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 Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2015 8:24 am Post subject: Cee Baileys windscreen was Re: Windscreen Die |
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I was part of the windscreen design and another local builder the side windows. When the design was shaped on my (pink) cabin I told Cee baileys that there was a chance Vans would have a newer cabin top as they had changed something from the original Green to Pink. As a result 1/4 added all around the windscreen, and I heard less for the windows. This was done to allow for the builder to final fit the plexi on the plane. If it was truly “drop in” without (minor) adjustments there was the chance of there being a gap or not a perfect fit. By adding the extra around it allows the builder to adjust for their specific fit. As precise as I would like to believe the aluminum is, the fiberglass work from Vans is not always the same from one to the other canopy. I assure you that you are doing far less with that windscreen than you would with the Vans. I originally had the Vans and it was hours of cutting and trimming only to find that I had a bulge on my right bottom. The one Cee Baileys made for me was pretty darn close to be perfect once I made the final fit. If I gave the impression that the windscreen was a drop in place, I apologize . I spent about 2-3 hours on mine.
as for the side windows they should be really close to drop in (again with minor extra room for final shaping)
One other item- the plexi in the Cee Baileys is superior to the Vans. it was clearer and shaped more precisely in my case.
Thank you for the feedback!
Pascal
From: Shannon Hicks (civeng123(at)gmail.com)
Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2015 8:05 AM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com (rv10-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: Re: Windscreen Die
Thanks Pascal. This is the pigment I have on order along with the Alumiprep and Alodine. I may try a dry run on some scrap aluminum just to get the hang of it prior to going full scale.
Now I need to spend the next week trying to get this Cee-Baley windshield to fit. It looks like I'm going to have to do some serious sanding to get this thing to fit. When it sits flush on my upper fuselage, I only have about 1/4"-1/2" overlap on the top portion of the cabin top flange....This means I'm going to have to remove about 1/2" from the corners of the plexi so it can slide back. Maybe they have fixed these fit issues since I ordered mine 3 years ago, but they are no where near drop in place.
Shannon
On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 9:48 AM, Pascal <rv10flyer(at)live.com (rv10flyer(at)live.com)> wrote:
[quote]--> RV10-List message posted by: "Pascal" <rv10flyer(at)live.com (rv10flyer(at)live.com)>
I used the AS pigment- http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/cmpages/epoxyPigments.php?clickkey=334111
A little bit went a long way. I found that it did a very nice job making it black and would use/do it again.
One needs to be careful however. once it touches something it is virtually impossible to clean it up completely.
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| Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2015 9:18 am Post subject: Cee Baileys windscreen was Re: Windscreen Die |
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Compound that with there is at least two variations of pink cabin covers. The joggle between the front and back have different dimensions. Who knows what other variances there may be?
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On Jul 8, 2015, at 12:21 PM, Pascal <rv10flyer(at)live.com (rv10flyer(at)live.com)> wrote:
I was part of the windscreen design and another local builder the side windows. When the design was shaped on my (pink) cabin I told Cee baileys that there was a chance Vans would have a newer cabin top as they had changed something from the original Green to Pink. As a result 1/4 added all around the windscreen, and I heard less for the windows. This was done to allow for the builder to final fit the plexi on the plane. If it was truly “drop in” without (minor) adjustments there was the chance of there being a gap or not a perfect fit. By adding the extra around it allows the builder to adjust for their specific fit. As precise as I would like to believe the aluminum is, the fiberglass work from Vans is not always the same from one to the other canopy. I assure you that you are doing far less with that windscreen than you would with the Vans. I originally had the Vans and it was hours of cutting and trimming only to find that I had a bulge on my right bottom. The one Cee Baileys made for me was pretty darn close to be perfect once I made the final fit. If I gave the impression that the windscreen was a drop in place, I apologize . I spent about 2-3 hours on mine.
as for the side windows they should be really close to drop in (again with minor extra room for final shaping)
One other item- the plexi in the Cee Baileys is superior to the Vans. it was clearer and shaped more precisely in my case.
Thank you for the feedback!
Pascal
From: Shannon Hicks (civeng123(at)gmail.com)
Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2015 8:05 AM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com (rv10-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: Re: Windscreen Die
Thanks Pascal. This is the pigment I have on order along with the Alumiprep and Alodine. I may try a dry run on some scrap aluminum just to get the hang of it prior to going full scale.
Now I need to spend the next week trying to get this Cee-Baley windshield to fit. It looks like I'm going to have to do some serious sanding to get this thing to fit. When it sits flush on my upper fuselage, I only have about 1/4"-1/2" overlap on the top portion of the cabin top flange....This means I'm going to have to remove about 1/2" from the corners of the plexi so it can slide back. Maybe they have fixed these fit issues since I ordered mine 3 years ago, but they are no where near drop in place.
Shannon
On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 9:48 AM, Pascal <rv10flyer(at)live.com (rv10flyer(at)live.com)> wrote:
[quote]--> RV10-List message posted by: "Pascal" <rv10flyer(at)live.com (rv10flyer(at)live.com)>
I used the AS pigment- http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/cmpages/epoxyPigments.php?clickkey=334111
A little bit went a long way. I found that it did a very nice job making it black and would use/do it again.
One needs to be careful however. once it touches something it is virtually impossible to clean it up completely.
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