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		n223rv(at)wolflakeairport Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Fri May 23, 2014 9:59 am    Post subject: 406 ELT and batteries | 
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				Do they make a 406 ELT with D cell batteries?  I can only find one with the expensive lithium replaceable batteries....
 
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		swayze(at)europa.com Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Fri May 23, 2014 1:36 pm    Post subject: 406 ELT and batteries | 
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				You have to remember, the lithium batteries will last 5 years. So how 
 much would one spend on regular D-cell batteries during that time? 
 Last thing you want is to have a mayday and your batteries are dead 
 because you forgot to replace them. Something to think about. Just my 2-cents.
 
 At 10:56 AM 5/23/2014, you wrote:
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 Do they make a 406 ELT with D cell batteries?  I can only find one 
 with the expensive lithium replaceable batteries....
 
 Thanks
 -Mike Kraus
 
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				 Posted: Fri May 23, 2014 2:57 pm    Post subject: 406 ELT and batteries | 
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				I've got some D cells on the shelf that came out of my old 121.5 ELT 
 years ago, due to 'timing out'. The date code is 2008. They all still 
 show well above 1.5 volts. Alkaline batteries last a looong time sitting 
 'on the shelf', which is (hopefully) what they are doing in an ELT.
 
 Without debating the merits of 406 ELTs, sometimes 'new' really means 
 'more money' for the guy who paid the regulator.
 
 Charlie
 On 5/23/2014 4:35 PM, Bruce Swayze wrote:
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  You have to remember, the lithium batteries will last 5 years. So how 
  much would one spend on regular D-cell batteries during that time? 
  Last thing you want is to have a mayday and your batteries are dead 
  because you forgot to replace them. Something to think about. Just my 
  2-cents.
 
  At 10:56 AM 5/23/2014, you wrote:
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 > Do they make a 406 ELT with D cell batteries?  I can only find one 
 > with the expensive lithium replaceable batteries....
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 > Thanks
 > -Mike Kraus
 
 
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		flying-nut(at)cfl.rr.com Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Fri May 23, 2014 3:10 pm    Post subject: 406 ELT and batteries | 
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				On 5/23/2014 6:56 PM, Charlie England wrote:
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  I've got some D cells on the shelf that came out of my old 121.5 ELT 
  years ago, due to 'timing out'. The date code is 2008. They all still 
  show well above 1.5 volts.
 You might put a load on them .... like a flashlight bulb ... and see the 
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 voltage drop a lot.  I wouldn't put those batteries where you might need 
 to depend on them.
 Linn
  	  | Quote: | 	 		   Alkaline batteries last a looong time sitting 'on the shelf', which is 
  (hopefully) what they are doing in an ELT.
 
  Without debating the merits of 406 ELTs, sometimes 'new' really means 
  'more money' for the guy who paid the regulator.
 
  Charlie
  On 5/23/2014 4:35 PM, Bruce Swayze wrote:
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 > You have to remember, the lithium batteries will last 5 years. So how 
 > much would one spend on regular D-cell batteries during that time? 
 > Last thing you want is to have a mayday and your batteries are dead 
 > because you forgot to replace them. Something to think about. Just my 
 > 2-cents.
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 > At 10:56 AM 5/23/2014, you wrote:
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 >> <n223rv(at)wolflakeairport.net>
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 >> Do they make a 406 ELT with D cell batteries?  I can only find one 
 >> with the expensive lithium replaceable batteries....
 >>
 >> Thanks
 >> -Mike Kraus
 >
 
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				 Posted: Fri May 23, 2014 3:22 pm    Post subject: 406 ELT and batteries | 
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				I had to replace the lithium batteries in my 406 ELT to obtain an 
 airworthiness certificate. I bought the 406 ELT too early and couldn't 
 prove the date on the batteries.
 
 I purchased a $5 D-Cell flashlight on sale at the local grocery store 
 and added a $5 6-Volt LED to keep my old $70 lithium batteries in. Best 
 damn $5 flashlight ever.
 
 john
 On 5/23/2014 2:35 PM, Bruce Swayze wrote:
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  You have to remember, the lithium batteries will last 5 years. So how 
  much would one spend on regular D-cell batteries during that time? 
  Last thing you want is to have a mayday and your batteries are dead 
  because you forgot to replace them. Something to think about. Just my 
  2-cents.
 
  At 10:56 AM 5/23/2014, you wrote:
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 > <n223rv(at)wolflakeairport.net>
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 > Do they make a 406 ELT with D cell batteries?  I can only find one 
 > with the expensive lithium replaceable batteries....
 >
 > Thanks
 > -Mike Kraus
 
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		n223rv(at)wolflakeairport Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Sat May 24, 2014 5:35 am    Post subject: 406 ELT and batteries | 
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				The replacement battery from AS&S is currently $144.  Divided by 5 is $28.80 per year....  4 D-cell batteries are under $10.  So it's about 3X more expensive and less readily available as you can buy D-cell batteries anywhere!
 
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  You have to remember, the lithium batteries will last 5 years. So how much would one spend on regular D-cell batteries during that time? Last thing you want is to have a mayday and your batteries are dead because you forgot to replace them. Something to think about. Just my 2-cents.
  
  At 10:56 AM 5/23/2014, you wrote:
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 > Do they make a 406 ELT with D cell batteries?  I can only find one with the expensive lithium replaceable batteries....
 > 
 > Thanks
 > -Mike Kraus
  
  
  
  
  
  
 
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				 Posted: Sat May 24, 2014 6:53 am    Post subject: 406 ELT and batteries | 
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				Have had nothing but trouble from leaking D Cells. By the time I have pulled off the wing tip and cleaned up the mess, $144 looks reasonable, very reasonable.
 
 I believe (not near manual) my new ELT does battery check on startup. Sweet!
 
 Let me see, a  battery for the ELT, ELT panel indicator, the Dynon, GPS, Intercom, and flashlight. Hmmmm, maybe I need to rethink all this ?u
 
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 From: "Michael Kraus" <n223rv(at)wolflakeairport.net>
 Sent: May 24, 2014 6:40 AM
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 Subject: Re: 406 ELT and batteries
 
  
 The replacement battery from AS&S is currently $144.  Divided by 5 is $28.80 per year....  4 D-cell batteries are under $10.  So it's about 3X more expensive and less readily available as you can buy D-cell batteries anywhere!
 
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  	  | Quote: | 	 		   On May 23, 2014, at 5:35 PM, Bruce Swayze <swayze(at)europa.com> wrote:
 
  
 
  You have to remember, the lithium batteries will last 5 years. So how much would one spend on regular D-cell batteries during that time? Last thing you want is to have a mayday and your batteries are dead because you forgot to replace them. Something to think about. Just my 2-cents.
 
  At 10:56 AM 5/23/2014, you wrote:
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 > Do they make a 406 ELT with D cell batteries?  I can only find one with the expensive lithium replaceable batteries....
 >
 > Thanks
 > -Mike Kraus
 
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		Bob Collins
 
  
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				 Posted: Sat May 24, 2014 7:39 am    Post subject: 406 ELT and batteries | 
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				Don't forget that we're only allowed to use HALF the useful life an ELT 
 battery or batteries.
 On 5/24/2014 8:33 AM, Michael Kraus wrote:
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  The replacement battery from AS&S is currently $144.  Divided by 5 is $28.80 per year....  4 D-cell batteries are under $10.  So it's about 3X more expensive and less readily available as you can buy D-cell batteries anywhere!
 
  Sent from my iPhone
 
 > On May 23, 2014, at 5:35 PM, Bruce Swayze <swayze(at)europa.com> wrote:
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 > You have to remember, the lithium batteries will last 5 years. So how much would one spend on regular D-cell batteries during that time? Last thing you want is to have a mayday and your batteries are dead because you forgot to replace them. Something to think about. Just my 2-cents.
 >
 > At 10:56 AM 5/23/2014, you wrote:
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 >> Do they make a 406 ELT with D cell batteries?  I can only find one with the expensive lithium replaceable batteries....
 >>
 >> Thanks
 >> -Mike Kraus
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		Larry Bowen
 
  
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				 Posted: Sat May 24, 2014 7:50 am    Post subject: 406 ELT and batteries | 
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				In the past I've rolled my own battery to replace the official ELT battery. Taking the wrapper off of the old one revealed nine ordinary 9 volts. Easy decision. 
 
 On Saturday, May 24, 2014, Michael Kraus <n223rv(at)wolflakeairport.net (n223rv(at)wolflakeairport.net)> wrote:
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  The replacement battery from AS&S is currently $144.  Divided by 5 is $28.80 per year....  4 D-cell batteries are under $10.  So it's about 3X more expensive and less readily available as you can buy D-cell batteries anywhere!
   
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  > You have to remember, the lithium batteries will last 5 years. So how much would one spend on regular D-cell batteries during that time? Last thing you want is to have a mayday and your batteries are dead because you forgot to replace them. Something to think about. Just my 2-cents.
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