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darinh

Joined: 20 Apr 2006
Posts: 327
Location: Utah

Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 3:45 pm Post subject: Extra tubes anyone??

I know this is a very long shot but does anyone have a set of 850x6 tubes they aren't using or don't want?  I have had a set on order from Cheif for a couple months now and they are telling me it will be at least the end of this year, first of next before they start making them again.  My plane is not flying yet but at this rate, I figure I better start looking now or I won't be flying for many years to come...at least on my 850's.  I guess I could go with the 800's (they are in stock) if I can't find any of the 850's but I am hoping someone has a pair they aren't using.



thanks,



Darin



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morid(at)northland.lib.mi
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Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 4:09 pm Post subject: Extra tubes anyone??

Try Dessler Tire.  It's a big outfit that focuses on aviation and I can't

imagine them not having what you need.

Deke



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darinh

Joined: 20 Apr 2006
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Location: Utah

Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 7:13 pm Post subject: Re: Extra tubes anyone??

Tried Desser...they are out of stock also.  They don't have any 850's in stock regardless of brand.  I think I have tried nearly all the major suppliers and some of the not so major ones.  It is the same story everywhere...something to do with McCreary and Goodyear loosing their rubber supplier and having to produce new molds, etc.  This bites!

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morid(at)northland.lib.mi
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Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 3:41 am Post subject: Extra tubes anyone??

If you really want to fly perhaps the easy way would be to just go to a

different size tire/tube until the 850s are available?

Deke



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shoeless(at)barefootpilot
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Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 3:42 am Post subject: Extra tubes anyone??

Darin,

I have been thinking about a pair of 850's also. Keep in mind that a pair of 

850's will add 20 lbs to your empty weight. Yep, they really are that much 

heavier than 600's.



You would be amazed at the rough places I have landed our model 5 (the same 

as your model 7 for all practical purposes) with just plain old 600's. One 

of the reasons that I wanted the 850's is because it will raise the front 

end of the plane when on the ground thus increasing the angle of incidence 

of the wing. This is actually a limiting factor of the kitfox for short 

field op's. The standing angle of the wing is much lower than the stall 

angle. This causes the fox to use more distance for takeoff than it should. 

Also, if you do true full stall landings you will be banging the tailwheel 

down on the ground at stall with the mains still up in the air. This is why 

tri gear kitfoxes can take off and land shorter than tailwheel kitfoxes.



As far as rough field ops are concerned the biggest limiting factor there is 

the landing gear. If you are using the spring aluminum gear, note how close 

together are the forward and aft attachment points. Because of this you are 

at greater risk of shearing off your gear than would be a supercub. If you 

are thinking that the 850's will be good for landing on really rough areas, 

perhaps over large rocks, tree limbs or ruts in the ground, keep in mind the 

landing gear. The larger tires will only help a little. In fact they may 

give you a false sense of security,  causing you to land in conditions that 

will rip the gear off anyway. In my experience, the 800's should be adequate 

for all but roughest stuff, and for that, the 850's won't be enough better 

to matter. You would need to step to a pair of AK Bushwheels.

Btw, the 800's are 10 lbs heavier than 600's.

Best regards,

Cliff

Model 5 Lyc 0-235

Erie, Co



I know this is a very long shot but does anyone have a set of 850x6 tubes 

they aren't using or don't want?  I have had a set on order from Cheif for a 

couple months now and they are telling me it will be at least the end of 

this year, first of next before they start making them again.  My plane is 

not flying yet but at this rate, I figure I better start looking now or I 

won't be flying for many years to come...at least on my 850's.  I guess I 

could go with the 800's (they are in stock) if I can't find any of the 850's 

but I am hoping someone has a pair they aren't using.



thanks,



Darin





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darinh

Joined: 20 Apr 2006
Posts: 327
Location: Utah

Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 7:13 am Post subject: Re: Extra tubes anyone??

Cliff,



Thanks for the information.  I flew my model III with the 800's and they worked out great...which is what I will do with my 7 if I can't find any tubes.  I don't land anything that is outrageous to the point that I would need the AK Bushwheels, in fact most of my landings are on what I would call unimproved stips such as Fish Lake in Idaho and Mexican Mountain and Happy Canyon in Utah.  These strips can be rough but nothing like big rocks, trees, and the like.  Gopher holes, clump grass and smaller rocks are what I see alot of.  I also land out on the salt flats of the Great Salt Lake and this is where the 850's are great because of the surface area...they tend to stay on the surface of wet sand better.  I also want the extra prop clearance of the 850's.  I will most likely run the 800's until I can find a set of the 850 tubes as it looks as if they will be a while coming...



Darin

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klschooley(at)hotmail.com
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Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 7:41 am Post subject: Extra tubes anyone??

Try your local off road supplier. The tubes he handles are much less costly 

and hold air better than acft. tubes.        Good luck, Ken

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Subject: Re: Extra tubes anyone??

Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2006 20:13:17 -0700

Tried Desser...they are out of stock also.  They don't have any 850's in 

stock regardless of brand.  I think I have tried nearly all the major 

suppliers and some of the not so major ones.  It is the same story 

everywhere...something to do with McCreary and Goodyear loosing their 

rubber supplier and having to produce new molds, etc.  This bites!

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