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Is ELT and navegation lights required in the USA

 
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PostPosted: Mon May 08, 2017 8:23 am    Post subject: Is ELT and navegation lights required in the USA Reply with quote

And if so what are the options for placement of the lights?  Can they be places on the fuselage?
These are not required in Colombia but I am thinking ahead for possible move to the USA
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Will
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PostPosted: Mon May 08, 2017 1:43 pm    Post subject: Is ELT and navegation lights required in the USA Reply with quote

this may help:
https://www.faa.gov/documentLibrary/media/Advisory_Circular/AC_20-30B.pdf

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On May 8, 2017, at 9:23 AM, William Daniell <wdaniell.longport(at)gmail.com (wdaniell.longport(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
And if so what are the options for placement of the lights? Can they be places on the fuselage?

These are not required in Colombia but I am thinking ahead for possible move to the USA

thanks
Will

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PostPosted: Tue May 09, 2017 6:31 am    Post subject: Re: Is ELT and navegation lights required in the USA Reply with quote

Will,

In the US an experimental aircraft will be issued a Special Airworthiness Certificate. That allows operation under FAR 91.319 which specifies day VFR only unless authorized for other flight by the FAA.

With that certificate will come Operating Limitations. They will state that after the aircraft completes Phase I Testing, the aircraft can be operated at night and/or instrument conditions if equipped in accordance with FAR 91.205.

FAR 91.205 refers to FAR 91.207 that states that an ELT is required.

FAR 91.205 also requires an anti-collision light system (such as strobes) for all aircraft and if operated VFR at night, position lights in addition to the anti collision lights.

Lights must conform to FAR 23. The AC that Fred referenced gives a lot of technical details including location requirements. Anti-collision can be mounted on the fuselage, such as on top of the rudder. But position lights are usually on the wing tip. Here is a guide from Whelen: http://www.whelen.com/pb/Aviation/System%20Requirements/Anit-Collision%20Systems.pdf

So yes, you need an ELT and anti collision lights and if you expect to fly at night, position lights.

We hope this helps.

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PostPosted: Tue May 09, 2017 7:09 am    Post subject: Is ELT and navegation lights required in the USA Reply with quote

jim
excellent  much appreciated. 
I am getting a bit ahead of myself.  HJ460 is ready to fly but I am waiting on a combination of the authorities and my flying club for an airworthiness certificate.  I then have to go through testing and ironing out the bugs.    The idea is to fly to the USA at the end of the year and then re register as a US aircraft at some time after that.  Bud already said that it is possible to do this.
it sounds like I should put some lights in in any case and  I dare say that an ELT would be a good investment for the flight up through central America or across the caribbean in any case Smile
Many thanks 
Will
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On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 9:31 AM, h&amp;jeuropa <butcher43(at)att.net (butcher43(at)att.net)> wrote:
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Will,

In the US an experimental aircraft will be issued a Special Airworthiness Certificate.  That allows operation under FAR 91.319 which specifies day VFR only unless authorized for other flight by the FAA.

With that certificate will come Operating Limitations.  They will state that after the aircraft completes Phase I Testing,  the aircraft can be operated at night and/or instrument conditions if equipped in accordance with FAR 91.205.

FAR 91.205 refers to FAR 91.207 that states that an ELT is required.

FAR 91.205 also requires an anti-collision light system (such as strobes) for all aircraft and if operated VFR at night, position lights in addition to the anti collision lights.

Lights must conform to FAR 23.   The AC that Fred referenced gives a lot of technical details including location requirements.  Anti-collision can be mounted on the fuselage, such as on top of the rudder.  But position lights are usually on the wing tip.  Here is a guide from Whelen:  http://www.whelen.com/pb/Aviation/System%20Requirements/Anit-Collision%20Systems.pdf

So yes, you need an ELT and anti collision lights and if you expect to fly at night, position lights.

We hope this helps.

Jim & Heather




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