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philperry9



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2017 6:05 am    Post subject: Logbook Entries Reply with quote

Does anyone know of a site that has sample language for logbook entries?   For example, I need to add my MT-Prop gov SB entry.  I need to show that I checked AD's for my engine.  I need to show that I've started the conditional inspection...

I don't have much info on how those entries should be formatted and I'm hoping there is a site or FAA doc in existence that outlines the format for those entries.
I'm a logbook rookie.
Phil


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Tim Olson



Joined: 25 Jan 2007
Posts: 2871

PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2017 7:02 am    Post subject: Logbook Entries Reply with quote

I think for many of them you can just use your best common sense
and try to provide enough detail that someone in the future
could look and understand what was done and why.

The language for the annual condition inspection is in your
operating limitations and is pretty standard, so that one
is easy, but I don't think there is any need to show
that you've STARTED the inspection, just do an entry when you
are done with it. The start date of an inspection isn't
the relevant date...it's the completed date that matters.

That log entry usually looks like: "I certify that this
aircraft has been inspected on X/X/2017 in accordance with the
scope and detail of FAR part 43, Appendix D, and was found to
be in the condition for safe operation."

I personally when doing the ACI, don't log every individual
task, such as "repacked wheel bearings", but only list any
that are significant for some reason. I also log all of
the cylinder compressions for historical reasons.

Here's an example of what I did for a recent fuel pump
log entry. Someone like Kelly may be able to confirm
if it's adequate.
"Replaced fuel pump model 62B26931 s/n RC4214036826 with
s/n RC12161697 per Lycoming SB-621B."

Generally, if you are supposed to follow a procedure, you
may want to reference it as "per XYZ" or something that
shows where you got the guidance. Other than that it's
pretty much up to you. I try to include part and serial
numbers for anything I can, and if there was a reason why
something needed to be done due to wear or damage, I note
that.

Here's another entry for a while ago:
"Replaced Slick Harness M-2961 (Left) with new Aero-Lite Skytronics
A18-11AS-II harness (Kelly KA16014) due to loose spring on #5 wire at
cap end and blackening of rotor cap on old mag. Replaced AN900-10
gasket on Oil temp housing plug."

And another one:
"Performed SB 14-8-29 per SB instructions, installing doubler above nose
gear elastomers on engine mount."

An A&P like Kelly McMullen would probably have good info on
a reference to use for examples, and maybe he can comment
on if what I've done above is even adequate. I personally
don't feel they're too inadequate, but wouldn't mind a
second opinion.

The important thing is to show what parts went in and out,
any relevant info on those parts, and what procedures were
done and why, as far as I'm concerned. Then you're doing
a good job trying to provide a traceable history of the
aircraft and engine.

Tim


On 4/26/2017 9:04 AM, Phillip Perry wrote:
Quote:
Does anyone know of a site that has sample language for logbook entries?
For example, I need to add my MT-Prop gov SB entry. I need to show
that I checked AD's for my engine. I need to show that I've started the
conditional inspection...

I don't have much info on how those entries should be formatted and I'm
hoping there is a site or FAA doc in existence that outlines the format
for those entries.

I'm a logbook rookie.

Phil



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Kellym



Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 1700
Location: Sun Lakes AZ

PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2017 12:17 pm    Post subject: Logbook Entries Reply with quote

What is needed is listed in Part 43.9:
1. description of work performed. 2 Date of completion of work
3. Name of person performing the work (if other than the person
approving the work)
4. Signature and certificate number of person approving the work.
#3 isn't needed for OBAM. #4. no certificate number is needed for OBAM
aircraft, although you could put your repairman number.
You can put total time, if you choose to track it for maintenance purposes.
Additional guidance in AC43.9C Maintenance Records
Note that inspection records are a little different in contents and
approval.
Tim's suggestions are right on track. Including part numbers is
excellent. Serial numbers are not so important unless it is major item
that you want to track replacement..engine, prop, perhaps major
accessories like governor, mags, alternator, starter. It helps if say an
AD were to be issued on certain Skytec starters, so you don't have to go
find the physical serial number later.

On 4/26/2017 8:02 AM, Tim Olson wrote:
Quote:


I think for many of them you can just use your best common sense
and try to provide enough detail that someone in the future
could look and understand what was done and why.

The language for the annual condition inspection is in your
operating limitations and is pretty standard, so that one
is easy, but I don't think there is any need to show
that you've STARTED the inspection, just do an entry when you
are done with it. The start date of an inspection isn't
the relevant date...it's the completed date that matters.

That log entry usually looks like: "I certify that this
aircraft has been inspected on X/X/2017 in accordance with the
scope and detail of FAR part 43, Appendix D, and was found to
be in the condition for safe operation."

I personally when doing the ACI, don't log every individual
task, such as "repacked wheel bearings", but only list any
that are significant for some reason. I also log all of
the cylinder compressions for historical reasons.

Here's an example of what I did for a recent fuel pump
log entry. Someone like Kelly may be able to confirm
if it's adequate.
"Replaced fuel pump model 62B26931 s/n RC4214036826 with
s/n RC12161697 per Lycoming SB-621B."

Generally, if you are supposed to follow a procedure, you
may want to reference it as "per XYZ" or something that
shows where you got the guidance. Other than that it's
pretty much up to you. I try to include part and serial
numbers for anything I can, and if there was a reason why
something needed to be done due to wear or damage, I note
that.

Here's another entry for a while ago:
"Replaced Slick Harness M-2961 (Left) with new Aero-Lite Skytronics
A18-11AS-II harness (Kelly KA16014) due to loose spring on #5 wire at
cap end and blackening of rotor cap on old mag. Replaced AN900-10
gasket on Oil temp housing plug."

And another one:
"Performed SB 14-8-29 per SB instructions, installing doubler above nose
gear elastomers on engine mount."

An A&P like Kelly McMullen would probably have good info on
a reference to use for examples, and maybe he can comment
on if what I've done above is even adequate. I personally
don't feel they're too inadequate, but wouldn't mind a
second opinion.

The important thing is to show what parts went in and out,
any relevant info on those parts, and what procedures were
done and why, as far as I'm concerned. Then you're doing
a good job trying to provide a traceable history of the
aircraft and engine.

Tim




On 4/26/2017 9:04 AM, Phillip Perry wrote:
> Does anyone know of a site that has sample language for logbook entries?
> For example, I need to add my MT-Prop gov SB entry. I need to show
> that I checked AD's for my engine. I need to show that I've started the
> conditional inspection...
>
> I don't have much info on how those entries should be formatted and I'm
> hoping there is a site or FAA doc in existence that outlines the format
> for those entries.
>
> I'm a logbook rookie.
>
> Phil
>






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