 |
Matronics Email Lists
Web Forum Interface to the Matronics Email Lists
|
| View previous topic :: View next topic |
| Author |
Message |
graemeh
Joined: 15 Jun 2017
Posts: 17
|
 Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2018 2:20 pm Post subject: Amount of Redux needed at each stage |
 |
|
I was told by Europa that I needed six cans - my cockpit module is already bonded in and one wing closed but I'm also doing the hi top mod.
Looking at how much I have it seems excessive but as the cost of shipping to NZ exceeds the cost of the adhesive I was cautious and bought six cans.
On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 6:02 AM, n7188u <chmgarb(at)gmail.com (chmgarb(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
| Quote: | --> Europa-List message posted by: "n7188u" <chmgarb(at)gmail.com (chmgarb(at)gmail.com)>
Dear forum members,
Does anyone remember how much Redux 420 is needed for:
Cockpit Module Bonding
Fuselage Top/Bottom Bonding
Wings Closure
I don't need exact numbers, just how much I need to ensure I have available. I have three quart cans, one is verified to be good. if I want to do the cockpit module bonding, do I need to have one quart verified good or two? That is the kind of question I have.
By verified I mean checked is it's good since my material are a bit old. I just don't want to open all cans to check if its good and expose all the Redux to air.
Thanks,
Chris
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=477534#477534
====================================
pa-List" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List
====================================
FORUMS -
eferrer" target="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com
====================================
WIKI -
errer" target="_blank">http://wiki.matronics.com
====================================
b Site -
-Matt Dralle, List Admin.
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
====================================
|
| | - The Matronics Europa-List Email Forum - | | | Use the List Feature Navigator to browse the many List utilities available such as the Email Subscriptions page, Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, Photoshare, and much more:
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List |
|
|
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
n7188u
Joined: 15 Nov 2015
Posts: 395
|
| Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2018 3:00 pm Post subject: Re: Amount of Redux needed at each stage |
|
|
Thanks,
I assume that by six cans you mean 3 quart kits. I was told 3 quarts is what is supplied in the kit. I am hoping to get a very rough estimate of the amount needed for the three stages I mentioned. Just in terms of half can, quarter can, etc.
Sounds like a weird request but it will help me keep the cans closed until the moment they are needed (this stuff is like gold so might as well keep it as such!).
Chris
| | - The Matronics Europa-List Email Forum - | | | Use the List Feature Navigator to browse the many List utilities available such as the Email Subscriptions page, Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, Photoshare, and much more:
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List |
|
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
graemeh
Joined: 15 Jun 2017
Posts: 17
|
| Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2018 5:05 pm Post subject: Amount of Redux needed at each stage |
|
|
No I mean 6 kits. I don't know what a quart is in terms of weight but the "Part A" of the packs I have is 1kg which is about 2.2 pounds.
I'd rather have too much than too little as the cost of shipping exceeded the cost of the adhesive and the cost of shipping was largely independent of the amount of adhesive I was shipping (due to dangerous goods paperwork, special packaging, handling etc)
If I was in your position I'd take the risk and just go ahead with the adhesive you have and consider ordering more once the cockpit is in and one wing is closed.
It does seem like I've got an excessive amount of adhesive so I may have some to sell in a year or so.
On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 12:00 PM, n7188u <chmgarb(at)gmail.com (chmgarb(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
| Quote: | --> Europa-List message posted by: "n7188u" <chmgarb(at)gmail.com (chmgarb(at)gmail.com)>
Thanks,
I assume that by six cans you mean 3 quart kits. I was told 3 quarts is what is supplied in the kit. I am hoping to get a very rough estimate of the amount needed for the three stages I mentioned. Just in terms of half can, quarter can, etc.
Sounds like a weird request but it will help me keep the cans closed until the moment they are needed (this stuff is like gold so might as well keep it as such!).
Chris
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=477552#477552
====================================
pa-List" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List
====================================
FORUMS -
eferrer" target="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com
====================================
WIKI -
errer" target="_blank">http://wiki.matronics.com
====================================
b Site -
-Matt Dralle, List Admin.
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
====================================
|
| | - The Matronics Europa-List Email Forum - | | | Use the List Feature Navigator to browse the many List utilities available such as the Email Subscriptions page, Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, Photoshare, and much more:
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List |
|
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
wdaniell.longport(at)gmai
Guest
|
| Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2018 6:54 pm Post subject: Amount of Redux needed at each stage |
|
|
My experience is that you need to lay it on thick in the middle of the bond and then ensure that it squeezes out the sides. This avoids having voids in the bond. I spent quite a lot of time with a high power light, a 1/8 drill and a syringe after my first bonds.
Will
William Daniell
LONGPORT
+57 310 295 0744
On Wed, Jan 24, 2018 at 8:05 PM, Graeme Hart <graeme.hart(at)onecoolkat.com (graeme.hart(at)onecoolkat.com)> wrote:
| Quote: | No I mean 6 kits. I don't know what a quart is in terms of weight but the "Part A" of the packs I have is 1kg which is about 2.2 pounds.
I'd rather have too much than too little as the cost of shipping exceeded the cost of the adhesive and the cost of shipping was largely independent of the amount of adhesive I was shipping (due to dangerous goods paperwork, special packaging, handling etc)
If I was in your position I'd take the risk and just go ahead with the adhesive you have and consider ordering more once the cockpit is in and one wing is closed.
It does seem like I've got an excessive amount of adhesive so I may have some to sell in a year or so.
On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 12:00 PM, n7188u <chmgarb(at)gmail.com (chmgarb(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
| Quote: | --> Europa-List message posted by: "n7188u" <chmgarb(at)gmail.com (chmgarb(at)gmail.com)>
Thanks,
I assume that by six cans you mean 3 quart kits. I was told 3 quarts is what is supplied in the kit. I am hoping to get a very rough estimate of the amount needed for the three stages I mentioned. Just in terms of half can, quarter can, etc.
Sounds like a weird request but it will help me keep the cans closed until the moment they are needed (this stuff is like gold so might as well keep it as such!).
Chris
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=477552#477552
===========
pa-List" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List
===========
FORUMS -
eferrer" target="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com
===========
WIKI -
errer" target="_blank">http://wiki.matronics.com
===========
b Site -
-Matt Dralle, List Admin.
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
===========
|
|
| | - The Matronics Europa-List Email Forum - | | | Use the List Feature Navigator to browse the many List utilities available such as the Email Subscriptions page, Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, Photoshare, and much more:
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List |
|
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
graemeh
Joined: 15 Jun 2017
Posts: 17
|
| Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2018 7:09 pm Post subject: Amount of Redux needed at each stage |
|
|
That is a very useful piece of information. I think I have enough that it won't matter if I wipe of a lot of excess.
On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 3:53 PM, William Daniell <wdaniell.longport(at)gmail.com (wdaniell.longport(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
| Quote: | My experience is that you need to lay it on thick in the middle of the bond and then ensure that it squeezes out the sides. This avoids having voids in the bond. I spent quite a lot of time with a high power light, a 1/8 drill and a syringe after my first bonds.
Will
William Daniell
LONGPORT
+57 310 295 0744
On Wed, Jan 24, 2018 at 8:05 PM, Graeme Hart <graeme.hart(at)onecoolkat.com (graeme.hart(at)onecoolkat.com)> wrote:
| Quote: | No I mean 6 kits. I don't know what a quart is in terms of weight but the "Part A" of the packs I have is 1kg which is about 2.2 pounds.
I'd rather have too much than too little as the cost of shipping exceeded the cost of the adhesive and the cost of shipping was largely independent of the amount of adhesive I was shipping (due to dangerous goods paperwork, special packaging, handling etc)
If I was in your position I'd take the risk and just go ahead with the adhesive you have and consider ordering more once the cockpit is in and one wing is closed.
It does seem like I've got an excessive amount of adhesive so I may have some to sell in a year or so.
On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 12:00 PM, n7188u <chmgarb(at)gmail.com (chmgarb(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
| Quote: | --> Europa-List message posted by: "n7188u" <chmgarb(at)gmail.com (chmgarb(at)gmail.com)>
Thanks,
I assume that by six cans you mean 3 quart kits. I was told 3 quarts is what is supplied in the kit. I am hoping to get a very rough estimate of the amount needed for the three stages I mentioned. Just in terms of half can, quarter can, etc.
Sounds like a weird request but it will help me keep the cans closed until the moment they are needed (this stuff is like gold so might as well keep it as such!).
Chris
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=477552#477552
===========
pa-List" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List
===========
FORUMS -
eferrer" target="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com
===========
WIKI -
errer" target="_blank">http://wiki.matronics.com
===========
b Site -
-Matt Dralle, List Admin.
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
===========
|
|
|
| | - The Matronics Europa-List Email Forum - | | | Use the List Feature Navigator to browse the many List utilities available such as the Email Subscriptions page, Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, Photoshare, and much more:
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List |
|
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
n7188u
Joined: 15 Nov 2015
Posts: 395
|
| Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2018 2:11 pm Post subject: Re: Amount of Redux needed at each stage |
|
|
Yesterday I found that the CM bonding manual calls to have a 800 grams of resin before starting the job (about 3/4 quart). That's what I needed. Too bad they don't give the same info for the wings and fuselage jobs. I can probably estimate it based on surface area.
Regards,
Chris
| | - The Matronics Europa-List Email Forum - | | | Use the List Feature Navigator to browse the many List utilities available such as the Email Subscriptions page, Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, Photoshare, and much more:
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List |
|
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
|
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You can download files in this forum
|
Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group
|
Get Email Distribution Too!
FAQ
Search
Memberlist
Usergroups
Register
Profile
Log in to check your private messages
Log in
