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Gary.A.Sobek

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
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Location: SoCAL USA

Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 7:09 am Post subject: Want your input on iphone vs android

iPhone and iPad with Foreflight for over 3-years.

     Had an Android tablet a little over a year ago and I got rid of it     after a short time as there were only bad aviation apps.

     

     

     On 09-18-2014 10:29 AM,       cheathco(at)cox.net (cheathco(at)cox.net) wrote:

     

     [quote]                     My contract is up, I used hardly           any data paying $91. also thinking about pay as you go.           Android has good reviews on flying apps as well as iphone. let           me know what you are using/thinking. Charlie

       

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Larry Bowen

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 802
Location: NC, USA

Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 7:25 am Post subject: Want your input on iphone vs android

I prefer Android in general and tried to be content with the flying apps, but they all fell short compared to those available on Apple. I eventually went Ipad mini and iPhone 5S. I still think it was the right choice, at least as far a flying related apps go. It might be a good opportunity to try the iPhone 6 Plus to meet your phone and tablet needs in one device.



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[quote]     My contract is up, I used hardly any data paying  $91. also thinking about pay as you go. Android has good reviews on flying apps  as well as iphone. let me know what you are using/thinking.  Charlie

 



   	 		 			 				 			 		 		 			

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Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 7:28 am Post subject: Want your input on iphone vs android

On 9/18/2014 9:29 AM, cheathco(at)cox.net (cheathco(at)cox.net)       wrote:

     

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		                       My contract is up, I used hardly           any data paying $91. also thinking about pay as you go.           Android has good reviews on flying apps as well as iphone. let           me know what you are using/thinking. Charlie

       

     	
     I'm currently using an iphone 4 (with no data plan) on ATT prepaid:     $100 per year for 1000 minutes, and they roll over each year as long     as you renew before the end of the year. You can also go     month-to-month, but it's easier for me to pay once a year.

     

     I have SkyCharts Pro on the phone (I think it was a one-time charge     of $20). Works great for my vfr cross country flying, but limited     features; unlike the higher dollar programs.

     

     I also have a Nexus 7 tablet (1st generation) that works fine in the     cockpit. 2nd gen are supposed to be even better. I'm running Avare     on it (free); also works great, again with somewhat limited     features.

     

     I've considered buying an android phone and switching phone service     to one of the prepaid $50/month unlimited voice/data plans, but I     don't need data on-the-go often enough to justify an extra $40/month     for data. There are cheaper data plans out there for low volume use,     especially for just phone use (no tablet connectivity).

     

     These days, a phone contract makes no sense unless you're     'grandfathered' into one of the old no-limit, no-throttle programs     that no one sells anymore. 

     

     If you have one of the grandfathered unlimited data plans, I'd bet     you could 'sublet' your number to a friend/relative who needs lots     of data, for enough money to get yourself a new phone/number/prepaid     plan for free. 

     

     Charlie

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Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 7:45 am Post subject: Want your input on iphone vs android

On 9/18/2014 10:29 AM, cheathco(at)cox.net (cheathco(at)cox.net)       wrote:

     

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		                       My contract is up, I used hardly           any data paying $91. also thinking about pay as you go.           Android has good reviews on flying apps as well as iphone. let           me know what you are using/thinking. Charlie

       

     	
     Can't comment on iphone .....

     I have AT&T service but like my buddy's T-mobile contract     better.  I might switch since they'll buy your contract.

     

     I don't use much data (2 GB) either, doing most stuff on my home     wifi.  Only time I seem to use data is looking at weather when I'm     away from home. Also, when you're away from home, almost any fast     food place has wifi.  If you're a Brighthouse subscriber they have     free wifi spread around too.

     

     I have android phone and tablet.  I have anywheremap on the tablet     that I fly with, but also have avare on both.  I have lifetime     IFR/VFR subscription for anywheremap, but that seems to be their     lifetime, not mine.  Avare is free, and is constantly being upgraded     .... by volunteers who write the code so it should always be free     ..... donations accepted.

     Linn  

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Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 7:47 am Post subject: Want your input on iphone vs android

I got addicted to ForeFlight on the iPad.  I got a WiFi only iPad with a Bad Elf GPS.  While WiFi is needed for flight planning weather, I never had a situation where I was not able to find WiFi when needed.  This of course eliminates the monthly data bill.  I like the set up.



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My contract is up, I used hardly any data paying $91. also thinking about pay as you go. Android has good reviews on flying apps as well as iphone. let me know what you are using/thinking. Charlie



 





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Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 7:50 am Post subject: Want your input on iphone vs android

If you are using a newer iPhone 5or 5s and your contact is up you can use Straight talk for $45 a mouth unlimited talk/text and I think 2 gigs of Data. 



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On Sep 18, 2014, at 9:29 AM, <cheathco(at)cox.net (cheathco(at)cox.net)> <cheathco(at)cox.net (cheathco(at)cox.net)> wrote:

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Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 8:10 am Post subject: Want your input on iphone vs android

I am using an iPad Mini in the cockpit with Foreflight Pro.  I love the software but the Mini screen is almost impossible to read on all but a very cloudy day.  Does anyone know of a tablet or whatever that will run Foreflight, but has a sunlight readable screen?

 

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On 9/18/2014 9:29 AM, cheathco(at)cox.net (cheathco(at)cox.net) wrote:

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My contract is up, I used hardly any data paying $91. also thinking about pay as you go. Android has good reviews on flying apps as well as iphone. let me know what you are using/thinking. Charlie



 	


I'm currently using an iphone 4 (with no data plan) on ATT prepaid: $100 per year for 1000 minutes, and they roll over each year as long as you renew before the end of the year. You can also go month-to-month, but it's easier for me to pay once a year.



I have SkyCharts Pro on the phone (I think it was a one-time charge of $20). Works great for my vfr cross country flying, but limited features; unlike the higher dollar programs.



I also have a Nexus 7 tablet (1st generation) that works fine in the cockpit. 2nd gen are supposed to be even better. I'm running Avare on it (free); also works great, again with somewhat limited features.



I've considered buying an android phone and switching phone service to one of the prepaid $50/month unlimited voice/data plans, but I don't need data on-the-go often enough to justify an extra $40/month for data. There are cheaper data plans out there for low volume use, especially for just phone use (no tablet connectivity).



These days, a phone contract makes no sense unless you're 'grandfathered' into one of the old no-limit, no-throttle programs that no one sells anymore. 



If you have one of the grandfathered unlimited data plans, I'd bet you could 'sublet' your number to a friend/relative who needs lots of data, for enough money to get yourself a new phone/number/prepaid plan for free. 



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Gary.A.Sobek

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Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 8:14 am Post subject: Want your input on iphone vs android

Have had an AT&T iPhone so long that I have UNLIMITED data plus     get a 25% discount from the company I retired from on my AT&T     data and voice plans.Â  32GB iPad2 is AT&T but was never     activated. Only used on WiFi networks at home, hotels, and FBOs.     Thought it was worth the $130 Apple premium to get a built in GPS     that will not break off or require an additional charger.Â  BTW, I     typically use less than 1GB data per month on my iPhone 5S except     for when I travel or am on vacation.Â  Could move to cheaper dataplan     but cannot get 25% discount on the cheaper data plan.Â  With the     discount, I am only $2.50 a month more than the limited data plan.Â      When traveling or on vacation, I save by keeping my unlimited iPhone     data.

     

     Replacement iPad was / is 64GB iPad Mini with Retina on T-Mobile.     T-Mobile has FREE 200 MB each month for life.Â  Have used iPad Mini a     few times on Cell network but T-Mobile typically only has data in     big cities.

     

     Foreflight is my standard App.Â  Have SkyCharts Pro but quit using it     as Foreflight has the best user interface.Â  WingX, Garmin Pilot, and     FlyQ (Seattle Avionics) are all good but I like Foreflight best so I     pay Foreflight for a subscription the past 3-years.

     

     Any iPad you get for aviation use REQUIRES Anti Glare Screen     protector. iPad is not very usable in the RV Cockpit without the     Anti Glare Screen Protector.

     

     Gary

     

     [quote]       On Sep 18, 2014, at 9:29 AM, <cheathco(at)cox.net (cheathco(at)cox.net)> <cheathco(at)cox.net (cheathco(at)cox.net)>         wrote:

         

       

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Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 8:42 am Post subject: Want your input on iphone vs android

I use an Android tablet that is WiFi only (no data contract at all!) and run Naviator (http://www.naviatorapp.com/)  as my primary flight application.  It’s not free ($35/year), but it has been worth the price from my perspective.  The developer is very responsive to issues that people bring up on the forum. 

  

As someone else mentioned, I too have been experimenting with Avare (http://apps4av.com/avare-overview/), but  I don’t think it is quite there yet.  But as was also mentioned it is being upgraded regularly, so maybe it will get there soon! 

  

I’ve also been playing with Fltpln Go (http://fltplan.com) which is also free.  It has a lot of nice  features as well. 

As long as you have WiFi available on the ground, I don’t see a big need for a data plan on my tablet.  I also have an Android phone,  but all of my flight planning is done on the tablet. 

  

Just my $0.02. 

  

Paul A. Fisher 

RV-7A N18PF 

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Gary.A.Sobek

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 217
Location: SoCAL USA

Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 8:54 am Post subject: Want your input on iphone vs android

Garry:

     

     You must get an Anti Glare screen protector.  I typically use a     CHEAP one.

     

     Here is a link to one that is reasonable in cost.

 http://smile.amazon.com/Halo-Screen-Protector-Anti-Glare-Retina/dp/B00AOK54MA/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1411058952&sr=8-2&keywords=iPad+mini+anti+glare+screen+protector

     

     I agree that the iPad is not very useful in the cockpit without an     Anti Glare Screen protector.  I used an iPad with an Anti Glare     screen protector in Southern California for more than two years with     very few viewing issues in my RV.  Yes I fly over 100 hours per     year.

     

     Gary

     

     On 09-18-2014 12:07 PM, Garry Stout       wrote:

     

     [quote]                       <![endif]-->   <![endif]-->                

I             am using an iPad Mini in the cockpit with Foreflight Pro.  I             love the software but the Mini screen is almost impossible             to read on all but a very cloudy day.  Does anyone know of a             tablet or whatever that will run Foreflight, but has a             sunlight readable screen?         

          

Garry             Stout         

          

                                  

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On 9/18/2014 9:29 AM, cheathco(at)cox.net (cheathco(at)cox.net)             wrote:         

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My                 contract is up, I used hardly any data paying $91. also                 thinking about pay as you go. Android has good reviews                 on flying apps as well as iphone. let me know what you                 are using/thinking. Charlie           

           

          	
         

I'm currently using an iphone 4 (with no           data plan) on ATT prepaid: $100 per year for 1000 minutes, and           they roll over each year as long as you renew before the end           of the year. You can also go month-to-month, but it's easier           for me to pay once a year.

           

           I have SkyCharts Pro on the phone (I think it was a one-time           charge of $20). Works great for my vfr cross country flying,           but limited features; unlike the higher dollar programs.

           

           I also have a Nexus 7 tablet (1st generation) that works fine           in the cockpit. 2nd gen are supposed to be even better. I'm           running Avare on it (free); also works great, again with           somewhat limited features.

           

           I've considered buying an android phone and switching phone           service to one of the prepaid $50/month unlimited voice/data           plans, but I don't need data on-the-go often enough to justify           an extra $40/month for data. There are cheaper data plans out           there for low volume use, especially for just phone use (no           tablet connectivity).

           

           These days, a phone contract makes no sense unless you're           'grandfathered' into one of the old no-limit, no-throttle           programs that no one sells anymore. 

           

           If you have one of the grandfathered unlimited data plans, I'd           bet you could 'sublet' your number to a friend/relative who           needs lots of data, for enough money to get yourself a new           phone/number/prepaid plan for free. 

           

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Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 9:25 am Post subject: Want your input on iphone vs android

I use Brando anti-glare protectors on everything.  They work real well.  

Rumor has it the next iPad Air will have an anti glare screen, so I may not have to anymore.  I like the way the Brando feels, too.

Tim



On Sep 18, 2014, at 11:53 AM, "Gary A. Sobek" <RV6_Flyer(at)hotmail.com (RV6_Flyer(at)hotmail.com)> wrote:

[quote]                   Garry:

     

     You must get an Anti Glare screen protector.  I typically use a     CHEAP one.

     

     Here is a link to one that is reasonable in cost.

 http://smile.amazon.com/Halo-Screen-Protector-Anti-Glare-Retina/dp/B00AOK54MA/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1411058952&sr=8-2&keywords=iPad+mini+anti+glare+screen+protector

     

     I agree that the iPad is not very useful in the cockpit without an     Anti Glare Screen protector.  I used an iPad with an Anti Glare     screen protector in Southern California for more than two years with     very few viewing issues in my RV.  Yes I fly over 100 hours per     year.

     

     Gary

     

     On 09-18-2014 12:07 PM, Garry Stout       wrote:

     

     [quote]                       <![endif]-->   <![endif]-->                

I             am using an iPad Mini in the cockpit with Foreflight Pro.  I             love the software but the Mini screen is almost impossible             to read on all but a very cloudy day.  Does anyone know of a             tablet or whatever that will run Foreflight, but has a             sunlight readable screen?         

          

Garry             Stout         

          

                                  

From:                 owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com)                 [mailto:owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On                   Behalf Of Charlie England

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On 9/18/2014 9:29 AM, cheathco(at)cox.net (cheathco(at)cox.net)             wrote:         

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My                 contract is up, I used hardly any data paying $91. also                 thinking about pay as you go. Android has good reviews                 on flying apps as well as iphone. let me know what you                 are using/thinking. Charlie           

           

          	
         

I'm currently using an iphone 4 (with no           data plan) on ATT prepaid: $100 per year for 1000 minutes, and           they roll over each year as long as you renew before the end           of the year. You can also go month-to-month, but it's easier           for me to pay once a year.

           

           I have SkyCharts Pro on the phone (I think it was a one-time           charge of $20). Works great for my vfr cross country flying,           but limited features; unlike the higher dollar programs.

           

           I also have a Nexus 7 tablet (1st generation) that works fine           in the cockpit. 2nd gen are supposed to be even better. I'm           running Avare on it (free); also works great, again with           somewhat limited features.

           

           I've considered buying an android phone and switching phone           service to one of the prepaid $50/month unlimited voice/data           plans, but I don't need data on-the-go often enough to justify           an extra $40/month for data. There are cheaper data plans out           there for low volume use, especially for just phone use (no           tablet connectivity).

           

           These days, a phone contract makes no sense unless you're           'grandfathered' into one of the old no-limit, no-throttle           programs that no one sells anymore. 

           

           If you have one of the grandfathered unlimited data plans, I'd           bet you could 'sublet' your number to a friend/relative who           needs lots of data, for enough money to get yourself a new           phone/number/prepaid plan for free. 

           

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Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2014 6:22 am Post subject: Want your input on iphone vs android

Thanks Tim.

Garry

 

 

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I use Brando anti-glare protectors on everything.  They work real well.  



Rumor has it the next iPad Air will have an anti glare screen, so I may not have to anymore.  I like the way the Brando feels, too.



Tim

On Sep 18, 2014, at 11:53 AM, "Gary A. Sobek" <RV6_Flyer(at)hotmail.com (RV6_Flyer(at)hotmail.com)> wrote:

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Garry:



You must get an Anti Glare screen protector.  I typically use a CHEAP one.



Here is a link to one that is reasonable in cost.

http://smile.amazon.com/Halo-Screen-Protector-Anti-Glare-Retina/dp/B00AOK54MA/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1411058952&sr=8-2&keywords=iPad+mini+anti+glare+screen+protector



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Ollie Washburn

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Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2014 6:27 am Post subject: Want your input on iphone vs android

You need a Skyguardz shield. No glare and no finger prints.



Sent from my iPad



On Sep 18, 2014, at 12:07 PM, "Garry Stout" <garrys(at)tampabay.rr.com (garrys(at)tampabay.rr.com)> wrote:

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I am using an iPad Mini in the cockpit with Foreflight Pro.  I love the software but the Mini screen is almost impossible to read on all but a very cloudy day.  Does anyone know of a tablet or whatever that will run Foreflight, but has a sunlight readable screen?

 

Garry Stout

 

 

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On 9/18/2014 9:29 AM, cheathco(at)cox.net (cheathco(at)cox.net) wrote:

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My contract is up, I used hardly any data paying $91. also thinking about pay as you go. Android has good reviews on flying apps as well as iphone. let me know what you are using/thinking. Charlie



 	


I'm currently using an iphone 4 (with no data plan) on ATT prepaid: $100 per year for 1000 minutes, and they roll over each year as long as you renew before the end of the year. You can also go month-to-month, but it's easier for me to pay once a year.



I have SkyCharts Pro on the phone (I think it was a one-time charge of $20). Works great for my vfr cross country flying, but limited features; unlike the higher dollar programs.



I also have a Nexus 7 tablet (1st generation) that works fine in the cockpit. 2nd gen are supposed to be even better. I'm running Avare on it (free); also works great, again with somewhat limited features.



I've considered buying an android phone and switching phone service to one of the prepaid $50/month unlimited voice/data plans, but I don't need data on-the-go often enough to justify an extra $40/month for data. There are cheaper data plans out there for low volume use, especially for just phone use (no tablet connectivity).



These days, a phone contract makes no sense unless you're 'grandfathered' into one of the old no-limit, no-throttle programs that no one sells anymore. 



If you have one of the grandfathered unlimited data plans, I'd bet you could 'sublet' your number to a friend/relative who needs lots of data, for enough money to get yourself a new phone/number/prepaid plan for free. 



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