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art(at)zemon.name
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Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2017 2:53 pm Post subject: Fuse Blocks

Folks,



I need to select fuse blocks for my plane, less than 20 circuits. I found the Littelfuse POWR-BLOCK on Digi-Key and it looks cool but I have to order a zillion pieces to make a complete set of stuff that is ready to go into the plane: fuse blocks, interlocks, mounts, terminals.

Is there an easier way? Something off-the-shelf and maybe available locally? Or should I carefully get together all of the parts that I need and order the POWR-BLOCK from Digi-Key.

Thanks,

Â  Â  -- Art Z.



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https://CheerfulCurmudgeon.com/"If I am not for myself, who is for me? And if I am only for myself, what am I? And if not now, when?" Hillel

JohnCiolino(at)carolina.r
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Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2017 3:36 pm Post subject: Fuse Blocks

There is something simpler. See www.bandc.aero, look under electrical supplies/circuit protection devices/fuse blocks. A 20 circuit block ready to use is $30.

Good luck/

 

John

Bearhawk Patrol

 

From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Art Zemon

Sent: Saturday, August 05, 2017 6:53 PM

To: aeroelectric-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: Fuse Blocks

 

Folks,

 



I need to select fuse blocks for my plane, less than 20 circuits. I found the Littelfuse POWR-BLOCK on Digi-Key and it looks cool but I have to order a zillion pieces to make a complete set of stuff that is ready to go into the plane: fuse blocks, interlocks, mounts, terminals.



 



Is there an easier way? Something off-the-shelf and maybe available locally? Or should I carefully get together all of the parts that I need and order the POWR-BLOCK from Digi-Key.



 



Thanks,



    -- Art Z.

 



-- 

https://CheerfulCurmudgeon.com/



"If I am not for myself, who is for me? And if I am only for myself, what am I? And if not now, when?" Hillel

kjashton(at)vnet.net
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Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2017 3:51 pm Post subject: Fuse Blocks

Something like this can fit right on your panel

http://www.cooperindustries.com/content/public/en/bussmann/transportation/products/power_distribution/fuse_panels/series_15710_rearterminalatcfusepanel.html



Or do a google images search for â€œATC fuse blocksâ€ and youâ€™ll see many other styles.  Some are available at auto parts stores.  I have used the 20 gang version

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-Bussmann-15600-18-20-18-Position-ATC-Fuse-Panel-Block-RV-Trailer-Boat-Solar/272378729318



and also used 12 gang and 8 gang models to set up a main and essential bus.



With the 20 position version, it is also possible to cut the center conductor, silver soldered a extra tab on the end and made a main/essential bus out set up out of it. 

-Kent



 	  Quote: 	
		   On Aug 5, 2017, at 6:53 PM, Art Zemon <art(at)zemon.name> wrote:

 

 Folks,

 

 I need to select fuse blocks for my plane, less than 20 circuits. I found the Littelfuse POWR-BLOCK on Digi-Key and it looks cool but I have to order a zillion pieces to make a complete set of stuff that is ready to go into the plane: fuse blocks, interlocks, mounts, terminals.

 

 Is there an easier way? Something off-the-shelf and maybe available locally? Or should I carefully get together all of the parts that I need and order the POWR-BLOCK from Digi-Key.

 

 Thanks,

     -- Art Z.

 

 -- 

 https://CheerfulCurmudgeon.com/

 

 "If I am not for myself, who is for me? And if I am only for myself, what am I? And if not now, when?" Hillel

art(at)zemon.name
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Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2017 3:58 pm Post subject: Fuse Blocks

That's exactly what I need! Thanks.



Â Â Â  -- Art Z.



Sent from my phone. Please excuse brevity and bizarre typos.



On Aug 5, 2017 6:54 PM, "John Ciolino" <JohnCiolino(at)carolina.rr.com (JohnCiolino(at)carolina.rr.com)> wrote: 	  Quote: 	
		  

There is something simpler. See www.bandc.aero, look under electrical supplies/circuit protection devices/fuse blocks. A 20 circuit block ready to use is $30.

Good luck/

ronburnett(at)charter.net
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Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2017 4:17 pm Post subject: Fuse Blocks

Art,

I got mine at West Marine.

Ron Burnett



May you have the Lord's blessings today!Sent from my iPad

On Aug 5, 2017, at 6:57 PM, Art Zemon <art(at)zemon.name (art(at)zemon.name)> wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		  That's exactly what I need! Thanks.



    -- Art Z.



Sent from my phone. Please excuse brevity and bizarre typos.



On Aug 5, 2017 6:54 PM, "John Ciolino" <JohnCiolino(at)carolina.rr.com (JohnCiolino(at)carolina.rr.com)> wrote: 	  Quote: 	
		  

There is something simpler. See www.bandc.aero, look under electrical supplies/circuit protection devices/fuse blocks. A 20 circuit block ready to use is $30.

Good luck/

stuart(at)stuarthutchison
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Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2017 8:32 pm Post subject: Fuse Blocks

SteinAir has everything - http://www.steinair.com/?search_category=&s=fuse&search_posttype=product

Cheers, Stu

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		  On 6 Aug 2017, at 10:16, Ron Burnett <ronburnett(at)charter.net (ronburnett(at)charter.net)> wrote:

 Art,



I got mine at West Marine.



Ron BurnettMay you have the Lord's blessings today!Sent from my iPad



On Aug 5, 2017, at 6:57 PM, Art Zemon <art(at)zemon.name (art(at)zemon.name)> wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		  That's exactly what I need! Thanks.    -- Art Z.Sent from my phone. Please excuse brevity and bizarre typos.

On Aug 5, 2017 6:54 PM, "John Ciolino" <JohnCiolino(at)carolina.rr.com (JohnCiolino(at)carolina.rr.com)> wrote: 	  Quote: 	
		  

There is something simpler. See www.bandc.aero, look under electrical supplies/circuit protection devices/fuse blocks. A 20 circuit block ready to use is $30.

Good luck/

JOHN TIPTON

Joined: 17 Sep 2006
Posts: 239
Location: Torquay - England

Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2017 10:26 pm Post subject: Fuse Blocks

"SteinAir has everything" - apparently not: they don't seem to to the 16 and 20 fuse sizes !!!



Sent from my iPad



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On 6 Aug 2017, at 05:31 am, Stuart Hutchison <stuart(at)stuarthutchison.com.au (stuart(at)stuarthutchison.com.au)> wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		  SteinAir has everything - http://www.steinair.com/?search_category=&s=fuse&search_posttype=product

Cheers, Stu

 	  Quote: 	
		  On 6 Aug 2017, at 10:16, Ron Burnett <ronburnett(at)charter.net (ronburnett(at)charter.net)> wrote:

 Art,



I got mine at West Marine.



Ron BurnettMay you have the Lord's blessings today!Sent from my iPad



On Aug 5, 2017, at 6:57 PM, Art Zemon <art(at)zemon.name (art(at)zemon.name)> wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		  That's exactly what I need! Thanks.    -- Art Z.Sent from my phone. Please excuse brevity and bizarre typos.

On Aug 5, 2017 6:54 PM, "John Ciolino" <JohnCiolino(at)carolina.rr.com (JohnCiolino(at)carolina.rr.com)> wrote: 	  Quote: 	
		  

There is something simpler. See www.bandc.aero, look under electrical supplies/circuit protection devices/fuse blocks. A 20 circuit block ready to use is $30.

Good luck/

stuart(at)stuarthutchison
Guest

Posted: Sun Aug 06, 2017 12:12 am Post subject: Fuse Blocks

Sure, but two 12s = 24 â€¦ more than enough 

 	  Quote: 	
		  On 6 Aug 2017, at 16:25, John Tipton <jmtipton(at)btopenworld.com (jmtipton(at)btopenworld.com)> wrote:

 "SteinAir has everything" - apparently not: they don't seem to to the 16 and 20 fuse sizes !!!Sent from my iPad

     ----x--O--x----



On 6 Aug 2017, at 05:31 am, Stuart Hutchison <stuart(at)stuarthutchison.com.au (stuart(at)stuarthutchison.com.au)> wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		  SteinAir has everything - http://www.steinair.com/?search_category=&s=fuse&search_posttype=product

Cheers, Stu

 	  Quote: 	
		  On 6 Aug 2017, at 10:16, Ron Burnett <ronburnett(at)charter.net (ronburnett(at)charter.net)> wrote:

 Art,



I got mine at West Marine.



Ron BurnettMay you have the Lord's blessings today!Sent from my iPad



On Aug 5, 2017, at 6:57 PM, Art Zemon <art(at)zemon.name (art(at)zemon.name)> wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		  That's exactly what I need! Thanks.    -- Art Z.Sent from my phone. Please excuse brevity and bizarre typos.

On Aug 5, 2017 6:54 PM, "John Ciolino" <JohnCiolino(at)carolina.rr.com (JohnCiolino(at)carolina.rr.com)> wrote: 	  Quote: 	
		  

There is something simpler. See www.bandc.aero, look under electrical supplies/circuit protection devices/fuse blocks. A 20 circuit block ready to use is $30.

Good luck/

art(at)zemon.name
Guest

Posted: Sun Aug 06, 2017 1:39 am Post subject: Fuse Blocks

Perfect! I'll drive over soon. Nice 'n' convenient and I can support the local economy with my huge purchase 



Thanks, Ron.

Â  Â  -- Art Z.



On Sat, Aug 5, 2017 at 7:16 PM, Ron Burnett <ronburnett(at)charter.net (ronburnett(at)charter.net)> wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		  Art,

I got mine at West Marine.



	


-- 

https://CheerfulCurmudgeon.com/"If I am not for myself, who is for me? And if I am only for myself, what am I? And if not now, when?" Hillel

Mauledriver(at)nc.rr.com
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Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2017 8:13 am Post subject: Fuse Blocks

That's what I used and here are some       pics of the mounting.Â  I have a Z-14 design (2 batts, buses, alts)       so each fuse block is on a different side.Â  I should have just put       2 big ones in - handy for loading balancing later when the truth       becomes evident.

       

       Fuse         Blocks - Mounted

       

       I ordered my interior side panel with 2 cutouts and used a piece       of lexan with hook&loop to cover over it.Â  There's enough room       to number fuses on the fuse block.

       

       Bill "electrical fault free 6 years later" Watson

       

       On 8/5/2017 7:57 PM, Art Zemon wrote:

     

      	  Quote: 	
		         That's exactly what I need! Thanks.

         

         Â Â Â  -- Art Z.

           

           Sent from my phone. Please excuse brevity and bizarre typos.

         

           On Aug 5, 2017 6:54 PM, "John             Ciolino" <JohnCiolino(at)carolina.rr.com (JohnCiolino(at)carolina.rr.com)>             wrote:              	  Quote: 	
		                                                     

There                       is something simpler. See www.bandc.aero, look                       under electrical supplies/circuit protection                       devices/fuse blocks. A 20 circuit block ready to                       use is $30.                   

Good                       luck/                 

               

             	
           

         

       

     	
     



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user9253

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Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2017 11:40 am Post subject: Re: Fuse Blocks

I purchased a Busman 14 fuse block.  I did not like the density (fuses too far apart), the way the terminals protruded from the sides taking up panel space, and the way that the fuse sockets grip the fuses (weak grip).

  So I made my own fuse block using a PCB and fuse clips.  Search the web for "Keystone 3522".

My fuse holder has 18 fuses, 2 of which are spares.  The wires exit straight out the back.  The 8 small screws define the perimeter of the fuse block behind the panel.  My rule is to never replace a fuse while flying and never with the master switch turned on.  The fuse block is mounted in the lower right hand corner of the instrument panel in front of the passenger.  The fuses glow when blown, except the 2 amp.  Vans sells the glow fuses.

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gilles.thesee(at)free.fr
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Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2017 2:20 am Post subject: Fuse Blocks

Le 09/08/2017 à 21:40, user9253 a écrit :

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    So I made my own fuse block using a PCB and fuse clips.  Search the web for "Keystone 3522".

 My fuse holder has 18 fuses, 2 of which are spares.  The wires exit straight out the back.


	


Hi Joe,



Most interesting, congratulations !

I wish I could see the back of your fuseblock !

What did you use for the bus itself ? Metal strip, solid wire ?

Did you use Faston tabs to attach the wires ?

-- 

Best regards,

Gilles

http://contrails.free.fr

http://lapierre.skunkworks.free.fr

chaskuss(at)yahoo.com
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Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2017 7:32 am Post subject: Fuse Blocks

I purchased the fuse blocks linked below. The electrical connections are mounted from the rear. The blocks also come with a plastic cover to shield the fuses. This comes in very handy if you decide to mount the fuse block horizontally. I can supply photos of how I mounted them in my RV-8A

See

http://www.mihdirect.biz/

Charlie

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On Thu, 8/10/17, GTH <gilles.thesee(at)free.fr> wrote:

 Subject: Re: Re: Fuse Blocks

 To: aeroelectric-list(at)matronics.com

 Date: Thursday, August 10, 2017, 6:20 AM

 GTH <gilles.thesee(at)free.fr>

 Le 09/08/2017 Ã  21:40, user9253 a

 Ã©crit :

 > --> AeroElectric-List message

 posted by: "user9253" <fransew(at)gmail.com>

 >

 >Â  Â  So I made my own fuse

 block using a PCB and fuse clips.Â  Search the web for

 "Keystone 3522".

 > My fuse holder has 18 fuses, 2 of

 which are spares.Â  The wires exit straight out the

 back.

 Hi Joe,

 Most interesting, congratulations !

 I wish I could see the back of your

 fuseblock !

 What did you use for the bus itself ?

 Metal strip, solid wire ?

 Did you use Faston tabs to attach the

 wires ?

 -- 

 Best regards,

 Gilles

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 http://lapierre.skunkworks.free.fr

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user9253

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Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2017 11:50 am Post subject: Re: Fuse Blocks

Here you go Gilles, a picture of the rear of the fuse block.  Do not let the reflection in the aluminum confuse.  In the reflection, the wires can be seen making a 180 degree turn before being soldered to the PCB.  No worry about stiff soldered wires breaking because they are no longer stiff where exiting through the holes in the board.  The top 3 rows are one continuous copper PCB layer on both sides of the board.  The solder mask hides the copper.  The top 3 rows really are continuous.  The main power bus is nothing more than the copper layers on the circuit board.  I had considered soldering a 6 inch long #14 or #12 AWG wire along the bus to increase its capacity.  I did not because my RV-12 only uses about 10 amps total. The #12 wire from the aircraft battery contactor is spliced to 4 each of 18 AWG wires that are soldered to the top row of the bus.  The alternator (dynamo) is similarly connected with 4 of 18 AWG wires to the bottom of a 30 amp fuse (back fed to the bus).  This fuse block has about an hour of Hobbs time.  So far no problems.

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Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2017 6:36 am Post subject: Fuse Blocks

Le 10/08/2017 à 21:50, user9253 a écrit :

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 Here you go Gilles, a picture of the rear of the fuse block.


	


Thank you Joe, you gave me ideas !

To everybody, how about installing ANL current limiters on a PCB ?

Along with the ATO fuses, of course.



Thank you,



-- 

Best regards,

Gilles

http://contrails.free.fr

http://lapierre.skunkworks.free.fr

nuckolls.bob(at)aeroelect
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Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2017 8:54 am Post subject: Fuse Blocks

At 09:34 AM 8/11/2017, you wrote:

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		  --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: GTH <gilles.thesee(at)free.fr>



 Le 10/08/2017 à 21:50, user9253 a écrit :

  	  Quote: 	
		  --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "user9253" <fransew(at)gmail.com>



 Here you go Gilles, a picture of the rear of the fuse block. 	


 Thank you Joe, you gave me ideas !

 To everybody, how about installing ANL current limiters on a PCB ?

 Along with the ATO fuses, of course. 	


   If you're building a custom power distribution

   center, consider the miniature ANL current

   limiters like these . . . much smaller

   and readily available.



  http://tinyurl.com/y9427ggp



 

 

   Bob . . .

gilles.thesee(at)free.fr
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Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2017 1:25 pm Post subject: Fuse Blocks

Le 14/08/2017 à           18:53, Robert L. Nuckolls, III a écrit :

         

      	  Quote: 	
		         

             If you're building a custom power distribution

             center, consider the miniature ANL current

             limiters like these . . . much smaller

             and readily available.

           

                             http://tinyurl.com/y9427ggp

           	
     

     Hello Bob,

     

     Great find, thank you !

     I imagine it is possible to solder screws through an extra thick PCB     to hold those ANLs.

     Thanks again,

     

     -- 

       Best regards,

       Gilles

       http://contrails.free.fr

       http://lapierre.skunkworks.free.fr

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