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PostPosted: Fri Apr 28, 2017 6:26 am    Post subject: Landing Gear problems Reply with quote

After a 2 yearlong battle, trying whatever solution  I could think of or find on the internet, I surrendered and did the obvious, put some dampers on.
It feels strange to land and wait for the big shake, both wheels dancing synchronized back and forward https://youtu.be/p0zAVvPMCIg, and nothing happens.
The whole ground operation feels so much better and stable.
Two gas springs dampers for less than 120$ did the trick.
Stumbled over another method that works 75%, put ˝ a gallon of water in the rear compartment of the wheel fairing.
Does little for light vibrations but sure does cure the big shakeouts by counter phase movement of the water.
All other things such as: tire pressure , balancing, rotating tires, new tires, reinforcement of the legs, adjusting camber- toe angle by elongating cross holes,  where tried in every amount and combination with only temporarily small improvements.
I still do not understand why the problem did start  after two years of flying and not (at) the beginning.
Somehow over time there was a loss of damping in the system.
Now I finally can ship several parts of my avionics that did not survive the shaking for repair and modify the gear leg fairings.

Bart
PH-USN Sept 12, 350 hours.


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 28, 2017 6:52 am    Post subject: Landing Gear problems Reply with quote

Hey Bart,

Nice. Were brakes ruled out as a factor? Warped rotors, dragging pads?

Later, – Lew

From: Bart van Ruth (bart.van.ruth(at)upcmail.nl)
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After a 2 yearlong battle, trying whatever solution I could think of or find on the internet, I surrendered and did the obvious, put some dampers on.
It feels strange to land and wait for the big shake, both wheels dancing synchronized back and forward https://youtu.be/p0zAVvPMCIg, and nothing happens.
The whole ground operation feels so much better and stable.
Two gas springs dampers for less than 120$ did the trick.
Stumbled over another method that works 75%, put ½ a gallon of water in the rear compartment of the wheel fairing.
Does little for light vibrations but sure does cure the big shakeouts by counter phase movement of the water.
All other things such as: tire pressure , balancing, rotating tires, new tires, reinforcement of the legs, adjusting camber- toe angle by elongating cross holes, where tried in every amount and combination with only temporarily small improvements.
I still do not understand why the problem did start after two years of flying and not (at) the beginning.
Somehow over time there was a loss of damping in the system.
Now I finally can ship several parts of my avionics that did not survive the shaking for repair and modify the gear leg fairings.

Bart
PH-USN Sept 12, 350 hours.


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 28, 2017 8:57 am    Post subject: Landing Gear problems Reply with quote

Can post pics of how you mounted the shocks? Thanks!

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On Apr 28, 2017, at 10:02 AM, "lewgall(at)charter.net (lewgall(at)charter.net)" <lewgall(at)charter.net (lewgall(at)charter.net)> wrote:


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Hey Bart,
 
Nice.  Were brakes ruled out as a factor?  Warped rotors, dragging pads?
 
Later, – Lew
 
From: Bart van Ruth (bart.van.ruth(at)upcmail.nl)
Sent: Friday, April 28, 2017 10:24 AM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com (rv10-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: RV10-List: Landing Gear problems


 


After a 2 yearlong battle, trying whatever solution  I could think of or find on the internet, I surrendered and did the obvious, put some dampers on.
It feels strange to land and wait for the big shake, both wheels dancing synchronized back and forward https://youtu.be/p0zAVvPMCIg, and nothing happens.
The whole ground operation feels so much better and stable.
Two gas springs dampers for less than 120$ did the trick.
Stumbled over another method that works 75%, put ½ a gallon of water in the rear compartment of the wheel fairing.
Does little for light vibrations but sure does cure the big shakeouts by counter phase movement of the water.
All other things such as: tire pressure , balancing, rotating tires, new tires, reinforcement of the legs, adjusting camber- toe angle by elongating cross holes,  where tried in every amount and combination with only temporarily small improvements.
I still do not understand why the problem did start  after two years of flying and not (at) the beginning.
Somehow over time there was a loss of damping in the system.
Now I finally can ship several parts of my avionics that did not survive the shaking for repair and modify the gear leg fairings.
 
Bart
PH-USN Sept 12, 350 hours.
 
 






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PostPosted: Fri Apr 28, 2017 5:34 pm    Post subject: Landing Gear problems Reply with quote

Looks like they are mounted to damp up and down motion. I always thought the shimmy motion was fore and aft.

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On Fri, Apr 28, 2017 at 9:56 AM, Danny Riggs <jdriggs49(at)msn.com (jdriggs49(at)msn.com)> wrote:
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Can post pics of how you mounted the shocks? Thanks!

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 28, 2017, at 10:02 AM, "lewgall(at)charter.net (lewgall(at)charter.net)" <lewgall(at)charter.net (lewgall(at)charter.net)> wrote:


Quote:
Hey Bart,
 
Nice.  Were brakes ruled out as a factor?  Warped rotors, dragging pads?
 
Later, – Lew
 
From: Bart van Ruth (bart.van.ruth(at)upcmail.nl)
Sent: Friday, April 28, 2017 10:24 AM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com (rv10-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: Landing Gear problems


 


After a 2 yearlong battle, trying whatever solution  I could think of or find on the internet, I surrendered and did the obvious, put some dampers on.
It feels strange to land and wait for the big shake, both wheels dancing synchronized back and forward https://youtu.be/p0zAVvPMCIg, and nothing happens.
The whole ground operation feels so much better and stable.
Two gas springs dampers for less than 120$ did the trick.
Stumbled over another method that works 75%, put ½ a gallon of water in the rear compartment of the wheel fairing.
Does little for light vibrations but sure does cure the big shakeouts by counter phase movement of the water.
All other things such as: tire pressure , balancing, rotating tires, new tires, reinforcement of the legs, adjusting camber- toe angle by elongating cross holes,  where tried in every amount and combination with only temporarily small improvements.
I still do not understand why the problem did start  after two years of flying and not (at) the beginning.
Somehow over time there was a loss of damping in the system.
Now I finally can ship several parts of my avionics that did not survive the shaking for repair and modify the gear leg fairings.
 
Bart
PH-USN Sept 12, 350 hours.
 
 







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