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Tdawson(at)avidyne.com
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Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 5:37 am Post subject: RV-10 gathering

Someone suggested Dayton, OH, which is fairly central (for those of us

with an eastward view) and has the great Air Force Museum, as well as

Wright Brothers historical sites.   Several handy airports . . .



TDT

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mritter509(at)msn.com
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Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 6:43 am Post subject: RV-10 gathering

How about Lockhart, TX the Bar-B-Que capital of the world for those with a southwesterly view?  Luling, TX, the watermelon captial of the world, is only ten miles away and Austin, TX, the home of the National Football Champion Texas Longhorns, is only 30 miles to the north.  

Mark 

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From:  "Tim Dawson-Townsend" <Tdawson(at)avidyne.com>

Reply-To:  rv10-list(at)matronics.com

To:  <rv10-list(at)matronics.com>

Subject:  RE: RV-10 gathering

Date:  Wed, 9 Aug 2006 09:35:45 -0400

[quote]--> RV10-List message posted by: "Tim Dawson-Townsend" <Tdawson(at)Avidyne.com>

Someone suggested Dayton, OH, which is fairly central (for those of us

with an eastward view) and has the great Air Force Museum, as well as

Wright Brothers historical sites.   Several handy airports . . .



TDT

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mike(at)cleavelandtool.co
Guest

Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 6:53 am Post subject: RV-10 gathering

I guess I will chime in with some opinions since I spend a fair amount of

time at Fly-Ins.



I like the idea of centrally located if people want it to be a growing

organized event.  It is hard enough to organize something year to year in a

fixed location, alternating E&W would be very difficult.  If the object is

to fly somewhere different each year and congregate as a group and then be a

tourist for a few days (like many of the car guys do) that would be fun too.



If a fixed location is decided on it should be within an hours drive from a

major airport for those that want to get there on the airline.  How Oshkosh

made it past this is perplexing to me, but the other major Regional EAA

shows fit this pattern.  There will be lots of flying RV-10 coming up, but

it seems that the building stage guys would be very interested in this type

of thing also.



I would like to see it in February somewhere in the South where the North

half of us could fly down and thaw out for a couple of days.  Rather than

jam it in with all the rest of the spring/summer fly-ins.



.02

Mike Lauritsen

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rvbuilder(at)sausen.net
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Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 7:49 am Post subject: RV-10 gathering

That wouldn't be bad if you can plan it in the one month period where it

isn't raining or over 100.  



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Michael Sausen



Roasting in the Ft Worth area



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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mark Ritter

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To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

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How about Lockhart, TX the Bar-B-Que capital of the world for those with

a southwesterly view?  Luling, TX, the watermelon captial of the world,

is only ten miles away and Austin, TX, the home of the National Football

Champion Texas Longhorns, is only 30 miles to the north.0



Mark



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	From:  "Tim Dawson-Townsend" <Tdawson(at)avidyne.com>

	Reply-To:  rv10-list(at)matronics.com

	To:  <rv10-list(at)matronics.com>

	Subject:  RE: RV-10 gathering

	Date:  Wed, 9 Aug 2006 09:35:45 -0400

	>

<Tdawson(at)Avidyne.com>

	>

	>

	>Someone suggested Dayton, OH, which is fairly central (for

those of us

	>with an eastward view) and has the great Air Force Museum, as

well as

	>Wright Brothers historical sites.   Several handy airports . .

jjessen

Joined: 22 Apr 2006
Posts: 285
Location: OR

Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 8:01 am Post subject: RV-10 gathering

Mike has several good points.  I'd like to be included, even though I'm not

finished, and I'd like it not to be in the busy time of year.  Speaking of

the Midwest and twisters, hail, and other nasty stuff, we also might want it

during the time of year that corresponds to relatively good weather, if

there is such a thing.  New England in the Fall comes to mind.  Course, then

the kids are in school.  



I don't care if it's moved each year.  In fact I think that is best.  We

could spend time discussing the next 5 locations, set those, then add one

location per year beyond that.  We need to have the ability for a person to

fly there commercially and drive for not more than a couple hours to get to

the location.  It should have an attraction for families and the attraction

does not have to about planes.  I don't care the distance, because I'll

either fly myself or fly commercially.  So...



1.  Location in the WORLD does not matter (why are we limiting it to the

States?  I know why, because of numbers, but, hey, maybe every 5th such

meeting goes international.).  

2.  Attractions besides RV-10's does matter.  

3.  Time of year does matter.

4.  Major airport for those not flying or too far away does matter.  

5.  Ability to camp?  Yes, I'd say does matter.  

6.  Some form of organizing committee?  I'd say "probably," so the local

person doesn't get overwhelmed (we had a simple dinner for Oregon RV-10

builders and it still took time to get the message out and the dinner

coordinated.  This other would be more involved, especially as things grow.)

Anything else?  



John J

  



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jim(at)CombsFive.Com
Guest

Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 8:35 am Post subject: RV-10 gathering

One additional point.  Having it in different locations and or times would allow those who are still building to travel by airline or car to see finished airplanes.  Not everyone can get to Sun-N-Fun or Oshkosh.



Jim Combs

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From: "John Jessen" <jjessen(at)rcn.com>

Date: 2006/08/09 Wed AM 11:54:36 EDT

To: <rv10-list(at)matronics.com>

Subject: RE: RE: RV-10 gathering






Mike has several good points.  I'd like to be included, even though I'm not

finished, and I'd like it not to be in the busy time of year.  Speaking of

the Midwest and twisters, hail, and other nasty stuff, we also might want it

during the time of year that corresponds to relatively good weather, if

there is such a thing.  New England in the Fall comes to mind.  Course, then

the kids are in school.  



I don't care if it's moved each year.  In fact I think that is best.  We

could spend time discussing the next 5 locations, set those, then add one

location per year beyond that.  We need to have the ability for a person to

fly there commercially and drive for not more than a couple hours to get to

the location.  It should have an attraction for families and the attraction

does not have to about planes.  I don't care the distance, because I'll

either fly myself or fly commercially.  So...



1.  Location in the WORLD does not matter (why are we limiting it to the

States?  I know why, because of numbers, but, hey, maybe every 5th such

meeting goes international.).  

2.  Attractions besides RV-10's does matter.  

3.  Time of year does matter.

4.  Major airport for those not flying or too far away does matter.  

5.  Ability to camp?  Yes, I'd say does matter.  

6.  Some form of organizing committee?  I'd say "probably," so the local

person doesn't get overwhelmed (we had a simple dinner for Oregon RV-10

builders and it still took time to get the message out and the dinner

coordinated.  This other would be more involved, especially as things grow.)

Anything else?  



John J

  



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Tim(at)MyRV10.com
Guest

Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 9:06 am Post subject: RV-10 gathering

Man, this discussion has really blown up!

More below...



John Jessen wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   

 

 I don't care if it's moved each year.  In fact I think that is best.  We

 could spend time discussing the next 5 locations, set those, then add one

 location per year beyond that.  We need to have the ability for a person to

 fly there commercially and drive for not more than a couple hours to get to

 the location.  It should have an attraction for families and the attraction

 does not have to about planes.  I don't care the distance, because I'll

 either fly myself or fly commercially.  So...

 


	


First, I really don't think we're ready to plan 5 year's worth of

fly-ins.   Second, the goal was to have a fly-in....not a meeting.

We have OSH if someone wants to just meet other people.  OF COURSE

everyone would be welcome, but this "event" is just something

to get people to fly their RV-10's somewhere for a couple days,

and get together.  We don't need another Sun-N-Fun or OSH.

 	  Quote: 	
		   1.  Location in the WORLD does not matter (why are we limiting it to the

 States?  I know why, because of numbers, but, hey, maybe every 5th such

 meeting goes international.).  


	


International?? Sure, there can be one on every continent.

But, if this is a fly-in, how many people want to fly from

Texas to South Africa?  We're really blowing this into something

unmanageble.   Let the people from the various regions set up

various events.  We started this one talking about North America.

Everyone's welcome, but suddenly going international isn't going to

help effectively move our little fly-in forward.

 	  Quote: 	
		   2.  Attractions besides RV-10's does matter.  


	


Absolutely, IF the timeline is long.  Originally I was thinking

of something like fly in on Friday afternoon through Saturday

morning....depending on how far away you are or motivated you are.

Then meet people for Saturday day and evening, and fly home Sunday.

Personally, I wouldn't show up for more than a day and a half.

The thing about the RV-10 is, I can even fly to San Diego, CA

from Wisconsin in 12 hours.....so a centralized fly-in

would be easily accessible in a day in the -10 if weather

cooperated.  Vic made it to Atlanta from OSH in 4.5 hours.

I can fly to central Florida in 7.    If we really had to have

it be East and West separately, then so be it, but a

central one really should be do able.   And I wouldn't worry

quite so much about the family's activities on a huge scale

if it were just a 24 hour period.  It's when we stretch it to

2 or 3 days that I have to worry a lot about that.



 	  Quote: 	
		   3.  Time of year does matter.


	


Personally, I'd avoid any time anywhere near OSH, and any

major holiday's.  And personally I'd try to make it in

as comfortable and calm a time of year as possible.



 	  Quote: 	
		   4.  Major airport for those not flying or too far away does matter.  

 5.  Ability to camp?  Yes, I'd say does matter.  

 6.  Some form of organizing committee?  I'd say "probably," so the local

 person doesn't get overwhelmed (we had a simple dinner for Oregon RV-10

 builders and it still took time to get the message out and the dinner

 coordinated.  This other would be more involved, especially as things grow.)

 


	


At any rate, I see a lot of people commented that centralized

would be good.  I'm sure with creativity we could find a good

place.  But I'd really caution over trying to make this

something huge as my gut feeling is we'd have a very hard

time getting huge droves of -10's to show for an overblown

and complex event.   Look at OSH....there were 37-41 flying,

but only 11 showed up...and that show has probably nearly

every reason for a builder to be excited to fly there.



Pancakes in the a.m., Burgers and Dogs at noon, and a dinner in

the evening, anyone? 



Tim



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 Anything else?  

 

 John J

   

 

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Tdawson(at)avidyne.com
Guest

Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 9:27 am Post subject: RV-10 gathering

I know, let's have the first gathering at Tim's house!



Tim, what's your lat/lon?



TDT

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Tim(at)MyRV10.com
Guest

Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 9:56 am Post subject: RV-10 gathering

Nah, you wouldn't want it here, except for the $3.60/gal

fuel.



Right now I'm wishing I was at N 22.75 degrees / W 77.90 degrees.

I think I need a vacation.   BTW:  That would make a great

RV-10 destination, if we turned it into a week-long.

Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying

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Tim Dawson-Townsend wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   

 

 

 I know, let's have the first gathering at Tim's house!

 

 Tim, what's your lat/lon?

 

 TDT

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jchang10

Joined: 05 Jul 2006
Posts: 227

Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 10:20 am Post subject: RV-10 gathering

22.75,-77.9 => Cuba? Hmmm, google maps actually shows 7 airports in

Cuba! Apparently, Cuba is getting cheap oil from buddy and fellow

US-hater Venezuela, so maybe avgas is super cheap there.



Curiosity got the better of me. Here are some stats run on Tim's OSH

list. This is only for those listing cities in the western hemisphere.



You can see the map here http://www.jline.com/app/rvbuilders/map/



The green arrow represents the avg(lat) avg(long) coordinates below:

 avg(latitude)  	 avg(longitude)

38.468328785714 	-95.406118904762



64 are south of the avg(lat)

62 are north of the avg(lat)



71 are east of the avg(long)

55 are west of the avg(long)



Looking at my map, the town closest to avg(lat), avg(long) is

Williamsburg, KS. Ray is the closest builder in Kansas City.



Unfortunately, Williamsburg, KS is 1900 sm road miles away from me. 

For the next few years, it'll be a drive-in for me.



Jae






Nah, you wouldn't want it here, except for the $3.60/gal

fuel.



Right now I'm wishing I was at N 22.75 degrees / W 77.90 degrees.

I think I need a vacation.   BTW:  That would make a great

RV-10 destination, if we turned it into a week-long.

Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying

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Kellym

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 1706
Location: Sun Lakes AZ

Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 10:26 am Post subject: RV-10 gathering

You could also consider tying into the "lesser" EAA Flyins, Arlington  

and Copperstate...both within 30 min drive of airline airport, both  

with plenty of vendors, etc.

Might not have the same entertainment for family, although Arizona is  

pretty nice at the end of October, and Arlington is pretty nice in the  

summer(when it isn't raining).



Quoting John Jessen <jjessen(at)rcn.com>:



[quote] 



 Mike has several good points.  I'd like to be included, even though I'm not

 finished, and I'd like it not to be in the busy time of year.  Speaking of

 the Midwest and twisters, hail, and other nasty stuff, we also might want it

 during the time of year that corresponds to relatively good weather, if

 there is such a thing.  New England in the Fall comes to mind.  Course, then

 the kids are in school.



 I don't care if it's moved each year.  In fact I think that is best.  We

 could spend time discussing the next 5 locations, set those, then add one

 location per year beyond that.  We need to have the ability for a person to

 fly there commercially and drive for not more than a couple hours to get to

 the location.  It should have an attraction for families and the attraction

 does not have to about planes.  I don't care the distance, because I'll

 either fly myself or fly commercially.  So...



 1.  Location in the WORLD does not matter (why are we limiting it to the

 States?  I know why, because of numbers, but, hey, maybe every 5th such

 meeting goes international.).

 2.  Attractions besides RV-10's does matter.

 3.  Time of year does matter.

 4.  Major airport for those not flying or too far away does matter.

 5.  Ability to camp?  Yes, I'd say does matter.

 6.  Some form of organizing committee?  I'd say "probably," so the local

 person doesn't get overwhelmed (we had a simple dinner for Oregon RV-10

 builders and it still took time to get the message out and the dinner

 coordinated.  This other would be more involved, especially as things grow.)

 Anything else?



 John J

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jjessen

Joined: 22 Apr 2006
Posts: 285
Location: OR

Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 11:55 am Post subject: RV-10 gathering

It's not blown up, Tim, just a wrinkle that would allow those not yet

flying, and there will be plenty of those over the next several years, to be

able to come visit.  Many cannot get to one of the fly-ins, as I could not

this year.  Many do not want to go to an overblown fly-in such as OSH.

Some, not all, might want to visit an RV-10 gathering.  



If all you want are some buds to fly their -10s to a location not far from

you for a weekend get together, fine.  That's cool.  It's nice to be in the

middle of the country.  But a purposeful RV-10 gathering, both of builders

and flyers, wouldn't be all that bad.  It's still a weekend event.  Those

who can make it, do.  Those who want to go to OSH or other fly-ins will.

Those who want to go to Van's Homecoming will.  At present there is no

official RV-10 organization like there is for Cessna or Cirrus or Bonanza,

and there doesn't have to be, but there could certainly be an event similar

to what these organizations put on that can be inclusive.  And, I think that

last word is the whole idea of my post.  



Have a great time at the "flying RV-10" gathering.   I recommend autumn

anywhere in the country.  



John J

  Tailcone



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AV8ORJWC

Joined: 13 Jul 2006
Posts: 1149
Location: Aurora, Oregon "Home of VANS"

Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 2:48 pm Post subject: RV-10 gathering

So much for Oregon.



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John



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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of RV Builder

(Michael Sausen)

Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 8:49 AM

To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: RE: RE: RV-10 gathering



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That wouldn't be bad if you can plan it in the one month period where it

isn't raining or over 100.  



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Michael Sausen



Roasting in the Ft Worth area



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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mark Ritter

Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 9:43 AM

To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: RE: RE: RV-10 gathering



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How about Lockhart, TX the Bar-B-Que capital of the world for those with

a southwesterly view?  Luling, TX, the watermelon captial of the world,

is only ten miles away and Austin, TX, the home of the National Football

Champion Texas Longhorns, is only 30 miles to the north.0



Mark



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	From:  "Tim Dawson-Townsend" <Tdawson(at)avidyne.com>

	Reply-To:  rv10-list(at)matronics.com

	To:  <rv10-list(at)matronics.com>

	Subject:  RE: RV-10 gathering

	Date:  Wed, 9 Aug 2006 09:35:45 -0400

	>

<Tdawson(at)Avidyne.com>

	>

	>

	>Someone suggested Dayton, OH, which is fairly central (for

those of us

	>with an eastward view) and has the great Air Force Museum, as

well as

	>Wright Brothers historical sites.   Several handy airports . .

bob.kaufmann(at)cox.net
Guest

Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 8:31 pm Post subject: RV-10 gathering

Or Ft. Worth, TX the bull shit capital of the world.    

   

Bob K  

         

  

From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mark Ritter

 Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 6:43 AM

 To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

 Subject: RE: RE: RV-10 gathering  

  

     

How about Lockhart, TX the Bar-B-Que capital of the world for those with a southwesterly view?  Luling, TX, the watermelon captial of the world, is only ten miles away and Austin, TX, the home of the [b]National Football Champion[/b] Texas Longhorns, is only 30 miles to the north.   

Mark  

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From:  "Tim Dawson-Townsend" <Tdawson(at)avidyne.com>

 Reply-To:  rv10-list(at)matronics.com

 To:  <rv10-list(at)matronics.com>

 Subject:  RE: RV-10 gathering

 Date:  Wed, 9 Aug 2006 09:35:45 -0400

 >--> RV10-List message posted by: "Tim Dawson-Townsend" <Tdawson(at)Avidyne.com>

 >

 >

 >Someone suggested Dayton,  OH, which is fairly central (for those of us

 >with an eastward view) and has the great Air Force Museum, as well as

 >Wright Brothers historical sites.   Several handy airports . . .

 >

 >TDT

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mritter509(at)msn.com
Guest

Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 2:59 am Post subject: RV-10 gathering

When you have cattle drives in downtown Fort Worth you are going to get a little of that stuff. 

Mark (N410MR)



 [quote]  From: "bob.kaufmann" <bob.kaufmann(at)cox.net>

Reply-To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

To: <rv10-list(at)matronics.com>

Subject: RE: RE: RV-10 gathering

Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2006 21:30:26 -0700



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Or Ft. Worth, TX the bull shit capital of the world.   

  

Bob K 

     

 

From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mark Ritter

Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 6:43 AM

To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: RE: RE: RV-10 gathering

 

   

How about Lockhart, TX the Bar-B-Que capital of the world for those with a southwesterly view?  Luling, TX, the watermelon captial of the world, is only ten miles away and Austin, TX, the home of the [b]National Football Champion[/b] Texas Longhorns, is only 30 miles to the north.  

Mark 

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From:  "Tim Dawson-Townsend" <Tdawson(at)avidyne.com>

Reply-To:  rv10-list(at)matronics.com

To:  <rv10-list(at)matronics.com>

Subject:  RE: RV-10 gathering

Date:  Wed, 9 Aug 2006 09:35:45 -0400

[quote]--> RV10-List message posted by: "Tim Dawson-Townsend" <Tdawson(at)Avidyne.com>

Someone suggested Dayton, OH, which is fairly central (for those of us

with an eastward view) and has the great Air Force Museum, as well as

Wright Brothers historical  sites.   Several handy airports . . .



TDT

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