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Riveting the elevator trim cable anchor brackets

 
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2006 3:52 pm    Post subject: Riveting the elevator trim cable anchor brackets Reply with quote

I have finally come to the location in the plans where it calls for riveting
the cable anchor brackets. I was surprised that the manual calls for blind
rivets (LP4-3). There was so much talk about making special super strong
cable attachment brackets that I question when looking at this rivet
designation, whether the brackets really need to be that strong and if they
were made too strong, whether that might cause a problem some place else.

Those that orderred the custom bracket, are you using solid rivets instead
of the blind ones. Why are the Van's designers wanting blind rivet when
access is completely un-peaded?

Just an interesting question????

John G. 409


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2006 11:40 pm    Post subject: Riveting the elevator trim cable anchor brackets Reply with quote

I believe that the call out for blind rivets is because it's difficult
to impossible to get the cable connected/disconnected without removing
the brackets from the inspection plate. someone felt that it would be
easier to use pop rivets tht could be more easily replaced during an
annual inspection than solid rivets. The most optimum solution would be
an arrangement where An screws could be used and the bracket could be
threaded or alternativly some nut plates attached. once I receive the
CNC bracket, I plan to see if it could be, a; tapped for a #6 or 8
screw. or b. Hard mounted to a broader/wider plate using flush head
rivets, and then putting nutplates on the broader plates, then dimpling
the covers for screws.

Deems Davis # 406
Wings
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I have finally come to the location in the plans where it calls for
riveting the cable anchor brackets. I was surprised that the manual
calls for blind rivets (LP4-3). There was so much talk about making
special super strong cable attachment brackets that I question when
looking at this rivet designation, whether the brackets really need to
be that strong and if they were made too strong, whether that might
cause a problem some place else.

Those that orderred the custom bracket, are you using solid rivets
instead of the blind ones. Why are the Van's designers wanting blind
rivet when access is completely un-peaded?

Just an interesting question????

John G. 409

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 6:56 am    Post subject: Riveting the elevator trim cable anchor brackets Reply with quote

Deems hit it right on the head, when you are putting in the trim cables it is MUCH easier to put the nuuts on the cable then rivet it to the plate. The issue about strength came about becasue some od us had nuts pop off the steel plate with little force which could result in a either no trim or stuck trim situation.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 7:41 am    Post subject: Riveting the elevator trim cable anchor brackets Reply with quote

Now that explains a few things. I guess I will wait on the riveting of the
bracket until I really need to and it will give me more time to think of a
removable method.

Thanks,

JG. 409
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From: Deems Davis <deemsdavis(at)cox.net>
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Subject: Re: Riveting the elevator trim cable anchor brackets
Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 00:40:24 -0700



I believe that the call out for blind rivets is because it's difficult to
impossible to get the cable connected/disconnected without removing the
brackets from the inspection plate. someone felt that it would be easier to
use pop rivets tht could be more easily replaced during an annual
inspection than solid rivets. The most optimum solution would be an
arrangement where An screws could be used and the bracket could be threaded
or alternativly some nut plates attached. once I receive the CNC bracket, I
plan to see if it could be, a; tapped for a #6 or 8 screw. or b. Hard
mounted to a broader/wider plate using flush head rivets, and then putting
nutplates on the broader plates, then dimpling the covers for screws.

Deems Davis # 406
Wings
http://deemsrv10.com/

John Gonzalez wrote:

>
>
>I have finally come to the location in the plans where it calls for
>riveting the cable anchor brackets. I was surprised that the manual calls
>for blind rivets (LP4-3). There was so much talk about making special
>super strong cable attachment brackets that I question when looking at
>this rivet designation, whether the brackets really need to be that strong
>and if they were made too strong, whether that might cause a problem some
>place else.
>
>Those that orderred the custom bracket, are you using solid rivets instead
>of the blind ones. Why are the Van's designers wanting blind rivet when
>access is completely un-peaded?
>
>Just an interesting question????
>
>John G. 409
>
>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List
>


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