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				|  Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2014 2:15 am    Post subject: oil |   |  
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 Hi,
 
 It is time for an oil change again. However, the oil I always used is
 no longer available.
 The oil I used was Shell Advance VSX 4T. This was a Rotax approved
 oil, suitable for leaded and unleaded fuel. There is a replacement for
 this oil, the Shell Advance AX7, but I'm not sure whether this is just
 a name change or a formula change.
 So, what kind of oil are the rest of us using? Any recommendations?
 Anyone who kan tell me whether the Advance AX7 is just a name change?
 
 Frans
 
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		| Ivor Phillips 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2014 3:55 am    Post subject: oil |   |  
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				| Hi Frans
Like you I use the VSX 4 T but now use the shell AX7. It the same oil with slight improvements supposedly ,
 BTW are you going to the Rotax meet at Wels this June ?
 Regards
 Ivor
 
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  	  | Quote: |  	  | On 14 Mar 2014, at 10:10, Frans Veldman <frans(at)privatepilots.nl> wrote: 
 
 
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 Hi,
 
 It is time for an oil change again. However, the oil I always used is
 no longer available.
 The oil I used was Shell Advance VSX 4T. This was a Rotax approved
 oil, suitable for leaded and unleaded fuel. There is a replacement for
 this oil, the Shell Advance AX7, but I'm not sure whether this is just
 a name change or a formula change.
 So, what kind of oil are the rest of us using? Any recommendations?
 Anyone who kan tell me whether the Advance AX7 is just a name change?
 
 Frans
 
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				|  Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2014 5:19 am    Post subject: oil |   |  
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				| Guys,
Aeroshell Sport plus 4 is the Rotax approved oil we use in the States, which is a semi-synthetic for use with AV gas.  I get it from Lockwood for less than $10 a quart.  It is quite good at suspending the lead. However, can you get it over there?
 
 For unleaded fuel I still prefer Mobile One MX4T or now called Racing T.  My turbo responds well with it.
 Regards,
 Bud
 
 
  	  | Quote: |  	  | Subject: Re: oil From: ivor.phillips(at)ntlworld.com
 Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2014 11:53:53 +0000
 To: europa-list(at)matronics.com
 
 --> Europa-List message posted by: Ivor Phillips <ivor.phillips(at)ntlworld.com>
 
 Hi Frans
 Like you I use the VSX 4 T but now use the shell AX7. It the same oil with slight improvements supposedly ,
 BTW are you going to the Rotax meet at Wels this June ?
 Regards
 Ivor
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 > On 14 Mar 2014, at 10:10, Frans Veldman <frans(at)privatepilots.nl> wrote:
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 > --> Europa-List message posted by: Frans Veldman <frans(at)privatepilots.nl>
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 > Hi,
 >
 > It is time for an oil change again. However, the oil I always used is
 > no longer available.
 > The oil I used was Shell Advance VSX 4T. This was a Rotax approved
 > oil, suitable for leaded and unleaded fuel. There is a replacement for
 > this oil, the Shell Advance AX7, but I'm not sure whether this is just
 > a name change or a formula change.
 > So, what kind of oil are the rest of us using? Any recommendations?
 > Anyone who kan tell me whether the Advance AX7 is just a name change?
 >
 > Frans
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				|  Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2014 12:03 pm    Post subject: oil |   |  
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 On 03/14/2014 12:53 PM, Ivor Phillips wrote:
 
  	  | Quote: |  	  | <ivor.phillips(at)ntlworld.com>
 
 Hi Frans Like you I use the VSX 4 T but now use the shell AX7.
 
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 It is a bit confusing. I have seen the AX7 advertised as being fully
 synthetic, whereas the VSX was half synthetic. Full synthetic oils
 have difficulties with the lead content of AVGAS and are therefore
 unsuitable for my purpose. My supplier sent me Advance Ultra which is
 supposed to be superior (and much more expensive) but in the Rotax
 service bulletin it was indicated as unsuitable for use with AVGAS fuel.
 So, this is why I'm concerned about the successor AX7 oil. If you can
 confirm that it is indeed basically the same as the predecessor VSX
 and still half synthetic I'm happy to use it.
 
 
  	  | Quote: |  	  | BTW are you going to the Rotax meet at Wels this June ? 
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 That is unlikely. I even didn't know about this meeting but I have
 quite a busy schedule this saison.
 
 I will probably see you at one of the other events.
 BTW the place you recommended to go to was Scilly was it?
 
 Best regards,
 Frans
 
 
  	  | Quote: |  	  | Regards Ivor 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 > On 14 Mar 2014, at 10:10, Frans Veldman <frans(at)privatepilots.nl>
 > wrote:
 >
 >
 > <frans(at)privatepilots.nl>
 >
 Hi,
 
 It is time for an oil change again. However, the oil I always used
 is no longer available. The oil I used was Shell Advance VSX 4T.
 This was a Rotax approved oil, suitable for leaded and unleaded
 fuel. There is a replacement for this oil, the Shell Advance AX7,
 but I'm not sure whether this is just a name change or a formula
 change. So, what kind of oil are the rest of us using? Any
 recommendations? Anyone who kan tell me whether the Advance AX7 is
 just a name change?
 
 Frans
 
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		| Ivor Phillips 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2014 1:28 pm    Post subject: oil |   |  
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Hi Frans
 As you can see from the labels it a semi synthetic oil and it's previous name was vsx 4
 Yes the Scillies Isle is a great place to visit, St Mary's is the main island with a interesting approach, you will need PPR and the airfield is shut on Sunday,
 bob and me flew into helgoland last year on your recommendation and really had a good time
 Will try for a revisit some time soon,
 Regards
 Ivor
 
  	  | Quote: |  	  | On 14 Mar 2014, at 19:58, Frans Veldman <frans(at)privatepilots.nl> wrote: 
 
 
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 > On 03/14/2014 12:53 PM, Ivor Phillips wrote:
 >
 > <ivor.phillips(at)ntlworld.com>
 >
 > Hi Frans Like you I use the VSX 4 T but now use the shell AX7.
 
 It is a bit confusing. I have seen the AX7 advertised as being fully
 synthetic, whereas the VSX was half synthetic. Full synthetic oils
 have difficulties with the lead content of AVGAS and are therefore
 unsuitable for my purpose. My supplier sent me Advance Ultra which is
 supposed to be superior (and much more expensive) but in the Rotax
 service bulletin it was indicated as unsuitable for use with AVGAS fuel.
 So, this is why I'm concerned about the successor AX7 oil. If you can
 confirm that it is indeed basically the same as the predecessor VSX
 and still half synthetic I'm happy to use it.
 
 > BTW are you going to the Rotax meet at Wels this June ?
 
 That is unlikely. I even didn't know about this meeting but I have
 quite a busy schedule this saison.
 
 I will probably see you at one of the other events.
 BTW the place you recommended to go to was Scilly was it?
 
 Best regards,
 Frans
 
 
 
 > Regards Ivor
 >
 > Sent from my iPad
 >
 >> On 14 Mar 2014, at 10:10, Frans Veldman <frans(at)privatepilots.nl>
 >> wrote:
 >>
 >>
 >> <frans(at)privatepilots.nl>
 > Hi,
 >
 > It is time for an oil change again. However, the oil I always used
 > is no longer available. The oil I used was Shell Advance VSX 4T.
 > This was a Rotax approved oil, suitable for leaded and unleaded
 > fuel. There is a replacement for this oil, the Shell Advance AX7,
 > but I'm not sure whether this is just a name change or a formula
 > change. So, what kind of oil are the rest of us using? Any
 > recommendations? Anyone who kan tell me whether the Advance AX7 is
 > just a name change?
 >
 > Frans
 >
 
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				|  Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2014 5:59 pm    Post subject: oil |   |  
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				|  	  | Quote: |  	  | For unleaded fuel I still prefer Mobile One MX4T or now called Racing T.  My turbo responds well with it. 
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 Bud,
 Could you kindly let me know what you mean by 'turbo responding well with it' please. ie, the Mobil oil as opposed to the Shell Sport Plus 4 that I am using.
 Cheers
 Kingsley in Oz
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