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cgroote1(at)yahoo.com
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Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2015 9:26 am Post subject: NavWorx ADS-B

I have a NavWorx ADS600-B, Garmin 530W, with traffic and weather displaying on an AFS-4500s and 3500s.  I see the traffic and wx. displayed.  However, when I send in and receive back an FAA Operation Compliance Report, I get some red boxes with a note that the ADS-B Out “fails to meet the corresponding performance requirement”.

The local avionics guy (in S.D.) says that all the ADS-B towers aren’t working, or the antenna is not adequate, or, or.

I’ll be down in Mesa, AZ the next two plus weeks and am wondering if there is anyone down in that area that can be recommended to sleuth this out or offer some direction. 

Thanks.

Curt Groote

cgroote1(at)yahoo.com

carl.froehlich(at)verizon
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Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2015 10:08 am Post subject: NavWorx ADS-B

I don't buy the avionics guy explanation.  My understanding is the red boxes tells you your signal was received but in a wrong format.  Recommend first checking the 530W for proper serial out configuration - and that you have the needed software update.



Just worked this problem on a 430W.  The required GPS serial out configuration selection for the transponder in use was "ADS-B +" but this was not an option on the 430W configuration menu.  Looking over the latest 430W install manual I found a note saying that software rev 5.0 or later is required.  Did the update and now all is well.



Carl



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Tim Olson

Joined: 25 Jan 2007
Posts: 2881

Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2015 10:18 am Post subject: NavWorx ADS-B

Make sure you are running the very latest software on the ADS600B.

The 2020 compliance won't show until you get on the latest software.

Tim



On 11/30/2015 11:20 AM, iMac wrote:

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 I have a NavWorx ADS600-B, Garmin 530W, with traffic and weather displaying on an AFS-4500s and 3500s.  I see the traffic and wx. displayed.  However, when I send in and receive back an FAA Operation Compliance Report, I get some red boxes with a note that the ADS-B Out “fails to meet the corresponding performance requirement”.

 The local avionics guy (in S.D.) says that all the ADS-B towers aren’t working, or the antenna is not adequate, or, or.

 I’ll be down in Mesa, AZ the next two plus weeks and am wondering if there is anyone down in that area that can be recommended to sleuth this out or offer some direction.

 Thanks.

 Curt Groote

 cgroote1(at)yahoo.com

flysrv10(at)gmail.com
Guest

Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2015 10:48 am Post subject: NavWorx ADS-B

I have the same issue with mine.  Bill muffin told me that it needed an upgrade that will cost less and less as the time gets near. So I am holding off. 



Do not archive. 



Sent from my iPhone



 	  Quote: 	
		   On Nov 30, 2015, at 1:14 PM, Tim Olson <Tim(at)MyRV10.com> wrote:

 

 

 

 Make sure you are running the very latest software on the ADS600B.

 The 2020 compliance won't show until you get on the latest software.

 Tim

 

> On 11/30/2015 11:20 AM, iMac wrote:

> 

> 

> I have a NavWorx ADS600-B, Garmin 530W, with traffic and weather displaying on an AFS-4500s and 3500s.  I see the traffic and wx. displayed.  However, when I send in and receive back an FAA Operation Compliance Report, I get some red boxes with a note that the ADS-B Out “fails to meet the corresponding performance requirement”.

> The local avionics guy (in S.D.) says that all the ADS-B towers aren’t working, or the antenna is not adequate, or, or.

> I’ll be down in Mesa, AZ the next two plus weeks and am wondering if there is anyone down in that area that can be recommended to sleuth this out or offer some direction.

> Thanks.

> Curt Groote

> cgroote1(at)yahoo.com

Tim Olson

Joined: 25 Jan 2007
Posts: 2881

Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2015 11:10 am Post subject: NavWorx ADS-B

This is a software upgrade, not hardware.  yes, before he said it would 

cost less and less.

Then they ended up doing it in software.  So now you need to use the current

software, and you should likely not need any hardware upgrade anymore.

Call him.



Tim

On 11/30/2015 12:45 PM, Flysrv10 wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   



 I have the same issue with mine.  Bill muffin told me that it needed an upgrade that will cost less and less as the time gets near. So I am holding off.



 Do not archive.



 Sent from my iPhone



> On Nov 30, 2015, at 1:14 PM, Tim Olson <Tim(at)MyRV10.com> wrote:

>

> 

>

> Make sure you are running the very latest software on the ADS600B.

> The 2020 compliance won't show until you get on the latest software.

> Tim

>

>> On 11/30/2015 11:20 AM, iMac wrote:

>> 

>>

>> I have a NavWorx ADS600-B, Garmin 530W, with traffic and weather displaying on an AFS-4500s and 3500s.  I see the traffic and wx. displayed.  However, when I send in and receive back an FAA Operation Compliance Report, I get some red boxes with a note that the ADS-B Out “fails to meet the corresponding performance requirement”.

>> The local avionics guy (in S.D.) says that all the ADS-B towers aren’t working, or the antenna is not adequate, or, or.

>> I’ll be down in Mesa, AZ the next two plus weeks and am wondering if there is anyone down in that area that can be recommended to sleuth this out or offer some direction.

>> Thanks.

>> Curt Groote

>> cgroote1(at)yahoo.com

>

flysrv10(at)gmail.com
Guest

Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2015 12:26 pm Post subject: NavWorx ADS-B

Thanks. I will. 



Sent from my iPhone



 	  Quote: 	
		   On Nov 30, 2015, at 2:05 PM, Tim Olson <Tim(at)MyRV10.com> wrote:

 

 

 

 This is a software upgrade, not hardware.  yes, before he said it would cost less and less.

 Then they ended up doing it in software.  So now you need to use the current

 software, and you should likely not need any hardware upgrade anymore.

 Call him.

 

 Tim

 

 

> On 11/30/2015 12:45 PM, Flysrv10 wrote:

> 

> 

> I have the same issue with mine.  Bill muffin told me that it needed an upgrade that will cost less and less as the time gets near. So I am holding off.

> 

> Do not archive.

> 

> Sent from my iPhone

> 

>> On Nov 30, 2015, at 1:14 PM, Tim Olson <Tim(at)MyRV10.com> wrote:

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> Make sure you are running the very latest software on the ADS600B.

>> The 2020 compliance won't show until you get on the latest software.

>> Tim

>> 

>>> On 11/30/2015 11:20 AM, iMac wrote:

>>> 

>>> 

>>> I have a NavWorx ADS600-B, Garmin 530W, with traffic and weather displaying on an AFS-4500s and 3500s.  I see the traffic and wx. displayed.  However, when I send in and receive back an FAA Operation Compliance Report, I get some red boxes with a note that the ADS-B Out “fails to meet the corresponding performance requirement”.

>>> The local avionics guy (in S.D.) says that all the ADS-B towers aren’t working, or the antenna is not adequate, or, or.

>>> I’ll be down in Mesa, AZ the next two plus weeks and am wondering if there is anyone down in that area that can be recommended to sleuth this out or offer some direction.

>>> Thanks.

>>> Curt Groote

>>> cgroote1(at)yahoo.com

gengrumpy

Joined: 07 May 2013
Posts: 131
Location: Tullahoma, TN

Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2015 12:46 pm Post subject: NavWorx ADS-B

Mine is working fine now, with all green FAA report cards!  Latest software from Bill and all is ok.  Mine has been flawless for 6 weeks now and I love the traffic alerts!

Reminder that with this system, if you squawk 1200, it will NOT send out your registration information, but you still get all the traffic, etc.

Any code besides 1200 will include your registration information.

grumpy

N184JM

 	  Quote: 	
		   On Nov 30, 2015, at 1:05 PM, Tim Olson <Tim(at)MyRV10.com> wrote:

 This is a software upgrade, not hardware.  yes, before he said it would cost less and less.

 Then they ended up doing it in software.  So now you need to use the current

 software, and you should likely not need any hardware upgrade anymore.

 Call him.

 Tim

 On 11/30/2015 12:45 PM, Flysrv10 wrote:

> 

> 

> I have the same issue with mine.  Bill muffin told me that it needed an upgrade that will cost less and less as the time gets near. So I am holding off.

> 

> Do not archive.

> 

> Sent from my iPhone

> 

>> On Nov 30, 2015, at 1:14 PM, Tim Olson <Tim(at)MyRV10.com> wrote:

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> Make sure you are running the very latest software on the ADS600B.

>> The 2020 compliance won't show until you get on the latest software.

>> Tim

>> 

>>> On 11/30/2015 11:20 AM, iMac wrote:

>>> 

>>> 

>>> I have a NavWorx ADS600-B, Garmin 530W, with traffic and weather displaying on an AFS-4500s and 3500s.  I see the traffic and wx. displayed.  However, when I send in and receive back an FAA Operation Compliance Report, I get some red boxes with a note that the ADS-B Out “fails to meet the corresponding performance requirement”.

>>> The local avionics guy (in S.D.) says that all the ADS-B towers aren’t working, or the antenna is not adequate, or, or.

>>> I’ll be down in Mesa, AZ the next two plus weeks and am wondering if there is anyone down in that area that can be recommended to sleuth this out or offer some direction.

>>> Thanks.

>>> Curt Groote

>>> cgroote1(at)yahoo.com

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>>

Kellym

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 1706
Location: Sun Lakes AZ

Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2015 4:00 pm Post subject: NavWorx ADS-B

Tim is right. Almost all the problems are either lacking the latest 

software update or a setup configuration problem. Garmin had a problem 

with the communications protocol between transponder and GPS. When they 

fixed it, they changed the name of the protocol, so a software update is 

needed to use the datastream from the Garmin. Somewhere between 20-40% 

of ADSB installs by avionics shops also get offending reports, so don't 

feel bad.



On 11/30/2015 1:22 PM, Flysrv10 wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   



 Thanks. I will.



 Sent from my iPhone



> On Nov 30, 2015, at 2:05 PM, Tim Olson <Tim(at)MyRV10.com> wrote:

>

> 

>

> This is a software upgrade, not hardware.  yes, before he said it would cost less and less.

> Then they ended up doing it in software.  So now you need to use the current

> software, and you should likely not need any hardware upgrade anymore.

> Call him.

>

> Tim

>> On 11/30/2015 12:45 PM, Flysrv10 wrote:

>> 

>>

>> I have the same issue with mine.  Bill muffin told me that it needed an upgrade that will cost less and less as the time gets near. So I am holding off.

>>

>> Do not archive.

>>

>> Sent from my iPhone

>>

>>> On Nov 30, 2015, at 1:14 PM, Tim Olson <Tim(at)MyRV10.com> wrote:

>>>

>>> 

>>>

>>> Make sure you are running the very latest software on the ADS600B.

>>> The 2020 compliance won't show until you get on the latest software.

>>> Tim

>>>

>>>> On 11/30/2015 11:20 AM, iMac wrote:

>>>> 

>>>>

>>>> I have a NavWorx ADS600-B, Garmin 530W, with traffic and weather displaying on an AFS-4500s and 3500s.  I see the traffic and wx. displayed.  However, when I send in and receive back an FAA Operation Compliance Report, I get some red boxes with a note that the ADS-B Out “fails to meet the corresponding performance requirement”.

>>>> The local avionics guy (in S.D.) says that all the ADS-B towers aren’t working, or the antenna is not adequate, or, or.

>>>> I’ll be down in Mesa, AZ the next two plus weeks and am wondering if there is anyone down in that area that can be recommended to sleuth this out or offer some direction.

>>>> Thanks.

>>>> Curt Groote

>>>> cgroote1(at)yahoo.com

>

>

_________________
Kelly McMullen
A&P/IA, EAA Tech Counselor # 5286
KCHD

Kellym

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 1706
Location: Sun Lakes AZ

Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2015 4:09 pm Post subject: NavWorx ADS-B

Carl made a good point...not only do you need latest software in the 

ADS-B box, but the Garmin needs the latest revision, whether a 400,500, 

600 or 700 series. Otherwise the Garmin won't have the correct data 

blocks either.



On 11/30/2015 4:56 PM, Kelly McMullen wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   



 Tim is right. Almost all the problems are either lacking the latest 

 software update or a setup configuration problem. Garmin had a problem 

 with the communications protocol between transponder and GPS. When 

 they fixed it, they changed the name of the protocol, so a software 

 update is needed to use the datastream from the Garmin. Somewhere 

 between 20-40% of ADSB installs by avionics shops also get offending 

 reports, so don't feel bad.



 On 11/30/2015 1:22 PM, Flysrv10 wrote:

> 

>

> Thanks. I will.

>

> Sent from my iPhone

>

>> On Nov 30, 2015, at 2:05 PM, Tim Olson <Tim(at)MyRV10.com> wrote:

>>

>> 

>>

>> This is a software upgrade, not hardware.  yes, before he said it 

>> would cost less and less.

>> Then they ended up doing it in software.  So now you need to use the 

>> current

>> software, and you should likely not need any hardware upgrade anymore.

>> Call him.

>>

>> Tim

>>

>>

>>> On 11/30/2015 12:45 PM, Flysrv10 wrote:

>>> 

>>>

>>> I have the same issue with mine.  Bill muffin told me that it 

>>> needed an upgrade that will cost less and less as the time gets 

>>> near. So I am holding off.

>>>

>>> Do not archive.

>>>

>>> Sent from my iPhone

>>>

>>>> On Nov 30, 2015, at 1:14 PM, Tim Olson <Tim(at)MyRV10.com> wrote:

>>>>

>>>> 

>>>>

>>>> Make sure you are running the very latest software on the ADS600B.

>>>> The 2020 compliance won't show until you get on the latest software.

>>>> Tim

>>>>

>>>>> On 11/30/2015 11:20 AM, iMac wrote:

>>>>> 

>>>>>

>>>>> I have a NavWorx ADS600-B, Garmin 530W, with traffic and weather 

>>>>> displaying on an AFS-4500s and 3500s.  I see the traffic and wx. 

>>>>> displayed.  However, when I send in and receive back an FAA 

>>>>> Operation Compliance Report, I get some red boxes with a note 

>>>>> that the ADS-B Out “fails to meet the corresponding performance 

>>>>> requirement”.

>>>>> The local avionics guy (in S.D.) says that all the ADS-B towers 

>>>>> aren’t working, or the antenna is not adequate, or, or.

>>>>> I’ll be down in Mesa, AZ the next two plus weeks and am wondering 

>>>>> if there is anyone down in that area that can be recommended to 

>>>>> sleuth this out or offer some direction.

>>>>> Thanks.

>>>>> Curt Groote

>>>>> cgroote1(at)yahoo.com

>>

>>

>>

>>

>

>

_________________
Kelly McMullen
A&P/IA, EAA Tech Counselor # 5286
KCHD

flysrv10(at)gmail.com
Guest

Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2015 5:25 am Post subject: NavWorx ADS-B

Thanks guys. 



I had sent the unit in a while ago for updates but I am not sure how long ago and if it is the last of the needed update. I will follow up with Bill Moffit. 



Do not archive. 



Sent from my iPhone



 	  Quote: 	
		   On Nov 30, 2015, at 7:05 PM, Kelly McMullen <kellym(at)aviating.com> wrote:

 

 

 

 Carl made a good point...not only do you need latest software in the ADS-B box, but the Garmin needs the latest revision, whether a 400,500, 600 or 700 series. Otherwise the Garmin won't have the correct data blocks either.

 

> On 11/30/2015 4:56 PM, Kelly McMullen wrote:

> 

> 

> Tim is right. Almost all the problems are either lacking the latest software update or a setup configuration problem. Garmin had a problem with the communications protocol between transponder and GPS. When they fixed it, they changed the name of the protocol, so a software update is needed to use the datastream from the Garmin. Somewhere between 20-40% of ADSB installs by avionics shops also get offending reports, so don't feel bad.

> 

>> On 11/30/2015 1:22 PM, Flysrv10 wrote:

>> 

>> 

>> Thanks. I will.

>> 

>> Sent from my iPhone

>> 

>>> On Nov 30, 2015, at 2:05 PM, Tim Olson <Tim(at)MyRV10.com> wrote:

>>> 

>>> 

>>> 

>>> This is a software upgrade, not hardware.  yes, before he said it would cost less and less.

>>> Then they ended up doing it in software.  So now you need to use the current

>>> software, and you should likely not need any hardware upgrade anymore.

>>> Call him.

>>> 

>>> Tim

>>> 

>>> 

>>>> On 11/30/2015 12:45 PM, Flysrv10 wrote:

>>>> 

>>>> 

>>>> I have the same issue with mine.  Bill muffin told me that it needed an upgrade that will cost less and less as the time gets near. So I am holding off.

>>>> 

>>>> Do not archive.

>>>> 

>>>> Sent from my iPhone

>>>> 

>>>>> On Nov 30, 2015, at 1:14 PM, Tim Olson <Tim(at)MyRV10.com> wrote:

>>>>> 

>>>>> 

>>>>> 

>>>>> Make sure you are running the very latest software on the ADS600B.

>>>>> The 2020 compliance won't show until you get on the latest software.

>>>>> Tim

>>>>> 

>>>>>> On 11/30/2015 11:20 AM, iMac wrote:

>>>>>> 

>>>>>> 

>>>>>> I have a NavWorx ADS600-B, Garmin 530W, with traffic and weather displaying on an AFS-4500s and 3500s.  I see the traffic and wx. displayed.  However, when I send in and receive back an FAA Operation Compliance Report, I get some red boxes with a note that the ADS-B Out “fails to meet the corresponding performance requirement”.

>>>>>> The local avionics guy (in S.D.) says that all the ADS-B towers aren’t working, or the antenna is not adequate, or, or.

>>>>>> I’ll be down in Mesa, AZ the next two plus weeks and am wondering if there is anyone down in that area that can be recommended to sleuth this out or offer some direction.

>>>>>> Thanks.

>>>>>> Curt Groote

>>>>>> cgroote1(at)yahoo.com

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