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Steve Boetto



Joined: 11 Jan 2006
Posts: 364

PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 8:14 am    Post subject: Mode C veil question Reply with quote

In a message dated 1/16/06 8:57:43 AM Central Standard Time,
jtriddle(at)adelphia.net writes:

Quote:


Part 103 is very specific about operating rules including where it
cannot operate legally. See
http://www.ultralighthomepage.com/FAR.part103.html

Specifically see the following section:
Sec. 103.17 Operations in certain airspace.

No person may operate an ultralight vehicle within an airport
traffic
area, control zone, airport radar service area, terminal control area,
or
positive control area unless that person has prior authorization from
the air
traffic control facility having jurisdiction over that airspace.

The areas referred to in this section I think would include the area
within the Mode C Veil.

Thom in Buffalo



Good point Thom. That was my original concern. The mode C veil out of MCO
gobbles up almost all of Central Florida. The questions I asked were directed to
both Orlando FAA and the tower at SFB (Sanford). Sanford CT had no problem
with operating right up to the edge of their 5 mile ring as long as I did not
loiter in the approach end of the active runway. The FAA said that the mode C
ring was not to be confused with a controlled area. This issue is not much of
a factor for me anymore because I have moved my flight area to Winter Haven
but I would be interested if the explanation that I got was correct. In
other words, Can a UL operate within a Mode C Veil with no prior permission
provided that he stays outside of other controlled airspace?

Steve B


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David.Lehman



Joined: 10 Jan 2006
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Location: "Lovely" Fresno CA

PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2006 7:59 am    Post subject: Re: Mode C Veil Question Reply with quote

Richard Pike wrote:
I disagree.
An ultralight is a vehicle, it is not an aircraft,


I think I disagree (brave aren't I?)...
103.1 Applicability says:
This part prescribes rules governing the operation of ultralight vehicles in the United States. For the purposes of this part,
an ultralight vehicle is a vehicle that:

(a) Is used or intended to be used for manned operation in the air by a single occupant;


and FAR 1.1 says:
Aircraft means a device that is used or intended to be used for flight in the air.

It appears to me that an ultralight vehicle is a vehicle that is used or intended to be used for flight in the air.

But, I've been wrong before...

DVD


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