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PostPosted: Thu Aug 24, 2017 9:20 am    Post subject: Medical Answer Reply with quote

So to answer my own question, after guidance from other Europa flyers, I contacted AOPA and their answer was once your vision has returned back to normal, to see your medical examiner, have them fill out FAA form 8500-7, and submit it, via certified mail, to the FAA so it is on file.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 24, 2017 1:57 pm    Post subject: Re: Medical Answer Reply with quote

Hi Mike,

Your answer is almost, but not quite right. Two problems:

1) The 8500-7 must be completed by an ophthalmologist, not an
AME, unless the AME is an ophthalmologist.

2) If the 8500-7 is ok, the FAA will issue a Special Issuance. After the
Special Issuance, you will get a letter for your AME authorizing him or
her to give you subsequent medical certificates.

BTW, you are grounded until you get that Special Issuance.

Here is the relevant rules for AME Guidance:

Decision Considerations - Aerospace Medical Dispositions
Item 31. Eyes
Applicants with many visual conditions may be found qualified for FAA certification following the receipt and review of specialty evaluations and pertinent medical records. Examples include retinal detachment with surgical correction, open angle glaucoma under adequate control with medication, and narrow angle glaucoma following surgical correction.
The Examiner may not issue a certificate under such circumstances for the initial application, except in the case of applicants following cataract surgery. The Examiner may issue a certificate after cataract surgery for applicants who have undergone cataract surgery with or without lens(es) implant. If pertinent medical records and a current ophthalmologic evaluation (using FAA Form 8500-7 or FAA Form 8500-14) indicate that the applicant meets the standards, the FAA may delegate authority to the Examiner to issue subsequent certificates.
The following lists the most common conditions of aeromedical significance, and course of action that should be taken by the examiner as defined by the protocol and disposition in the table. Medical certificates must not be issued to an applicant with medical conditions that require deferral, or for any condition not listed that may result in sudden or subtle incapacitation without consulting the AMCD or the RFS. Medical documentation must be submitted for any condition in order to support an issuance of an airman medical certificate.

I also refer you to https://www.faa.gov/about/office_org/headquarters_offices/avs/offices/aam/ame/guide/app_process/exam_tech/item31/amd/general/


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 24, 2017 5:03 pm    Post subject: Medical Answer Reply with quote

Ira,
Thank you for that update and correction. My AME and my retinal specialist happen to share the same office and will be colluding on my care (he just was not available when this occurred).
I am very confident that as long as my current vision is any indication of my future vision I don't foresee any further issues. I will simply have to go thru the gub'ment maze.
I guess this begs another question. How would a pilot handle this under BasicMed? I have no vision anamolies or drawbacks. 20/20 vision w my glasses as before the incident.

Mike Duane
Las Vegas, NV
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Hi Mike,

Your answer is almost, but not quite right. Two problems:

1) The 8500-7 must be completed by an ophthalmologist, not an
AME, unless the AME is an ophthalmologist.

2) If the 8500-7 is ok, the FAA will issue a Special Issuance. After the
Special Issuance, you will get a letter for your AME authorizing him or
her to give you subsequent medical certificates.

BTW, you are grounded until you get that Special Issuance.

Here is the relevant rules for AME Guidance:

Decision Considerations - Aerospace Medical Dispositions
Item 31. Eyes
Applicants with many visual conditions may be found qualified for FAA certification following the receipt and review of specialty evaluations and pertinent medical records. Examples include retinal detachment with surgical correction, open angle glaucoma under adequate control with medication, and narrow angle glaucoma following surgical correction.
The Examiner may not issue a certificate under such circumstances for the initial application, except in the case of applicants following cataract surgery. The Examiner may issue a certificate after cataract surgery for applicants who have undergone cataract surgery with or without lens(es) implant. If pertinent medical records and a current ophthalmologic evaluation (using FAA Form 8500-7 or FAA Form 8500-14) indicate that the applicant meets the standards, the FAA may delegate authority to the Examiner to issue subsequent certificates.
The following lists the most common conditions of aeromedical significance, and course of action that should be taken by the examiner as defined by the protocol and disposition in the table. Medical certificates must not be issued to an applicant with medical conditions that require deferral, or for any condition not listed that may result in sudden or subtle incapacitation without consulting the AMCD or the RFS. Medical documentation must be submitted for any condition in order to support an issuance of an airman medical certificate.

I also refer you to https://www.faa.gov/about/office_org/headquarters_offices/avs/offices/aam/ame/guide/app_process/exam_tech/item31/amd/general/

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 25, 2017 1:16 am    Post subject: Re: Medical Answer Reply with quote

Hi Mike,

This should not be anything other than a minor hiccup in your
flying! Get that form in to OKC and you should be back in the air
in no time. There are plenty of guys flying with treated Ret Dets.

Under Basic Med pilots with with a new disqualifying condition must
also self-ground. They would also need an eye consult. I am unfamiliar
with the exact protocol for what needs to happen next since I don't
do basic med exams.


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 26, 2017 3:12 am    Post subject: Medical Answer Reply with quote

When i did this 20 years ago after an eye accident i had to get a "CODA"....certificate of demonstrated ability from an faa flight examiner.   Basically he just checked i could fly..no big deal.

My faa medical examiner organized it.
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Hi Mike,


This should not be anything other than a minor hiccup in your
flying! Get that form in to OKC and you should be back in the air
in no time. There are plenty of guys flying with treated Ret Dets.

Under Basic Med pilots with with a new disqualifying condition must
also self-ground. They would also need an eye consult. I am unfamiliar
with the exact protocol for what needs to happen next since I don't
do basic med exams.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 26, 2017 6:32 am    Post subject: Re: Medical Answer Reply with quote

Hi Will,

A SODA (Statement of Demonstrated Ability) applies to a permanent major
condition. Something like a limb amputation or, if I hazard a guess, near or
complete blindness in one eye. That would NOT apply here with normal, or
at least passing visual acuity (20/40) in both eyes. There are lots
of people flying with only one eye, but it is a different pathway than a repaired
Ret Det.

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