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PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2017 4:28 am    Post subject: Hartzell 2 blade or 3 blade Reply with quote

The difference through Van's is $10k. I would like to buy the 3 blade but I'm having a hard time with the $10k difference. Any feedback between these 2 for the IO-540 on the 10 would be appreciated.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2017 4:35 am    Post subject: Hartzell 2 blade or 3 blade Reply with quote

From what I've read here, the 3-blade is not as efficient as the two
blade. And there is the $10K.
However, on the plus side it's damn sexy looking sitting on the ramp. I
went with the two blade ...... hope to fly this fall.
Linn

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The difference through Van's is $10k. I would like to buy the 3 blade but I'm having a hard time with the $10k difference. Any feedback between these 2 for the IO-540 on the 10 would be appreciated.

Thanks


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2017 5:04 am    Post subject: Hartzell 2 blade or 3 blade Reply with quote

I have the MT 3 blade and have been flying for 8 1/2 years. I just paid big bucks for a prop overhaul. Ivan Kristensen flew me back to Mississippi to reinstall the prop and then we returned home in loose formation. Same power settings and fuel flow he had about 8 knots on me. Save the $10K would be my advice. It does look sexy sitting on the ramp and it might climb a bit better, but pretty sure not $10K worth!
PM me if you're interested in talking more about my experience.

David Maib
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The difference through Van's is $10k. I would like to buy the 3 blade but I'm having a hard time with the $10k difference. Any feedback between these 2 for the IO-540 on the 10 would be appreciated.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2017 5:52 am    Post subject: Hartzell 2 blade or 3 blade Reply with quote

I agree. They both look just about the same at 200mph. Use the $10k for fuel so your plane doesn't sit. I've seen way too many planes that sit most of the year. I don't think the hangar cares whether your prop is sexy or not. Do yourself a favor and go 2-blade and make the cowl easier to take off too.

Just my $.02!

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I have the MT 3 blade and have been flying for 8 1/2 years. I just paid big bucks for a prop overhaul. Ivan Kristensen flew me back to Mississippi to reinstall the prop and then we returned home in loose formation. Same power settings and fuel flow he had about 8 knots on me. Save the $10K would be my advice. It does look sexy sitting on the ramp and it might climb a bit better, but pretty sure not $10K worth!
PM me if you're interested in talking more about my experience.

David Maib


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2017 6:01 am    Post subject: Hartzell 2 blade or 3 blade Reply with quote

I have the MT 3-blade prop and love how smooth the ride is, but would save the money and go 2-blade if I had to do it all over again.  Plus, the lower cowl is a PIA to remove with the 3-blade prop.

Shannon 
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I agree. They both look just about the same at 200mph. Use the $10k for fuel so your plane doesn't sit. I've seen way too many planes that sit most of the year. I don't think the hangar cares whether your prop is sexy or not. Do yourself a favor and go 2-blade and make the cowl easier to take off too.

Just my $.02!

Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
[url=tel:352-427-0285]352-427-0285[/url]
jesse(at)saintaviation.com (jesse(at)saintaviation.com)

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> PM me if you're interested in talking more about my experience.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2017 6:02 am    Post subject: Hartzell 2 blade or 3 blade Reply with quote

Three blade good for climb. Two blade good for cruise. RV10 climbs just fine with two blade. Spend the $10k on gadgets.

Do not archive.

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I have the MT 3 blade and have been flying for 8 1/2 years. I just paid big bucks for a prop overhaul. Ivan Kristensen flew me back to Mississippi to reinstall the prop and then we returned home in loose formation. Same power settings and fuel flow he had about 8 knots on me. Save the $10K would be my advice. It does look sexy sitting on the ramp and it might climb a bit better, but pretty sure not $10K worth!
PM me if you're interested in talking more about my experience.

David Maib


> On Jan 24, 2017, at 7:28 AM, whodja <whodja(at)gmail.com> wrote:
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2017 6:12 am    Post subject: Hartzell 2 blade or 3 blade Reply with quote

Are you saying Ivan had 8kts indicated or 8 kts true over your speed? Am I reading you correctly that Ivan has the 2 blade Hartzell, in comparison to your MT? I don't know anyone with the Hartzell carbon fiber 3 blade. Would be very interested in comparison between the Hartzell  3 blade and the MT. The MT is about $6-7K cheaper than the CF Hartzell, and I very much like the smoothness, as well as the lighter wt over the 2 blade aluminum. I have time in behind both the 2 blade Hartzell and more behind the MT. Nothing wrong with the 2 blade, but my CFO wanted 3 blade, so I went along.  The price delta for the MT vs 2 blade aluminum isn't nearly as great as the delta for the composite Hartzell. Allegedly the composite props are less likely to cause internal engine damage if there is a prop strike, but I've not seen any evidence one way or the other.

No question the 3 bladed props make it significantly more difficult to remove the lower cowl.

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I have the MT 3 blade and have been flying for 8 1/2 years. I just paid big bucks for a prop overhaul. Ivan Kristensen flew me back to Mississippi to reinstall the prop and then we returned home in loose formation. Same power settings and fuel flow he had about 8 knots on me. Save the $10K would be my advice. It does look sexy sitting on the ramp and it might climb a bit better, but pretty sure not $10K worth!
PM me if you're interested in talking more about my experience.

David Maib


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2017 1:48 pm    Post subject: Re: Hartzell 2 blade or 3 blade Reply with quote

Kelly McMullen wrote:
Are you saying Ivan had 8kts indicated or 8 kts true over your speed? Am I reading you correctly that Ivan has the 2 blade Hartzell, in comparison to your MT? I don't know anyone with the Hartzell carbon fiber 3 blade. Would be very interested in comparison between the Hartzell  3 blade and the MT. The MT is about $6-7K cheaper than the CF Hartzell, and I very much like the smoothness, as well as the lighter wt over the 2 blade aluminum. I have time in behind both the 2 blade Hartzell and more behind the MT. Nothing wrong with the 2 blade, but my CFO wanted 3 blade, so I went along.  The price delta for the MT vs 2 blade aluminum isn't nearly as great as the delta for the composite Hartzell. Allegedly the composite props are less likely to cause internal engine damage if there is a prop strike, but I've not seen any evidence one way or the other.

No question the 3 bladed props make it significantly more difficult to remove the lower cowl.

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Sorry for the delayed response. Ivan had 6 to 8 knots TAS on me as I recall. He does have the 2 blade Hartzell and I have the 3 blade MT.


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