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Definition of Airworthy; was: First Conditional Inspection

 
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Dave Saylor



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PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2018 8:19 am    Post subject: Definition of Airworthy; was: First Conditional Inspection Reply with quote

Vernon, I'm sorry you're being subjected to so much hot air. But the statement you were presented is incorrect and you deserve better. Airworthy is not a crime!

On Sun, May 27, 2018 at 5:19 PM Kelly McMullen <apilot2(at)gmail.com (apilot2(at)gmail.com)> wrote:

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You are debating with the FAA themselves. The definition says it has to have a type certificate. They then insert circular wording to say condition for safe operation means airworthy, which it does not. Experimental aircraft have a "special airworthiness certificate" because they don't meet the requirements for a "Standard" airworthiness certificate. Look at the required passenger warning on your instrument panel that states the aircraft does not meet all FA A airworthiness requirements.  Your operating limitations state the very specific language to be used for sign-off of a condition inspection. Use other language at your own peril. The language is there to protect you more than anything else. Type certificated aircraft have very specific language for sign off of their annual inspection, and any inspector that values his certificates will use that language.
 
You are debating with the FAA themselves.
I'm not arguing with what the FAA has written down.  I'm trying to explain the FAA's definition of "Airworthy:  An aircraft with a type certificate (TC) is airworthy when it conforms to its U.S. TC and is in a condition for safe operation. For the purpose of this order, a non-type-certificated aircraft is airworthy when it is in a condition for safe operation".
The definition says it has to have a type certificate.
No, the definition says an aircraft either has a TC or it doesn't. They pretty well covered all cases.

They then insert circular wording to say condition for safe operation means airworthy, which it does not.

There's nothing circular about it. TC'd or not, they defined "airworthy" to mean "in a condition for safe operation", so in this context, that's what it means.

Experimental aircraft have a "special airworthiness certificate" because they don't meet the requirements for a "Standard" airworthiness certificate.

That's what makes them special!   But it doesn't mean they're not airworthy. In fact, if an aircraft has ANY kind of FAA airworthiness certificate, that pretty well certifies it to be, you know, airworthy.

Look at the required passenger warning on your instrument panel that states the aircraft does not meet all FA A airworthiness requirements.

I'm not sure what that means.  My placard mentions federal safety regulations, but it doesn't say anything about airworthiness requirements. Does yours?

Your operating limitations state the very specific language to be used for sign-off of a condition inspection. Use other language at your own peril.

If you're afraid of the word, don't use it. I find it useful.

The language is there to protect you more than anything else.

Protect me from what? The need to easily explain my choice of words? I've always found that my actions protect me better than words.

Type certificated aircraft have very specific language for sign off of their annual inspection, and any inspector that values his certificates will use that language.

I thought we were discussing non-type-certificated aircraft and their condition inspections. What do type certificated annuals have to do with it?

--Dave


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