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kevinmarie(at)blueyonder.
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 Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2014 1:43 am Post subject: Nose wheel grease |
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I know this has been discussed lots of times. But I need a small amount of the special grease for the nose wheel friction set up.
Does anyone have a small pot to sell or able to point me in the right direction?
Thanks
Kevin Challis
G ODJG tri gear 912s classic with xs firewall forward
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daseitz(at)cfl.rr.com
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| Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2014 2:47 am Post subject: Nose wheel grease |
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NYE Damping grease http://www.nyelubricants.com/products/damping.shtml?pg=cat
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I know this has been discussed lots of times. But I need a small amount of the special grease for the nose wheel friction set up.
Does anyone have a small pot to sell or able to point me in the right direction?
Thanks
Kevin Challis
G ODJG tri gear 912s classic with xs firewall forward
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christoph.both(at)acadiau
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| Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2014 6:10 am Post subject: Nose wheel grease |
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This product works very well, A small tube cost me $20 and will last for
many years. The only draw back is during colder winter flying weather: you
need to adjust the friction torque of the nose wheel to a lower value to
retain a reasonable movability matching warmer weather. Once properly set
as per Bud Yearly's torque recommendation I never had issues with nose
wheel shimming.
Christoph Both
Europa Classic #223
Wolfville, Nova Scotia
Canada
On 14-03-10 7:46 AM, "Dean Seitz" <daseitz(at)cfl.rr.com> wrote:
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NYE Damping grease
http://www.nyelubricants.com/products/damping.shtml?pg=cat
---- Kevin Challis <kevinmarie(at)blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
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> I know this has been discussed lots of times. But I need a small amount
>of the special grease for the nose wheel friction set up.
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> Does anyone have a small pot to sell or able to point me in the right
>direction?
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> Thanks
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> Kevin Challis
> G ODJG tri gear 912s classic with xs firewall forward
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kevinmarie(at)blueyonder.
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| Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2014 1:17 am Post subject: Nose wheel grease |
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Thanks I have ordered some from eBay UK
Kevin Challis
| Quote: | On 10 Mar 2014, at 14:09, Christoph Both <christoph.both(at)acadiau.ca> wrote:
This product works very well, A small tube cost me $20 and will last for
many years. The only draw back is during colder winter flying weather: you
need to adjust the friction torque of the nose wheel to a lower value to
retain a reasonable movability matching warmer weather. Once properly set
as per Bud Yearly's torque recommendation I never had issues with nose
wheel shimming.
Christoph Both
Europa Classic #223
Wolfville, Nova Scotia
Canada
> On 14-03-10 7:46 AM, "Dean Seitz" <daseitz(at)cfl.rr.com> wrote:
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> NYE Damping grease
> http://www.nyelubricants.com/products/damping.shtml?pg=cat
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> ---- Kevin Challis <kevinmarie(at)blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
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>> <kevinmarie(at)blueyonder.co.uk>
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>> I know this has been discussed lots of times. But I need a small amount
>> of the special grease for the nose wheel friction set up.
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>> Does anyone have a small pot to sell or able to point me in the right
>> direction?
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>> Thanks
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>> Kevin Challis
>> G ODJG tri gear 912s classic with xs firewall forward
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wdaniell.longport(at)gmai
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| Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2014 5:08 am Post subject: Nose wheel grease |
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Guys
which is the NYE product to buy? And where do you get it from in the USA?
Will
William Daniell
LONGPORT
+57 310 295 0744
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wdaniell.longport(at)gmai
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| Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2014 9:04 am Post subject: Nose wheel grease |
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Excellent thanks...I assume it is the heavy damping grease nyogel-767a?
yours
Will
William Daniell
LONGPORT
+57 310 295 0744
On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 4:06 PM, Christoph Both <christoph.both(at)acadiau.ca (christoph.both(at)acadiau.ca)> wrote:
[quote] Try this source:
http://www.newgateonline.com/manufacturers/nye-lubricants.html
Christoph
From: William Daniell <wdaniell.longport(at)gmail.com (wdaniell.longport(at)gmail.com)>
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Date: Tuesday, 11 March, 2014 9:08 AM
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Subject: Re: Nose wheel grease
Guys
which is the NYE product to buy? And where do you get it from in the USA?
Will
William Daniell
LONGPORT
[url=tel:%2B57%20310%20295%200744]+57 310 295 0744[/url]
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christoph.both(at)acadiau
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| Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2014 9:22 am Post subject: Nose wheel grease |
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I need to check next time I am in the hangar, but I think this sounds about right. Bud, can you chime in?
Thanks,
Christoph
From: William Daniell <wdaniell.longport(at)gmail.com (wdaniell.longport(at)gmail.com)>
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Date: Wednesday, 19 March, 2014 1:58 PM
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Subject: Re: Nose wheel grease
Excellent thanks...I assume it is the heavy damping grease nyogel-767a?
yours
Will
William Daniell
LONGPORT
+57 310 295 0744
On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 4:06 PM, Christoph Both <christoph.both(at)acadiau.ca (christoph.both(at)acadiau.ca)> wrote:
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budyerly(at)msn.com
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| Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2014 11:14 am Post subject: Nose wheel grease |
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<?xml:namespace prefix="v" /><?xml:namespace prefix="o" /><![endif]--> Christoph,
I have used the heavy and medium Nye grease 868VH down to 868 as well as the 774. In very cold climates I would use the 868 or 774L or light grease. I also have put a smear of Slipit on the aluminum (a woodworkers product) and if used sparingly, they all work. So does a bit of patience and just a good clean machined flat on the gear leg.
Hangup of the gear as it turns is due to the lack of a straight pivot pin on the fork. If it leans forward it makes taxiing straight a jog to the left and right rather than smooth centerline tracking. A touch of Nye or slipit on the metal gear leg works fine.
I warn my customers never to use the grease dzerk on the front of the gear. Most folks are heavy handed and blow grease out the top and lower seal. Now you have no nose gear dampening.
On the annual, undo the nut to just on by a thread, lower the tail down and and secure with weight on the tie down or by the stab tubes and pull the nose fork off and hand lube the bearing, check the seal, clean and inspect. Inspect for uneven wear of the plastic disk. Check the one inch pin for security and alignment. Repair / Replace as necessary. While you have the fork off, do the wheel bearings at the same time. Tighten the nut to give 16 pounds or so with Nye type grease film on the leg and do a taxi test. Tighten the nut until the gear is a bit hard to break then back off one face. Go fly and test. Land and hold off the nose until 40, and let it down. If shimmy occurs, push forward and brake hard, and tighten one flat.
Nye grease is quite good and sticky, but you must test for shimmy and disk compatability. You use so little, that personally, any stiff grease will do. I do not use silicones or lithium greases, only flurocarbon or silica thickened like Nye, Nyogel H, the spec is 774 or 868 which comes in small tubes for about 14 pounds or $20 US. See newgate on line or Specialty Chemicals... The aircraft kit manufacturer though has no comment on which is better, and neither do I.
Remember, prolonged grease contact with plastic,(like the disk) may cause the disk to distort, soften (more common) and fail. That is why you want to go with the spec of 774 (the seven series) which is used with plastic gears and such and so far hasn't caused any problems. I have a spare disk though in my parts bag in the shop, just in case....
Check with the factory for changes.
Regards,
Bud Yerly
CFC, Inc.
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