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				|  Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 8:31 am    Post subject: PPG DCC as top coat? |   |  
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				| To continue, once I have PPG primer down:
 How many coats of DCC were used?
 What type, if any clear coat was used on top surfaces?
 Anyone mix half DCC and Clear for final topcoat on top surfaces?
 Was any other UV protection used except for DCC and perhaps Clear? DPLF
 and K-36 provid no UV protection (according to PPG) and PPG offers no UV
 additives for primers.
 
 Ron Parigoris
 
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				|  Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 9:50 am    Post subject: PPG DCC as top coat? |   |  
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				| Ron
 Painting was another area we knew nothing about so took advice from
 our painter who had done several Europas and alot of work on
 composite racing cars.
 
 He was most adamant we should not mix polyester (car body fillers an
 2 pack paints) with epoxy resins. We first had to apply a barrier
 coat ( we used Aerodur) over our surface filler ( we used polyfibre).
 
 He was then happy for us to use polyester fillers and to spray 2K
 primer and top coat. Had we know this at the start it would have made
 life a lot easier as we found filling pinholes with a very fine
 stopper putty much more effective than repeated coats of epoxy filler.
 
 As I say the thoughts of our painter rather than ourselves  as we
 clain only to know about sanding!
 
 Regards
 
 Paul
 G-GIDY
 
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		| europa flugzeug fabrik 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 1:56 pm    Post subject: Re: PPG DCC as top coat? |   |  
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				|  	  | europa(at)pstewart.f2s.co wrote: |  	  | Painting was another area we knew nothing about so took advice from our painter who had done several Europas and alot of work on  composite racing cars. 
 He was most adamant we should not mix polyester (car body fillers an
 2 pack paints) with epoxy resins.
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 Epoxy and polyster don't live together well, but what does he mean by 2-pack paints?  There's 2-pack epoxies, polyurethanes, and acrylics.  And both water-based and solvent-based in two of these families.
 
 
  	  | Quote: |  	  | We first had to apply a barrier coat ( we used Aerodur) over our surface filler ( we used polyfibre). | 
 SuperFil is an epoxy, which is impervious to just about any solvent.  It's porous enough to provide excellent adhesion. Before adding weight, I like to hear the need for a barrier coat under primer from the paint mfr and who knows what SuperFil is.  Our concern should be adding unnecessary weight.
 
 Fred F.
 
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				|  Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 2:34 pm    Post subject: PPG DCC as top coat? |   |  
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				| As I said Fred only recounting the advice we were given - make of it  
what you will - you  clearly know more about this -I'll stick to the
 sanding
 
 Regards
 
 Paul
 G-GIDY
 Paul
 On 17 Jul 2006, at 22:56, europa flugzeug fabrik wrote:
 
 
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 europa(at)pstewart.f2s.co wrote:
 > Painting was another area we knew nothing about so took advice
 > from our painter who had done several Europas and alot of work on
 > composite racing cars.
 >
 > He was most adamant we should not mix polyester (car body fillers an
 > 2 pack paints) with epoxy resins.
 
 Epoxy and polyster don't live together well, but what does he mean
 by 2-pack paints?  There's 2-pack epoxies, polyurethanes, and
 acrylics.  And both water-based and solvent-based in two of these
 families.
 > We first had to apply a barrier coat ( we used Aerodur) over our
 > surface filler ( we used polyfibre).
 
 SuperFil is an epoxy, which is impervious to just about any
 solvent.  It's porous enough to provide excellent adhesion. Before
 adding weight, I like to hear the need for a barrier coat under
 primer from the paint mfr and who knows what SuperFil is.  Our
 concern should be adding unnecessary weight.
 
 Fred F.
 
 
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				|  Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 4:59 pm    Post subject: PPG DCC as top coat? |   |  
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				| I would recomend Superfil for filler and SmothePrime with UV block applied with a roller as recomended. Don't waste your time mixing your own filler, do a small sample of each  & sand it...huge difference.
 
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