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BobD
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 Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2017 6:11 am Post subject: Toe Brakes with Parking Brake |
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Has anyone experience of installing a Parking Brake with the standard Tri-Gear Toe Brakes ? I have read the various 33T documents from the Builders Manual, but only the Finger Brake version mentions the Parking Brake, and I have no wish to convert to the Finger Brakes.
I am wondering if something like the MATCO PVPV-D can be used in line between the standard Toe Brake Cylinders and the Wheel Brakes , or if further modifications of the hydraulics system are required ?
I have added a diagram from the MATCO website which shows the PVPV_D installed with their vertical brake cylinders, but the comment about their vented reservoir cap being the highest point in the system concerns me, considering that the standard cylinders used on the Europa are horizontal.
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pjeffers(at)talktalk.net
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| Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2017 12:21 am Post subject: Toe Brakes with Parking Brake |
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Hi Bob,
I have got a mod approved by the LAA which uses the old foot brake cylinders
(Kart) together with the PVPV-D park brake cylinder. The system works just
fine but I do have it operating as finger brakes. What you are proposing is
the same hydraulically as we have, only leaving the Kart cylinders on the
floor instead of the pedestal.
If you would like to contact me personally for more information then please
call me on 07720985011 or direct to my personal email address
pjeffers(at)talktalk.net
Regards
Pete Jeffers
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pjeffers(at)talktalk.net
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| Posted: Mon Aug 21, 2017 2:53 am Post subject: Toe Brakes with Parking Brake |
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Hi Bob,
I intend to attend the LAA rally on Saturday. Weather permitting it will
be in my a/c so you can have a look-see at my park brake system. I am
deliberately not sending the mod details since very little of it really
refers to what you intend to do with your machine. I only make the
comparison, that you seem to be using all the same components as me and I
have not found any problems. Your actual physical installation will
inevitably be quite different.
You should be able to find me on the Europa Club stand around midday on
Saturday as I am supposed to be manning it around that time.
Regards
Pete
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AirEupora
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Location: Dixon, CA
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| Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2017 6:42 am Post subject: Re: Toe Brakes with Parking Brake |
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I highly recommend the finger brakes. I had trouble installing the toe brakes and gave up when Europa came up with the kit. One of the problems was the size on my feet and the narrow area of the rudder pedals. The other problem was trying to bleed the Europa brakes. I went with the Marco cylinders and use the brake and pucks supplied by Europa.
Good luck!
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