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PostPosted: Sat Apr 15, 2017 7:00 pm    Post subject: Baby has new shoes Reply with quote

https://vimeo.com/213383013 password - owyheeflyer

A short video with the new tires.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 27, 2017 8:52 pm    Post subject: Re: Baby has new shoes Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 27, 2017 9:47 pm    Post subject: Baby has new shoes Reply with quote

Glad that you liked it.Larry
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 27, 2017 10:23 pm    Post subject: Baby has new shoes Reply with quote

Larry I have a question about your videos. First, THANK YOU for taking the time to make those videos and share them. I appreciate it. Helps keep me going on my Kolb project.

What I notice in the videos that you have posted is that the airplane seems to be taking off and landing at a much higher speed than what I had imagined. when I read Kolb list posts about the STOL performance of a Kolb, I am seeing numbers like high 20's to low 30 mph minimum flight speed depending on VG's and aircraft weight.

The videos that you shared show takeoff distances and liftoff speeds much greater than those other reported numbers. Areyou allowing a lot of extra speed and/or distance becauseyou have a long strip... or am I mistaken about the HKS powered Firestar's STOL capability?

This is NOT to disrespect the Kolb design or your piloting ability, NOT AT ALL. My question is only because the whole reason I wanted to fly a Kolb in the first place is that I wanted to do the unbelieveable STOL flying that you see the guys doing in Alaska with the Super Cubs, but on a poor man's budget.

Can a Firestar 2 witrh the HKS engine actually achieve the STOL performance that the website / brochure promises?

Bill Berle
Kolb Firestar 2 / HKS 700E almost ready... almost...

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Subject: Re: Re: Baby has new shoes
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Date: Wednesday, December 27, 2017, 9:47 PM

Glad that you liked
it.Larry
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 27, 2017 11:06 pm    Post subject: Baby has new shoes Reply with quote

There are several factors that come to play here. First my plane is set up for my preferences, and weighs a heck of a lot more than a Firestar has to be. With me and the plane and the way that I have it set up, and the amount of stuff that I am carrying we are about 600 lbs or a bit more. I always take off with both tanks full. The dirt is a bit slower building speed than pavement. I am also at 3880 feet ASL not counting density altitude. The four stroke also builds power a bit slower than a two stroke 503. With VG's it stalls at about 29 MPH for me. John, weighing 170 stalls at about 26 MPH. So in summery I can land places that it would be difficult for me to take off.

The lighter you keep the plane the quicker it leaves the ground.  Plus since I do have a 3000 foot runway I do tend to keep it on the ground longer than necessary. As for the landings- I generally set my approach at 50 MPH with the intention of setting down at a point that will stop me somewhere close to the wind sock, so practically all my landing are "landing long". I would rather fly than drive, and to be quite honest about it I am not all that skilled in that department. Yeah, I can make a smooth landing most of the time, but I spend a lot of the time with premature flares, and all of the other bad habits one tends to develop when no one is watching. That is not to say that I am slamming it into the ground, but it is why I have steel gear legs. Smile
My plane is set up for sturdy and rough country. It would fly a lot better if it were lighter, but obviously I like it just as it is.
I think you will like yours when you are done.
Larry
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Larry I have a question about your videos. First, THANK YOU for taking the time to make those videos and share them. I appreciate it. Helps keep me going on my Kolb project.

What I notice in the videos that you have posted is that the airplane seems to be taking off and landing at a much higher speed than what I had imagined. when I read Kolb list posts about the STOL performance of a Kolb, I am seeing numbers like high 20's to low 30 mph minimum flight speed depending on VG's and aircraft weight.

The videos that you shared show takeoff distances and liftoff speeds much greater than those other reported numbers. Areyou allowing a lot of extra speed and/or distance becauseyou have a long strip... or am I mistaken about the HKS powered Firestar's STOL capability?

This is NOT to disrespect the Kolb design or your piloting ability, NOT AT ALL. My question is only because the whole reason I wanted to fly a Kolb in the first place is that I wanted to do the unbelieveable STOL flying that you see the guys doing in Alaska with the Super Cubs, but on a poor man's budget.

Can a Firestar 2 witrh the HKS engine actually achieve the STOL performance that the website / brochure promises?

Bill Berle
Kolb Firestar 2 / HKS 700E almost ready... almost...

www.ezflaphandle.com  - safety & performance upgrade for light aircraft
www.grantstar.net           - winning proposals for non-profit and for-profit entities

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 Date: Wednesday, December 27, 2017, 9:47 PM

 Glad that you liked
 it.Larry
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