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PostPosted: Tue Nov 07, 2017 8:24 am    Post subject: Ragwing Ultra-Piet Reply with quote

I used West 105/206 epoxy to coat most of the wood parts, no varnish, urethane, boat or otherwise. Helps pre-coating the insides of the parts before glueing them on. You don't need to mask.
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Use Minwax Helmsman  Spar Urethane. It gives good UV protection.

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I have my tail feathers almost done and am thinking i should varnish them now so they are protected while i continue building, what varnish should i use will the minwax from menards work or is there a brand that works the best?




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PostPosted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 6:22 pm    Post subject: Re: Ragwing Ultra-Piet Reply with quote

that looks great oldbird, you are going to have a very nice bird

a little update on my progress still haven't varnished yet but did finish my tail feathers and am now working on attaching the plywood to the fuselage sides. Oh and doing a lot of sanding.


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 6:45 pm    Post subject: Ragwing Ultra-Piet Reply with quote

Those bricks might make it pretty heavy?!

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that looks great oldbird, you are going to have a very nice bird

a little update on my progress still haven't varnished yet but did finish my tail feathers and am now working on attaching the plywood to the fuselage sides. Oh and doing a lot of sanding.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 6:09 pm    Post subject: Re: Ragwing Ultra-Piet Reply with quote

started to put the sides of my fuselage together. with a lot of imagination its starting to look a little like an airplane

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 13, 2018 7:15 am    Post subject: Ragwing Ultra-Piet Reply with quote

For a variety of reasons, I am in the process of selling my full-scale Piet project, and am planning on starting on a Ragwing version, so I’ll be interested in following your progress. I will probably make the Heath Parasol version, just because I like the lines of the tail feathers and wings. Roughly half of the Ragwing designs are essentially the same plane with variations on empennage lines, outer wing shape and wing attachment. I will probably build it to register as a LSA so that i don’t have to be excessively concerned about weight (also, my life insurance policy specifically excludes death by ultralight accident, but it’s OK if i die in a certificated, registered aircraft). I only weigh 135 lbs. so a little extra weight in the aircraft for instruments, brakes, etc. is no big deal.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 13, 2018 9:33 am    Post subject: Re: Ragwing Ultra-Piet Reply with quote

Kip

I have the plans for both the Heath and the Ultra-piet

I went with the piet for both the pietenpol look and because i think it looks a little sturdier, there's a little more plywood in it

the heath does look easier to build though,

either way keep in touch i'd love to hear how the build goes and how it flies


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2018 5:31 pm    Post subject: Re: Ragwing Ultra-Piet Reply with quote

I removed from the jig and flipped the fuselage over to glue in more members still rechecking to make sure it's square

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2018 4:19 pm    Post subject: Re: Ragwing Ultra-Piet Reply with quote

Been working on the fuselage some more

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2018 5:14 pm    Post subject: Re: Ragwing Ultra-Piet Reply with quote

I glued the cross bracing in and the gusset strip to the bottom

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 7:32 pm    Post subject: Re: Ragwing Ultra-Piet Reply with quote

One year in on my build. So far i have built all 22 of the ribs. The vertical fin and rudder. The horizontal tail feathers. And have the fuselage in the boat stage. Still a ton to do yet but starting to look like something resembling an airplane

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 24, 2018 5:14 am    Post subject: Ragwing Ultra-Piet Reply with quote

Curious, since I have decided to give up my ‘big’ Piet project in favor of this approach, what are you thinking of for an engine? Roger Mann is suggesting a full-case (not cut) 1/2 VW, and I think that sounds like a good idea.

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One year in on my build. So far i have built all 22 of the ribs. The vertical fin and rudder. The horizontal tail feathers. And have the fuselage in the boat stage. Still a ton to do yet but starting to look like something resembling an airplane




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PostPosted: Sat Feb 24, 2018 6:00 am    Post subject: Ragwing Ultra-Piet Reply with quote

Very nice looking work!

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One year in on my build. So far i have built all 22 of the ribs. The vertical fin and rudder. The horizontal tail feathers. And have the fuselage in the boat stage. Still a ton to do yet but starting to look like something resembling an airplane




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PostPosted: Sat Feb 24, 2018 9:41 am    Post subject: Re: Ragwing Ultra-Piet Reply with quote

Thank you jack. And im planning on using a rotax 503 for an an engine

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 28, 2018 6:42 pm    Post subject: Re: Ragwing Ultra-Piet Reply with quote

The door is cut out. The gas tank test fitted and started working on the seat.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 8:21 am    Post subject: Re: Ragwing Ultra-Piet Reply with quote

cdlwingnut- what is the fuel capacity of your tank? I'm assuming that it's less than the Part 103 maximum allowable 5 gallons, but can't tell from the photo what the capacity is. And I guess I don't know enough about the Ultra Piet weight & balance, but it seems like having the fuel behind the pilot would put the CG with full fuel quite a bit aft, shifting forward as the fuel burned off.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 9:52 am    Post subject: Ragwing Ultra-Piet Reply with quote

I would have concerns about that location.

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cdlwingnut- what is the fuel capacity of your tank? I'm assuming that it's less than the Part 103 maximum allowable 5 gallons, but can't tell from the photo what the capacity is. And I guess I don't know enough about the Ultra Piet weight & balance, but it seems like having the fuel behind the pilot would put the CG with full fuel quite a bit aft, shifting forward as the fuel burned off.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 12:15 pm    Post subject: Re: Ragwing Ultra-Piet Reply with quote

In a climb - nose high attitude - the tank might possibly have zero fuel head to the carb.

I'd recommend speaking with an EAA Tech Counselor NOW, not later.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 2:53 pm    Post subject: Re: Ragwing Ultra-Piet Reply with quote

The pace of your progress is absolutely inspirational! Keep us posted and keep following the plans.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 4:53 pm    Post subject: Re: Ragwing Ultra-Piet Reply with quote

The fuel tank is 6 gallons this plane will have an N number and be light sport. Im not worried by needing a license or medical i have more than whats needed in both. As far as the location oc the tank it is exactly where the plans have it put.

Today i finished cutting out the seat and floorboard


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 6:54 pm    Post subject: Re: Ragwing Ultra-Piet Reply with quote

Maybe y'all ought to verify the correct fuel tank location, as it appears that nothing is in the lower bay - take a look at the plywood thru the cutouts in the side of the fuse.

From my perspective, it appears to be in the bay located in the turtle deck.
That location would make much more sense from a fuel flow standpoint.


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