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amg(at)nc.rr.com
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Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2006 6:38 pm Post subject: Shrike nose

Hello,



Anyone know how much a Shrike nose cost, and who sells and installs them???

YOURTCFG(at)aol.com
Guest

Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2006 10:14 pm Post subject: Shrike nose

In a message dated 1/14/2006 6:39:20 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,  

amg(at)nc.rr.com writes:



Anyone  know how much a Shrike nose cost, and who sells and installs  them???



About 12K for the nose.  Installation is another 5 -6K  Gary  Gadberry, "The 

Air Center" is the only source for new noses.   jb

amg(at)nc.rr.com
Guest

Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2006 4:50 am Post subject: Shrike nose

Thanks for the quick response, could use that much money for something 

else more useful than looks.



Thanks



Roland



YOURTCFG(at)aol.com wrote:



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In a message dated 1/14/2006 6:39:20 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,  

amg(at)nc.rr.com writes:



Anyone  know how much a Shrike nose cost, and who sells and installs  them???



About 12K for the nose.  Installation is another 5 -6K  Gary  Gadberry, "The 

Air Center" is the only source for new noses.   jb

n395v

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 450

Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2006 8:10 am Post subject: Re: Shrike nose

If you are looking for speed the flap gap seals and square rudder cap mods give a lot better bang for the buck than a nose job. +/_ winglets.



The winglets are from Commander Aero the others from Air Center (Gadberry)

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Milt

YOURTCFG(at)aol.com
Guest

Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2006 10:27 am Post subject: Shrike nose

In a message dated 1/15/2006 8:11:01 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,  

N395V(at)direcway.com writes:



If you  are looking for speed

The best speed mods are #1  Buy a good GPS, and use it.  Fly  everywhere "GPS 

Direct" and #2 bigger gas tanks:-)   jb

steve2(at)sover.net
Guest

Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 5:18 am Post subject: Shrike nose

I must be in the minority prefering the snub-nose of the older Commanders to 

the pointy nose of the later models......



What kind of percentage of older models get the nose-job? Sounds like a 

question for Barry....



Steve

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n395v

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 450

Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 5:43 am Post subject: Re: Shrike nose

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		  I must be in the minority prefering the snub-nose of the older Commanders 	


Nope. I suspect most of us prefer that classic buxom look.

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barry.collman(at)air-brit
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Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 5:48 am Post subject: Shrike nose

Hi Steve,



Well, it is indeed a question for me!



I have traced about 270 of the Bathtub and Speedline nacelle Models that have

been modified with the installation of a Miller nose.



There were 1,865 airframes built under the 'old' msn system, but some of these

left the factory with the long nose.



Without refining everything down to the last decimal point, the answer is

approximately 15%.



Very Best Regards,

Barry



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amg(at)nc.rr.com
Guest

Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 6:25 am Post subject: Shrike nose

My original question was not  intended to change my model 500 from the 

 original nose, but to try to see if  this increased the value of a 

project I know of. I appreciate all the response from  all of you. Gap 

seals is not an option for me as I have a 2500 ft. (paved) strip of my 

own, and understand this inhibits the climb performance somewhat. 

Comments???



Roland

Barry Collman wrote:



[quote]



Hi Steve,



Well, it is indeed a question for me!



I have traced about 270 of the Bathtub and Speedline nacelle Models that have

been modified with the installation of a Miller nose.



There were 1,865 airframes built under the 'old' msn system, but some of these

left the factory with the long nose.



Without refining everything down to the last decimal point, the answer is

approximately 15%.



Very Best Regards,

Barry



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moe(at)rosspistons.com
Guest

Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 7:53 am Post subject: Shrike nose

Roland,



You are most likely correct in your feelings that Flap Gap Seals are not a

good idea if you operate on a 2,500 foot strip.

Moe

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YOURTCFG(at)aol.com
Guest

Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 10:56 am Post subject: Shrike nose

In a message dated 1/16/2006 5:48:55 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,  

barry.collman(at)air-britain.co.uk writes:



I have  traced about 270 of the Bathtub and Speedline nacelle Models that have

been  modified with the installation of a Miller nose.

SIR BARRY.

 

        You forgot the 6 that had  the "Little Rock" nose installed;_)  jb

barry.collman(at)air-brit
Guest

Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 1:04 pm Post subject: Shrike nose

No, no, no. I didn't forget. Just wanted to see if anyone was on the ball.!



Well done JimBob!!



Barry 



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bowing74(at)earthlink.net
Guest

Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 2:34 pm Post subject: Shrike nose

Maybe a relief tube to go with those loooong range tanks.



bilbo



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BillLeff1(at)aol.com
Guest

Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 5:35 pm Post subject: Shrike nose

Flap gap seals actually improve takeoff performance even though they close  

off the gap somewhat. 

 

Bill Leff

YOURTCFG(at)AOL.COM
Guest

Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 6:19 pm Post subject: Shrike nose

In a message dated 1/16/2006 5:36:24 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,  

BillLeff1(at)aol.com writes:



Flap gap  seals actually improve takeoff performance even though they close   

off the gap somewhat.

That is not true:-)  I have empirical knowledge of this.  I  operated from a 

very short (1600) strip at 2500 ft above sea level.  After  installing the gap 

seals, the TO (and landing) performance suffered  noticeably.  In fact, I was 

so disappointed that I never painted the gap  seals, wondering if I might 

remove them.  They do however give the  advertised increase in speed.  If you 

always fly from a long (3000 ft) I  recommend them.  jb

tylor.hall(at)sbcglobal.n
Guest

Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 7:07 pm Post subject: Shrike nose

Has anyone tried to add Vortex Generators on a field approval?



There is one 500B that has them on it and I was told that they were a  

great help in lowering approach speeds and lower single engine  

control speed.  They were installed on a one time STC.

Sir Berry can tell us who has them.



Tylor Hall



On Jan 16, 2006, at 7:19 PM, YOURTCFG(at)aol.com wrote:



 	  Quote: 	
		   

 In a message dated 1/16/2006 5:36:24 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,

 BillLeff1(at)aol.com writes:



 Flap gap  seals actually improve takeoff performance even though  

 they close

 off the gap somewhat.

 That is not true:-)  I have empirical knowledge of this.  I   

 operated from a

 very short (1600) strip at 2500 ft above sea level.  After   

 installing the gap

 seals, the TO (and landing) performance suffered  noticeably.  In  

 fact, I was

 so disappointed that I never painted the gap  seals, wondering if I  

 might

 remove them.  They do however give the  advertised increase in  

 speed.  If you

 always fly from a long (3000 ft) I  recommend them.  jb

barry.collman(at)air-brit
Guest

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2006 3:30 am Post subject: Shrike nose

Hi Tylor,



No, I can't! Vortex Generators is an item I don't track. I do recall seeing a 

few Forms 337 for their installation, but to find them again.........



Best Regards,

Barry



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amg(at)nc.rr.com
Guest

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2006 4:31 am Post subject: Shrike nose

Hello all,



Try landshorter.com.



Roland



Barry Collman wrote:



[quote]



Hi Tylor,



No, I can't! Vortex Generators is an item I don't track. I do recall seeing a 

few Forms 337 for their installation, but to find them again.........



Best Regards,

Barry



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Jerry Sprayberry

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 15
Location: Summerville, GA

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2006 6:53 am Post subject: Shrike nose

I hate to get into this one, However, I have Pictures of N198JW 50FT. in the 

air, 1000FT from start of take-off from my 1900 FT grass strip 800 Ft 

Elevation. I can't complain about that performance.



My Two Cent's worth JRS.

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bertberry1(at)aol.com
Guest

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2006 7:02 am Post subject: Shrike nose

Hey JB,



Maybe the magic doesn't work until you paint them.



Bert

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