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PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2006 6:45 am    Post subject: The ultimate door latch Reply with quote

This a.m. I had something WAY cool in my inbox. There
is a place that saw the need for a better RV-10 latch
system and they sent me and a couple other
builders some photos. I asked if I could repost
to the list and got the green light, so here you go.
I only wish I had known about these while I was doing
the doors, but now I'll just fly as-is and then
this summer see if I can retrofit these.

Here's a link on my site for those who don't get the
individual emails:

http://www.myrv10.com/miscphotos/DoorLatch/cosslatch.html

I can't see it getting any better than this.

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Hi

We have developed door latches to replace the existing Van's doorlocks.

They have flush handles on the outside and low profile on the inside
with an over centre lock.

They latches for the RV10 cost US$350 per side.

Please see attached photos.

For any inquiries please email us on info(at)cossaviation.com. Please let
us know if you would like to be subscribed to our Newsletter.

Ashley
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2006 7:17 am    Post subject: The ultimate door latch Reply with quote

Those are awesome. A little pricey but not much when you compare it to the
total cost of the project, I guess. Just last night I was looking over some
of the builder websites at interiors and hoping that someone would come up
with a better looking/functioning door handle than the stock vans pieces. I
guess my wish came true. Now, onto the bigger wishes.....

Bill Britton
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2006 7:53 am    Post subject: The ultimate door latch Reply with quote

For $350 it should provide a method to lock the doors. IMHP

Bobby
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2006 8:25 am    Post subject: The ultimate door latch Reply with quote

For $350, I wish I had an affiliation with them....

They know these don't need to be TSO'd right?

Rick S.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2006 8:26 am    Post subject: The ultimate door latch Reply with quote

You know, I just assumed these had a keylock of some sort, but
if so, it's well hidden. I'll email them and ask if it's
locking. If it's just a different style latch, then I agree
with you. If it's locking, then $350 would be expensive
but probably worth it overall.
Tim Olson -- RV-10 #40170
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For $350 it should provide a method to lock the doors. IMHP

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2006 9:04 am    Post subject: The ultimate door latch Reply with quote

I also emailed them but we probably won't hear back for a day or so. I
went to www.cossaviation.com and it shows them as being in South Africa.
Not sure what time zone that is...

Bob #40105

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2006 3:29 pm    Post subject: The ultimate door latch Reply with quote

[quote]Those are awesome. A little pricey but not much when you >compare it to the total cost of the project, I guess. Yes, when you consider the total cost of the project it amounts to only about 1/2 of 1% of the final cost. Percentage wise, this is high for such a component. Looking at it that way it is small, however US$350 per side, $700 per plane without a lock is a bit pricey IMHO. Maybe door handles for Mooneys are as pricey, but there is the added burden of certification. Just as a comparison, a certified Andair fuel valve is about $300. I don't doubt that this hardware is of high quality, however worth it? Some will think so, but I think many will not. William Curtis http://wcurtis.nerv10.com/

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2006 5:47 pm    Post subject: The ultimate door latch Reply with quote

Other than being pricey; sending the money beyond USA borders is risky ; Ask the people who have dealt with the Subaru engine supplier in Canada.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2006 11:32 pm    Post subject: The ultimate door latch Reply with quote

I own a small precision machining company in Holland and the kind of messages as the latest below triggers me to make a post and keeps me from developing parts like a doorlock and sell it for use by other builders also, I will however design a doorlock for my own project because it’s a necessity over here, if there are people who don’t have problems paying money outside the USA, as for myself, I have to buy most of the parts outside my country (read USA) and being interested in having affordable doorlocks (say 100 till 150 Euro per set)  they can contact me, the more I can make the cheaper they will be.
 
Henkjan van der Zouw 40355
 
Sorry for the somewhat strong words but there still are honest people around….
 
 
 
www.zme.nl
 
http://www.kitlog.com/users/index.php?user=phzme&project=1
 
 
 
 
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Verzonden: woensdag 18 januari 2006 2:46
Aan: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Onderwerp: Re: Re: The ultimate door latch
 
Other than being pricey; sending the money beyond USA borders is risky ; Ask the people who have dealt with the Subaru engine supplier in Canada.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2006 11:53 pm    Post subject: The ultimate door latch Reply with quote

G'day,

I know the feeling. The amount of money I have dispatched overseas,
mostly to the US, is more than I care to admit to.

I, for one, would be interested in what you can offer.

Kind Regards,
Scott Lewis
RV-10 40172
Adelaide, South Australia

Henkjan van der Zouw wrote:
Quote:
I own a small precision machining company in Holland and the kind of
messages as the latest below triggers me to make a post and keeps me
from developing parts like a doorlock and sell it for use by other
builders also, I will however design a doorlock for my own project
because it’s a necessity over here, if there are people who don’t have
problems paying money outside the USA, as for myself, I have to buy most
of the parts outside my country (read USA) and being interested in
having affordable doorlocks (say 100 till 150 Euro per set) they can
contact me, the more I can make the cheaper they will be.



Henkjan van der Zouw 40355



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2006 4:34 am    Post subject: The ultimate door latch Reply with quote

Money overseas? The fellow that made an earlier posting about sending
money overseas was not intending to impugn the integrity of Holland,
Canada, Australia or anyone other than perhaps the Romanians that want
money sent via Western Union for a brand new Harley Davidson motorcycle
for $500.

Actually, we don't have to go overseas to get scammed and
short-changed--there's plenty of people/companies that are willing to
accommodate domestically. So apologies to any of our off-shore brethren
if there we any negative implications about honesty, integrity or
quality.

As an aside, I would like to mention my good fortune. Just yesterday I
received noticed that the former minister of Agriculture in Nigeria
wishes to send me $25,000,000 to hold for him in my bank account. When
he gets to the States, I have to turn the money over to him but I get to
keep 10% as an expression of gratitude for my assistance. I was hoping
for 15%, but I will have to be satisfied with 10%. Early this morning,
I must remember to send him my back account information so that he can
wire the money promptly. I just can't believe my luck!

Chuck Jensen
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2006 5:07 am    Post subject: The ultimate door latch Reply with quote

Chuck Jensen wrote:
Quote:
As an aside, I would like to mention my good fortune. Just yesterday I
received noticed that the former minister of Agriculture in Nigeria
wishes to send me $25,000,000 to hold for him in my bank account. When
he gets to the States, I have to turn the money over to him but I get to
keep 10% as an expression of gratitude for my assistance. I was hoping
for 15%, but I will have to be satisfied with 10%. Early this morning,
I must remember to send him my back account information so that he can
wire the money promptly. I just can't believe my luck!

BWAH!!!! Call that luck?!

In the last 2 weeks my email adress has been randomly selected to win no
less that 6 major prizes in international lotteries. I'm cashing
in!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Tongue FIRMLY in cheek,
Scott

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2006 5:15 am    Post subject: The ultimate door latch Reply with quote

The intent was not to impugn the honest non US manufacturers but to suggest
due diligence. Having spent 16 years outside the USA in business assignment
I have seen the scams and have seen the difficulty of dealing with the laws
of a foreign (to me) language and government. My main point is that "if you
won't feel bad if you are being scammed for the money, then by all means buy
the product". On the other hand $350 per handle (as a probable cash
transaction) would indicate caution.

My condolences to those who paid for their Glastar kits in Australia in
2000(?) and received nothing in return. Likewise those USA RV builders who
paid for an engine from Canada (prominently displayed at OSH 2003
,2004,2005) and are flying a Lycoming because the Canadian supplier never
delivered. Try dealing with the lawyers across international borders.

For me, I bought the Glastar kits and the RV kits in entirety as soon as
available and with credit card (which provides some protection under US
law). Having lived through and watched from the outside the BD 5 fiasco
where kits were supplied but no viable engine was ever supplied, I resolved
to avoid that if at all possible. Even with these precautions I still had to
have fabricated, from extrapolated drawings, several steel parts. They were
ordered, paid, backordered but never delivered.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2006 5:27 am    Post subject: The ultimate door latch Reply with quote

Go for it, Henkjan. In an Internet-enabled global economy, if you "build a better mousetrap" and sell it at a reasonable price, word spreads very quickly. And the community of talented RV builders has no geopolitical boundaries.

Seems to me that, in their drive to make things simple, Van's made those door handles a little too simple. They just look plain ugly and out of character with the rest of the technology in the airframe. If you've got a more elegant locking design for the price you mention, count me in.

-Dan Masys
70238 and 40448
Tailcone done; QB fuse and wings arrive next week.


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From: "Henkjan van der Zouw" <henkjan(at)zme.nl>
Date: 2006/01/18 Wed AM 02:38:33 EST
To: <rv10-list(at)matronics.com>
Subject: RE: Re: The ultimate door latch

I own a small precision machining company in Holland and the kind of
messages as the latest below triggers me to make a post and keeps me
from developing parts like a doorlock and sell it for use by other
builders also, I will however design a doorlock for my own project
because it's a necessity over here, if there are people who don't have
problems paying money outside the USA, as for myself, I have to buy most
of the parts outside my country (read USA) and being interested in
having affordable doorlocks (say 100 till 150 Euro per set) they can
contact me, the more I can make the cheaper they will be.



Henkjan van der Zouw 40355



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2006 5:54 am    Post subject: The ultimate door latch Reply with quote

I also will take one. The passenger door will only be opened from the
inside.

Bob K
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2006 6:09 am    Post subject: The ultimate door latch Reply with quote

Before too many folks jump on this, let’s also remember that Andair is in the UK and many of us do business with them.
 
Bob
 

From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Henkjan van der Zouw
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 1:39 AM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: RE: Re: The ultimate door latch

 
I own a small precision machining company in Holland and the kind of messages as the latest below triggers me to make a post and keeps me from developing parts like a doorlock and sell it for use by other builders also, I will however design a doorlock for my own project because it’s a necessity over here, if there are people who don’t have problems paying money outside the USA, as for myself, I have to buy most of the parts outside my country (read USA) and being interested in having affordable doorlocks (say 100 till 150 Euro per set)  they can contact me, the more I can make the cheaper they will be.
 
Henkjan van der Zouw 40355
 
Sorry for the somewhat strong words but there still are honest people around….
 
 
 
www.zme.nl
 
http://www.kitlog.com/users/index.php?user=phzme&project=1
 
 
 
 
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Van: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] Namens David McNeill
Verzonden: woensdag 18 januari 2006 2:46
Aan: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Onderwerp: Re: Re: The ultimate door latch
 
Other than being pricey; sending the money beyond USA borders is risky ; Ask the people who have dealt with the Subaru engine supplier in Canada.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2006 6:13 am    Post subject: The ultimate door latch Reply with quote

Just an update for you all...

Today I got an email again from them regarding the lock. I posted it
on the same page at:
http://www.myrv10.com/miscphotos/DoorLatch/cosslatch.html

Apparently the latch is lockable, using the standard Van's keylock.

With the offering by Henkjan, the competition is heating up, which
is a good thing.

Anyway, it's worth reading their note.
Tim
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[quote] Bobby J. Hughes wrote:

>
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> For $350 it should provide a method to lock the doors. IMHP
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> Bobby
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2006 6:30 am    Post subject: The ultimate door latch Reply with quote

Scott:

Over the years I have tried to offset your flow of funds towards the
U.S. by drinking lots of Fosters . . . so maybe we're even! : )

TDT
40025
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2006 6:38 am    Post subject: The ultimate door latch Reply with quote

Well said, I have been ripped of by more people within the borders of the USA than outside of it. Scammers come in all shapes, sizes and nationalities.
 
Rick S.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2006 7:14 am    Post subject: The ultimate door latch Reply with quote

With 100-150 EUR being $120-$185USD, I would be very interested, especially if they were locking and better looking/streamlined then the ones included in the kit.
Keep us posted, and I would bet you will get many orders. The RV community on a whole is trustworthy, granted there are some that are not, but I have luckily been able to avoid them.
Dan
40269

From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Henkjan van der Zouw
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 2:39 AM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: RE: Re: The ultimate door latch


I own a small precision machining company in Holland and the kind of messages as the latest below triggers me to make a post and keeps me from developing parts like a doorlock and sell it for use by other builders also, I will however design a doorlock for my own project because it’s a necessity over here, if there are people who don’t have problems paying money outside the USA, as for myself, I have to buy most of the parts outside my country (read USA) and being interested in having affordable doorlocks (say 100 till 150 Euro per set)  they can contact me, the more I can make the cheaper they will be.
 
Henkjan van der Zouw 40355
 
Sorry for the somewhat strong words but there still are honest people around….
 
 
 
www.zme.nl
 
http://www.kitlog.com/users/index.php?user=phzme&project=1
 
 
 
 
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Van: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] Namens David McNeill
Verzonden: woensdag 18 januari 2006 2:46
Aan: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Onderwerp: Re: Re: The ultimate door latch
 
Other than being pricey; sending the money beyond USA borders is risky ; Ask the people who have dealt with the Subaru engine supplier in Canada.
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