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PostPosted: Fri Aug 14, 2015 6:56 pm    Post subject: LOM 332 engines in North America Reply with quote

I am looking for two M332 engines, available in the USA.

We have, in Australia, an Aero145. If you know this aircraft, you would know that it has two LOM332 engines. Our aircraft went out of service in 1977, and the engines are no longer serviceable. Getting them back into working condition through LOM, in Prague, is expensive.

I understand that, about 1 - 2 years ago, two LOM332’s with about half their life remaining, were offered for sale in the USA. They were advertised in Barnstormer. Does anyone know of these engines, or other M332s which may be available?

The reason for my interest is that there is a group in the USA which has expressed some interest in restoring our aircraft. However, the cost cost of new engines, and the hassles of getting our engines to Prague, getting them re-built, and getting them them to the USA, is daunting. Engines available in the USA would be a big help.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 16, 2015 8:01 am    Post subject: LOM 332 engines in North America Reply with quote

David,
I would think that is a (very) long shot. There are very few LOM engines in the USA, particularly the 4 cylinder models and of course you would need matching engines, not just any 332. Last year there were two projects for sale with the engines available separately. One was a 332 AK, the other the much older 332B.

I suspect you would need the 332B with provision for a prop governor?

The factory are exceedingly helpful and do great work, but as you say, they are pricy. There are other facilities in Poland, the Czech republic, and in Germany that do very good overhauls for less. That might be your best bet. Another possibility is Pavel Novak in Canada. He is an ex-factory technician and does LOM overhauls. Of course no matter who does the overhauls, they still buy the required parts from LOM.

Good luck. Steve-- Stephen BeaverTel: 219-232-8371
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On Aug 14, 2015, at 10:55 PM, David Harris <ddharris(at)ozemail.com.au (ddharris(at)ozemail.com.au)> wrote:
--> Lom-List message posted by: David Harris <ddharris(at)ozemail.com.au (ddharris(at)ozemail.com.au)>I am looking for two M332 engines, available in the USA.We have, in Australia, an Aero145. If you know this aircraft, you would know that it has two LOM332 engines. Our aircraft went out of service in 1977, and the engines are no longer serviceable. Getting them back into working condition through LOM, in Prague, is expensive.I understand that, about 1 - 2 years ago, two LOM332’s with about half their life remaining, were offered for sale in the USA. They were advertised in Barnstormer. Does anyone know of these engines, or other M332s which may be available?The reason for my interest is that there is a group in the USA which has expressed some interest in restoring our aircraft. However, the cost cost of new engines, and the hassles of getting our engines to Prague, getting them re-built, and getting them them to the USA, is daunting. Engines available in the USA would be a big help.David Harris http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lom-List


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 16, 2015 3:32 pm    Post subject: LOM 332 engines in North America Reply with quote

Thanks Steve.

The story is that we had quite strong interest from a group in the USA, but the need for two new engines, plus freight from Australia to the USA was a hefty cost problem. I may try Pavel. I tried him for an engine for myself, but he wasn’t able to provide one with full factory documentation, and that’s what our bureaucrats demand. It is likely to be different in North America - otherwise I can’t see how Pavel would have a business.
We find ourselves between a rock and a hard place. One of the key guys in our restoration project - the one who owns the aircraft - has been diagnosed with Altzheimers. With this pressure and in the lack of a buyer we are facing the prospect of selling the aircraft for scrap.
Incidentally, LOM actually have an OEM customer for new engines - a Russian company making small flying boats.
Thanks again.
David

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[quote]David,
I would think that is a (very) long shot. There are very few LOM engines in the USA, particularly the 4 cylinder models and of course you would need matching engines, not just any 332. Last year there were two projects for sale with the engines available separately. One was a 332 AK, the other the much older 332B.

I suspect you would need the 332B with provision for a prop governor?

The factory are exceedingly helpful and do great work, but as you say, they are pricy. There are other facilities in Poland, the Czech republic, and in Germany that do very good overhauls for less. That might be your best bet. Another possibility is Pavel Novak in Canada. He is an ex-factory technician and does LOM overhauls. Of course no matter who does the overhauls, they still buy the required parts from LOM.

Good luck. Steve-- Stephen BeaverTel: 219-232-8371
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On Aug 14, 2015, at 10:55 PM, David Harris <ddharris(at)ozemail.com.au (ddharris(at)ozemail.com.au)> wrote:
--> Lom-List message posted by: David Harris <ddharris(at)ozemail.com.au (ddharris(at)ozemail.com.au)>I am looking for two M332 engines, available in the USA.We have, in Australia, an Aero145. If you know this aircraft, you would know that it has two LOM332 engines. Our aircraft went out of service in 1977, and the engines are no longer serviceable. Getting them back into working condition through LOM, in Prague, is expensive.I understand that, about 1 - 2 years ago, two LOM332’s with about half their life remaining, were offered for sale in the USA. They were advertised in Barnstormer. Does anyone know of these engines, or other M332s which may be available?The reason for my interest is that there is a group in the USA which has expressed some interest in restoring our aircraft. However, the cost cost of new engines, and the hassles of getting our engines to Prague, getting them re-built, and getting them them to the USA, is daunting. Engines available in the USA would be a big help.David Harris http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lom-Listhttp://www.matronics.com/contribution


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 16, 2015 3:42 pm    Post subject: LOM 332 engines in North America Reply with quote

In the US the aircraft would be certificated in the “Experimental, exhibition” category and as such paperwork for the engines is minimal.
Depending on the engine times, I would think that a strip and re-assemble is all that is required. The fuel injection system would go back to the factory but the engine core should be well within the capabilities go most US power plant mechanics. The factory overhaul manual is excellent. My guess is that the engines will require piston rings, possibly valve springs and all rubber components replacing. I did that sort of IRAN on my engine and it was quite straight forward. The factory were very supportive.

I would be pleased to help anyone that wishes to undertake the work.

LOM are working on a new light-weight version of the 332 for certain European LSA manufacturers. It has electronic ignition and the fuel injection pump has been moved to the former location of the might magneto making the engine a lot shorter than the “standard” model. . It also has a much lighter starter and generator. It will be interesting to see if it make it to production.
Have you advertised the aircraft in Europe? The market in Poland and the Czech Republic seems quite active at the moment.
Steve-- Stephen BeaverTel: 219-232-8371
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On Aug 16, 2015, at 7:32 PM, David Harris <ddharris(at)ozemail.com.au (ddharris(at)ozemail.com.au)> wrote:
Thanks Steve.
The story is that we had quite strong interest from a group in the USA, but the need for two new engines, plus freight from Australia to the USA was a hefty cost problem. I may try Pavel. I tried him for an engine for myself, but he wasn’t able to provide one with full factory documentation, and that’s what our bureaucrats demand. It is likely to be different in North America - otherwise I can’t see how Pavel would have a business.

We find ourselves between a rock and a hard place. One of the key guys in our restoration project - the one who owns the aircraft - has been diagnosed with Altzheimers. With this pressure and in the lack of a buyer we are facing the prospect of selling the aircraft for scrap.

Incidentally, LOM actually have an OEM customer for new engines - a Russian company making small flying boats.

Thanks again.

David
On 17 Aug 2015, at 1:30 am, sjbeaver(at)gmail.com (sjbeaver(at)gmail.com) wrote:
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David,
I would think that is a (very) long shot. There are very few LOM engines in the USA, particularly the 4 cylinder models and of course you would need matching engines, not just any 332. Last year there were two projects for sale with the engines available separately. One was a 332 AK, the other the much older 332B.

I suspect you would need the 332B with provision for a prop governor?

The factory are exceedingly helpful and do great work, but as you say, they are pricy. There are other facilities in Poland, the Czech republic, and in Germany that do very good overhauls for less. That might be your best bet. Another possibility is Pavel Novak in Canada. He is an ex-factory technician and does LOM overhauls. Of course no matter who does the overhauls, they still buy the required parts from LOM.

Good luck.Steve-- Stephen BeaverTel: 219-232-8371
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On Aug 14, 2015, at 10:55 PM, David Harris <ddharris(at)ozemail.com.au (ddharris(at)ozemail.com.au)> wrote:
--> Lom-List message posted by: David Harris <ddharris(at)ozemail.com.au (ddharris(at)ozemail.com.au)>I am looking for two M332 engines, available in the USA.We have, in Australia, an Aero145. If you know this aircraft, you would know that it has two LOM332 engines. Our aircraft went out of service in 1977, and the engines are no longer serviceable. Getting them back into working condition through LOM, in Prague, is expensive.I understand that, about 1 - 2 years ago, two LOM332’s with about half their life remaining, were offered for sale in the USA. They were advertised in Barnstormer. Does anyone know of these engines, or other M332s which may be available?The reason for my interest is that there is a group in the USA which has expressed some interest in restoring our aircraft. However, the cost cost of new engines, and the hassles of getting our engines to Prague, getting them re-built, and getting them them to the USA, is daunting. Engines available in the USA would be a big help.David Harris http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lom-Listhttp://www.matronics.com/contribution


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 16, 2015 3:45 pm    Post subject: LOM 332 engines in North America Reply with quote

“Right” magneto, that is Smile

In the US the aircraft would be certificated in the “Experimental, exhibition” category and as such paperwork for the engines is minimal.
Depending on the engine times, I would think that a strip and re-assemble is all that is required. The fuel injection system would go back to the factory but the engine core should be well within the capabilities go most US power plant mechanics. The factory overhaul manual is excellent. My guess is that the engines will require piston rings, possibly valve springs and all rubber components replacing. I did that sort of IRAN on my engine and it was quite straight forward. The factory were very supportive.

I would be pleased to help anyone that wishes to undertake the work.

LOM are working on a new light-weight version of the 332 for certain European LSA manufacturers. It has electronic ignition and the fuel injection pump has been moved to the former location of the might magneto making the engine a lot shorter than the “standard” model. . It also has a much lighter starter and generator. It will be interesting to see if it make it to production.
Have you advertised the aircraft in Europe? The market in Poland and the Czech Republic seems quite active at the moment.
Steve-- Stephen BeaverTel: 219-232-8371
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On Aug 16, 2015, at 7:32 PM, David Harris <ddharris(at)ozemail.com.au (ddharris(at)ozemail.com.au)> wrote:
Thanks Steve.
The story is that we had quite strong interest from a group in the USA, but the need for two new engines, plus freight from Australia to the USA was a hefty cost problem. I may try Pavel. I tried him for an engine for myself, but he wasn’t able to provide one with full factory documentation, and that’s what our bureaucrats demand. It is likely to be different in North America - otherwise I can’t see how Pavel would have a business.

We find ourselves between a rock and a hard place. One of the key guys in our restoration project - the one who owns the aircraft - has been diagnosed with Altzheimers. With this pressure and in the lack of a buyer we are facing the prospect of selling the aircraft for scrap.

Incidentally, LOM actually have an OEM customer for new engines - a Russian company making small flying boats.

Thanks again.

David
On 17 Aug 2015, at 1:30 am, sjbeaver(at)gmail.com (sjbeaver(at)gmail.com) wrote:
Quote:
David,
I would think that is a (very) long shot. There are very few LOM engines in the USA, particularly the 4 cylinder models and of course you would need matching engines, not just any 332. Last year there were two projects for sale with the engines available separately. One was a 332 AK, the other the much older 332B.

I suspect you would need the 332B with provision for a prop governor?

The factory are exceedingly helpful and do great work, but as you say, they are pricy. There are other facilities in Poland, the Czech republic, and in Germany that do very good overhauls for less. That might be your best bet. Another possibility is Pavel Novak in Canada. He is an ex-factory technician and does LOM overhauls. Of course no matter who does the overhauls, they still buy the required parts from LOM.

Good luck.Steve-- Stephen BeaverTel: 219-232-8371
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On Aug 14, 2015, at 10:55 PM, David Harris <ddharris(at)ozemail.com.au (ddharris(at)ozemail.com.au)> wrote:
--> Lom-List message posted by: David Harris <ddharris(at)ozemail.com.au (ddharris(at)ozemail.com.au)>I am looking for two M332 engines, available in the USA.We have, in Australia, an Aero145. If you know this aircraft, you would know that it has two LOM332 engines. Our aircraft went out of service in 1977, and the engines are no longer serviceable. Getting them back into working condition through LOM, in Prague, is expensive.I understand that, about 1 - 2 years ago, two LOM332’s with about half their life remaining, were offered for sale in the USA. They were advertised in Barnstormer. Does anyone know of these engines, or other M332s which may be available?The reason for my interest is that there is a group in the USA which has expressed some interest in restoring our aircraft. However, the cost cost of new engines, and the hassles of getting our engines to Prague, getting them re-built, and getting them them to the USA, is daunting. Engines available in the USA would be a big help.David Harris http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lom-Listhttp://www.matronics.com/contribution


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 20, 2015 11:08 am    Post subject: LOM 332 engines in North America Reply with quote

I have a factory overhauled LOM M332CE 170 HP and a new LOM V541 propeller  that I have not installed yet and would be open to offers
 
Hope this help you
 
Thanks
 
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> I am looking for two M332 engines, available in the USA.
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> We have, in Australia, an Aero145. If you know this aircraft, you would know that it has two LOM332 engines. Our aircraft went out of service in 1977, and the engines are no longer serviceable. Getting them back into working condition through LOM, in Prague, is expensive.
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> I understand that, about 1 - 2 years ago, two LOM332’s with about half their life remaining, were offered for sale in the USA. They were advertised in Barnstormer. Does anyone know of these engines, or other M332s which may be available?
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> The reason for my interest is that there is a group in the USA which has expressed some interest in restoring our aircraft. However, the cost cost of new engines, and the hassles of getting our engines to Prague, getting them re-built, and getting them them to the USA, is daunting. Engines available in the USA would be a big help.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 20, 2015 4:09 pm    Post subject: LOM 332 engines in North America Reply with quote

Hi Mike, thanks for the contact.

I don’t know the M332CE. Is it the high-compression version of the engine? Also the Aero145 uses the V420 propeller. Not sure of the exact spec (I’m not close to my tech data right now), but the prop also needs to be able to feather (the Ae145 being a twin). This is not a major issue. It’s all in the control mechanism.
Anyway, your engine and prop would not work for the Ae145, but your response is helpful in showing that there are LOM users out there!
What are you planning to put the engine into?
I guess the point I’d like to make to the people in the USA who are (were) interested in our aircraft is that there is a small community of LOM users there who could be helpful.

Incidentally, just yesterday I delivered to the dispatch agent, two LOM332SC engines to go to LOM Praha for rebuild. Both have been standing idle for over 20 years, and getting them approved for installation in a factory-built aircraft in Australia can really only happen with a LOM factory overhaul. I need one to get a Meta Sokol I’m restoring back into the air. The second is a spare which I’ll probably sell in Europe.
Anyway, thanks for the contact.
David


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I have a factory overhauled LOM M332CE 170 HP and a new LOM V541 propeller that I have not installed yet and would be open to offers

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I am looking for two M332 engines, available in the USA.

We have, in Australia, an Aero145. If you know this aircraft, you would know that it has two LOM332 engines. Our aircraft went out of service in 1977, and the engines are no longer serviceable. Getting them back into working condition through LOM, in Prague, is expensive.

I understand that, about 1 - 2 years ago, two LOM332’s with about half their life remaining, were offered for sale in the USA. They were advertised in Barnstormer. Does anyone know of these engines, or other M332s which may be available?

The reason for my interest is that there is a group in the USA which has expressed some interest in restoring our aircraft. However, the cost cost of new engines, and the hassles of getting our engines to Prague, getting them re-built, and getting them them to the USA, is daunting. Engines available in the USA would be a big help.




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