a large area of precipitation (yellow/red). Apparently their internal lack of communication failed to get the aircraft inside and hail damage resulted. Because of the very inclement departure I did not notice the damage and it was not discovered until April 16. Primary damage is to top of control surfaces due to thinner metal. I plan to reskin them; other areas of thicker metal had minor paint marks; even the cowl top had small faint marks in the paint. The aircraft is insured and someone else will probably do the work. Any comments or suggestions? either dealing with the insurance co or techniques to smooth the metal?

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philperry9

Joined: 23 Nov 2011
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Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2017 4:42 am Post subject: hail damage

Sorry to hear about the damage.   That scares me the most about traveling with the plane here in TX.   Which city were you in?



We just replaced a damaged wing control surface on a friends -10.   I'll point out that QB control surfaces are already built and you can order them from Vans individually. 



Phil



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 I parked my aircraft in TX from March 30-April 5 in TX. Very windy arrival and departure. The FBO was asked and agreed to hangar the aircraft if a storm appear eminent. I even called on April 1 to repeat the request since the My Radar app showed a large area of precipitation (yellow/red). Apparently their internal lack of communication failed to get the aircraft inside and hail damage resulted. Because of the very inclement departure I did not notice the damage and it was not discovered until April 16. Primary damage is to top of control surfaces due to thinner metal. I plan to reskin them; other areas of thicker metal had minor paint marks; even the cowl top had small faint marks in the paint. The aircraft is insured and someone else will probably do the work. Any comments or suggestions? either dealing with the insurance co or techniques to smooth the metal?

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Kelly McMullen

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Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2017 5:11 am Post subject: hail damage

Unless they have changed, Vans QB facility uses some sort of squeezer to do the double flush rivets on the trailing edge. It unfortunately dimples the skin on the underside, quite significantly. I exchanged my original set for some that weren't quite as bad. Any conscientious builder can produce better double flush riveted trailing edges.

While there is the aesthetic issue of dimples in the skin, I have never seen them affect the flying qualities, besides reducing drag (VBG). Not sure whether golf balls or hail make better dimples...............Almost all the courtesy airport cars in Texas have hail dents.

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On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 5:41 AM, Phillip Perry <philperry9(at)gmail.com (philperry9(at)gmail.com)> wrote:

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 Sorry to hear about the damage.   That scares me the most about traveling with the plane here in TX.   Which city were you in?

 We just replaced a damaged wing control surface on a friends -10.   I'll point out that QB control surfaces are already built and you can order them from Vans individually.

 Phil

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 > On Apr 18, 2017, at 12:15 AM, dlm <dlm34077(at)gmail.com (dlm34077(at)gmail.com)> wrote:

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 > I parked my aircraft in TX from March 30-April 5 in TX. Very windy arrival and departure. The FBO was asked and agreed to hangar the aircraft if a storm appear eminent. I even called on April 1 to repeat the request since the My Radar app showed a large area of precipitation (yellow/red). Apparently their internal lack of communication failed to get the aircraft inside and hail damage resulted. Because of the very inclement departure I did not notice the damage and it was not discovered until April 16. Primary damage is to top of control surfaces due to thinner metal. I plan to reskin them; other areas of thicker metal had minor paint marks; even the cowl top had small faint marks in the paint. The aircraft is insured and someone else will probably do the work. Any comments or suggestions? either dealing with the insurance co or techniques to smooth the metal?

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Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2017 5:19 am Post subject: hail damage

Another option is to call Wally over at Synergy Air.  They do quick builds for Van's and do impeccable work.  

http://synergyair.com/

Shannon

On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 8:11 AM, Kelly McMullen <apilot2(at)gmail.com (apilot2(at)gmail.com)> wrote:

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		  Unless they have changed, Vans QB facility uses some sort of squeezer to do the double flush rivets on the trailing edge. It unfortunately dimples the skin on the underside, quite significantly. I exchanged my original set for some that weren't quite as bad. Any conscientious builder can produce better double flush riveted trailing edges.

While there is the aesthetic issue of dimples in the skin, I have never seen them affect the flying qualities, besides reducing drag (VBG). Not sure whether golf balls or hail make better dimples..............Almost all the courtesy airport cars in Texas have hail dents.

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On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 5:41 AM, Phillip Perry <philperry9(at)gmail.com (philperry9(at)gmail.com)> wrote:

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 Sorry to hear about the damage.   That scares me the most about traveling with the plane here in TX.   Which city were you in?

 We just replaced a damaged wing control surface on a friends -10.   I'll point out that QB control surfaces are already built and you can order them from Vans individually.

 Phil

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 > On Apr 18, 2017, at 12:15 AM, dlm <dlm34077(at)gmail.com (dlm34077(at)gmail.com)> wrote:

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 > I parked my aircraft in TX from March 30-April 5 in TX. Very windy arrival and departure. The FBO was asked and agreed to hangar the aircraft if a storm appear eminent. I even called on April 1 to repeat the request since the My Radar app showed a large area of precipitation (yellow/red). Apparently their internal lack of communication failed to get the aircraft inside and hail damage resulted. Because of the very inclement departure I did not notice the damage and it was not discovered until April 16. Primary damage is to top of control surfaces due to thinner metal. I plan to reskin them; other areas of thicker metal had minor paint marks; even the cowl top had small faint marks in the paint. The aircraft is insured and someone else will probably do the work. Any comments or suggestions? either dealing with the insurance co or techniques to smooth the metal?

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peter(at)peteraringer.de
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Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2017 7:30 pm Post subject: hail damage

In Germany we use a practice called "Dent-Repair".

The "Dent-Doctor" glue little pulling tools on the dents, and pull the sheet metal with a pulling impact hammer. Or if there is a access hole somewhere, then they entering a long pushing tool to push the dents out. If done properly you cannot see anything from the dents after finished. Sorry for my bad English....



Peter Aringer 

RV-10 build startet 2017-01, finished the VS, started with the HS



Mit freundlichen Grüßen

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dlm34077

Joined: 10 Feb 2007
Posts: 115
Location: AZ

Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2017 3:22 pm Post subject: hail damage

Unfortunately the name of the town and airport is DENTon(KDTO). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmV8-tHFciw  

Note the windsock at the left of the screen at 30 seconds into the video.  

   

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