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Albert Gardner



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2017 8:40 am    Post subject: ipad gps Reply with quote

I installed a Garmin 496 and a AirGizmo mount in my panel to provide a GPS
signal to my TruTrak autopilot and it worked very well until recently when
it seems to have failed. New battery didn't help. Since I had recently
started using an ipad on a RAM mount I'm think I would not replace the
Garmin but use the ipad instead. Question is though-how do I get a GPS
steering signal out of the ipad to the TruTrak?
Albert Gardner
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2017 9:00 am    Post subject: ipad gps Reply with quote

Looking on ebay for info about the price of Garmin gps units I ran across a
listing for a repair service (out of Russia of all places).

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Repair-Service-for-Garmin-GPSmap-296-396-496-495-Co
lor-Chartplotter-GPS-Fix/263072741620?hash=item3d405b78f4:g:mrUAAOSwgv5ZXJgb

Anybody ever had one repaired or used a Russian repair service before?
Albert?



--> I installed a Garmin 496 and a AirGizmo mount in my panel to provide a
GPS signal --> to my TruTrak autopilot and it worked very well until
recently when it seems to --> have failed. New battery didn't help. Since I
had recently started using an ipad --> on a RAM mount I'm think I would not
replace the Garmin but use the ipad instead. --> Question is though-how do I
get a GPS steering signal out of the ipad to the --> TruTrak?
--> Albert Gardner
--> RV-10 N991RV
--> Yuma, Arizona


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2017 9:36 am    Post subject: ipad gps Reply with quote

If you are just looking to get GPS to your TruTrak, I would look at just a simple GPS puck If you don’t have another suitable GPS in the plane already.. You can buy something like the Garman GPS 18 for very cheap. The TruTrak is pretty easy to integrate with a GPS, even a simple sirf GPS.
Tim

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On Nov 1, 2017, at 11:58 AM, Albert <ibspud(at)roadrunner.com> wrote:



Looking on ebay for info about the price of Garmin gps units I ran across a
listing for a repair service (out of Russia of all places).

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Repair-Service-for-Garmin-GPSmap-296-396-496-495-Co
lor-Chartplotter-GPS-Fix/263072741620?hash=item3d405b78f4:g:mrUAAOSwgv5ZXJgb

Anybody ever had one repaired or used a Russian repair service before?
Albert?



--> I installed a Garmin 496 and a AirGizmo mount in my panel to provide a
GPS signal --> to my TruTrak autopilot and it worked very well until
recently when it seems to --> have failed. New battery didn't help. Since I
had recently started using an ipad --> on a RAM mount I'm think I would not
replace the Garmin but use the ipad instead. --> Question is though-how do I
get a GPS steering signal out of the ipad to the --> TruTrak?
--> Albert Gardner
--> RV-10 N991RV
--> Yuma, Arizona









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PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2017 11:14 am    Post subject: ipad gps Reply with quote

I have been using one of these with no issues:

GlobalSat BR-355 Serial GPS Receiver
On Wed, Nov 1, 2017 at 1:34 PM, Tim Olson <Tim(at)myrv10.com (Tim(at)myrv10.com)> wrote:
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--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim(at)MyRV10.com>

If you are just looking to get GPS to your TruTrak, I would look at just a simple GPS puck If you don’t have another suitable GPS in the plane already.. You can buy something like the Garman GPS 18 for very cheap.  The TruTrak is pretty easy to integrate with a GPS, even a simple sirf GPS.
Tim

> On Nov 1, 2017, at 11:58 AM, Albert <ibspud(at)roadrunner.com (ibspud(at)roadrunner.com)> wrote:
>
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Albert" <ibspud(at)roadrunner.com (ibspud(at)roadrunner.com)>
>
> Looking on ebay for info about the price of Garmin gps units I ran across a
> listing for a repair service (out of Russia of all places).
>
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/Repair-Service-for-Garmin-GPSmap-296-396-496-495-Co
> lor-Chartplotter-GPS-Fix/263072741620?hash=item3d405b78f4:g:mrUAAOSwgv5ZXJgb
>
> Anybody ever had one repaired or used a Russian repair service before?
> Albert?
>
>
>
> --> I installed a Garmin 496 and a AirGizmo mount in my panel to provide a
> GPS signal --> to my TruTrak autopilot and it worked very well until
> recently when it seems to  --> have failed. New battery didn't help. Since I
> had recently started using an ipad --> on a RAM mount I'm think I would not
> replace the Garmin but use the ipad instead. --> Question is though-how do I
> get a GPS steering signal out of the ipad to the     --> TruTrak?
> --> Albert Gardner
> --> RV-10 N991RV
> --> Yuma, Arizona
>
>
>
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2017 11:45 am    Post subject: ipad gps Reply with quote

I have 2 of the BR-355's as well.
I only mentioned the GPS18 because it's one that may be
more familiar to some people, and can do 9600 baud.

That said, my advice for you is this if you go the BR-355 route:

Contact GlobalSat...they will sell you a 9600 baud version of
the BR-355. I bought 2 of them from them last year. I have one
of them in my RV-14, in fact, set up with a switch to be the backup
GPS for my TruTrak. They're a good little GPS that you can
buy for under $50. I don't think you NEED 9600 baud for the
TruTrak, but I'd go that route if at all possible.

Tim

On 11/1/2017 2:12 PM, Jim Combs wrote:
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I have been using one of these with no issues:


GlobalSat BR-355 Serial GPS Receiver




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PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2017 12:32 pm    Post subject: ipad gps Reply with quote

I may be dense - but what does tru-track do with a raw GPS signal?  I can see a 496 putting out desired track, waypoint and course info - but ???
Phil

On Wed, Nov 1, 2017 at 3:51 PM Tim Olson <Tim(at)myrv10.com (Tim(at)myrv10.com)> wrote:

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--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim(at)MyRV10.com>

I have 2 of the BR-355's as well.
I only mentioned the GPS18 because it's one that may be
more familiar to some people, and can do 9600 baud.

That said, my advice for you is this if you go the BR-355 route:

Contact GlobalSat...they will sell you a 9600 baud version of
the BR-355.  I bought 2 of them from them last year.  I have one
of them in my RV-14, in fact, set up with a switch to be the backup
GPS for my TruTrak.  They're a good little GPS that you can
buy for under $50.  I don't think you NEED 9600 baud for the
TruTrak, but I'd go that route if at all possible.

Tim

On 11/1/2017 2:12 PM, Jim Combs wrote:
> I have been using one of these with no issues:
>
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>   GlobalSat BR-355 Serial GPS Receiver
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2017 12:46 pm    Post subject: ipad gps Reply with quote

Just a simple position indicator when you are in manual track mode.

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I may be dense - but what does tru-track do with a raw GPS signal? I can see a 496 putting out desired track, waypoint and course info - but ???

Phil




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--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim(at)MyRV10.com (Tim(at)MyRV10.com)>

I have 2 of the BR-355's as well.
I only mentioned the GPS18 because it's one that may be
more familiar to some people, and can do 9600 baud.

That said, my advice for you is this if you go the BR-355 route:

Contact GlobalSat...they will sell you a 9600 baud version of
the BR-355. I bought 2 of them from them last year. I have one
of them in my RV-14, in fact, set up with a switch to be the backup
GPS for my TruTrak. They're a good little GPS that you can
buy for under $50. I don't think you NEED 9600 baud for the
TruTrak, but I'd go that route if at all possible.

Tim

On 11/1/2017 2:12 PM, Jim Combs wrote:
> I have been using one of these with no issues:
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2017 12:51 pm    Post subject: ipad gps Reply with quote

It keeps track of ground track and position.
The ARINC lines do the steering.
Tim

On Nov 1, 2017, at 3:30 PM, Phil Yoder <phil(at)philyoder.com (phil(at)philyoder.com)> wrote:
Quote:
I may be dense - but what does tru-track do with a raw GPS signal? I can see a 496 putting out desired track, waypoint and course info - but ???
Phil

On Wed, Nov 1, 2017 at 3:51 PM Tim Olson <Tim(at)myrv10.com (Tim(at)myrv10.com)> wrote:

Quote:
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim(at)MyRV10.com (Tim(at)MyRV10.com)>

I have 2 of the BR-355's as well.
I only mentioned the GPS18 because it's one that may be
more familiar to some people, and can do 9600 baud.

That said, my advice for you is this if you go the BR-355 route:

Contact GlobalSat...they will sell you a 9600 baud version of
the BR-355. I bought 2 of them from them last year. I have one
of them in my RV-14, in fact, set up with a switch to be the backup
GPS for my TruTrak. They're a good little GPS that you can
buy for under $50. I don't think you NEED 9600 baud for the
TruTrak, but I'd go that route if at all possible.

Tim

On 11/1/2017 2:12 PM, Jim Combs wrote:
> I have been using one of these with no issues:
>
>
> GlobalSat BR-355 Serial GPS Receiver
>
>
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2017 1:59 pm    Post subject: ipad gps Reply with quote

When in stand alone mode, it provides the GPS Ground track for the heading information, plus it provides altitude information for standalone altitude hold. 
On Wed, Nov 1, 2017 at 4:50 PM, Tim Olson <Tim(at)myrv10.com (Tim(at)myrv10.com)> wrote:
Quote:

It keeps track of ground track and position.
The ARINC lines do the steering.
Tim

On Nov 1, 2017, at 3:30 PM, Phil Yoder <phil(at)philyoder.com (phil(at)philyoder.com)> wrote:
Quote:
I may be dense - but what does tru-track do with a raw GPS signal?  I can see a 496 putting out desired track, waypoint and course info - but ???
Phil

On Wed, Nov 1, 2017 at 3:51 PM Tim Olson <Tim(at)myrv10.com (Tim(at)myrv10.com)> wrote:

Quote:
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim(at)MyRV10.com (Tim(at)MyRV10.com)>

I have 2 of the BR-355's as well.
I only mentioned the GPS18 because it's one that may be
more familiar to some people, and can do 9600 baud.

That said, my advice for you is this if you go the BR-355 route:

Contact GlobalSat...they will sell you a 9600 baud version of
the BR-355.  I bought 2 of them from them last year.  I have one
of them in my RV-14, in fact, set up with a switch to be the backup
GPS for my TruTrak.  They're a good little GPS that you can
buy for under $50.  I don't think you NEED 9600 baud for the
TruTrak, but I'd go that route if at all possible.

Tim

On 11/1/2017 2:12 PM, Jim Combs wrote:
> I have been using one of these with no issues:
>
>
>   GlobalSat BR-355 Serial GPS Receiver
>
>
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2017 2:46 pm    Post subject: ipad gps Reply with quote

This from TruTraks Installation Information: The Garmin 496 was wired to Pin 7.

Pin 7 is Primary Serial Input. Baud rate selectable 1200, 2400, 4800 or 9600 baud. Automatically decodes NMEA-0183, Garmin Aviation Format, or Apollo/UPSAT MovingMap or GPSS format. Provides directional reference to the autopilot.

How does the Global Sat BR-355 get power and how does the GPS signal come out of it? The picture looks like it has a USB connector. Does it have a serial connector also? I'm very interested because it looks like that might be all that I need.
Albert Gardner

From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2017 1:50 PM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: ipad gps

It keeps track of ground track and position.

The ARINC lines do the steering.

Tim
On Nov 1, 2017, at 3:30 PM, Phil Yoder <phil(at)philyoder.com (phil(at)philyoder.com)> wrote:
Quote:

I may be dense - but what does tru-track do with a raw GPS signal? I can see a 496 putting out desired track, waypoint and course info - but ???

Phil




On Wed, Nov 1, 2017 at 3:51 PM Tim Olson <Tim(at)myrv10.com (Tim(at)myrv10.com)> wrote:
Quote:

--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim(at)MyRV10.com (Tim(at)MyRV10.com)>

I have 2 of the BR-355's as well.
I only mentioned the GPS18 because it's one that may be
more familiar to some people, and can do 9600 baud.

That said, my advice for you is this if you go the BR-355 route:

Contact GlobalSat...they will sell you a 9600 baud version of
the BR-355. I bought 2 of them from them last year. I have one
of them in my RV-14, in fact, set up with a switch to be the backup
GPS for my TruTrak. They're a good little GPS that you can
buy for under $50. I don't think you NEED 9600 baud for the
TruTrak, but I'd go that route if at all possible.

Tim

On 11/1/2017 2:12 PM, Jim Combs wrote:
Quote:
I have been using one of these with no issues:
GlobalSat BR-355 Serial GPS Receiver
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2017 3:35 pm    Post subject: ipad gps Reply with quote

I found this on the internet doing a search for BR-355 pin-out.

You can get the connector at digikey or mouser electronics.
This DIN connector is the same as that used on the OLD PS-2 Mouse / Keyboard (Pre - USB)
Jim C
On Wed, Nov 1, 2017 at 6:44 PM, Albert <ibspud(at)roadrunner.com (ibspud(at)roadrunner.com)> wrote:
Quote:

This from TruTraks Installation Information: The Garmin 496 was wired to Pin 7.
 
Pin 7 is Primary Serial Input. Baud rate selectable 1200, 2400, 4800 or 9600 baud. Automatically decodes NMEA-0183, Garmin Aviation Format, or Apollo/UPSAT MovingMap or GPSS format. Provides directional reference to the autopilot.
 
How does the Global Sat BR-355 get power and how does the GPS signal come out of it? The picture looks like it has a USB connector. Does it have a serial connector also? I'm very interested because it looks like that might be all that I need.
Albert Gardner
 
From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2017 1:50 PM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com (rv10-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: Re: ipad gps
 
It keeps track of ground track and position.

The ARINC lines do the steering.

Tim
On Nov 1, 2017, at 3:30 PM, Phil Yoder <phil(at)philyoder.com (phil(at)philyoder.com)> wrote:
Quote:

I may be dense - but what does tru-track do with a raw GPS signal?  I can see a 496 putting out desired track, waypoint and course info - but ???

Phil

 

 
On Wed, Nov 1, 2017 at 3:51 PM Tim Olson <Tim(at)myrv10.com (Tim(at)myrv10.com)> wrote:
Quote:

--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim(at)MyRV10.com (Tim(at)MyRV10.com)>

I have 2 of the BR-355's as well.
I only mentioned the GPS18 because it's one that may be
more familiar to some people, and can do 9600 baud.

That said, my advice for you is this if you go the BR-355 route:

Contact GlobalSat...they will sell you a 9600 baud version of
the BR-355.  I bought 2 of them from them last year.  I have one
of them in my RV-14, in fact, set up with a switch to be the backup
GPS for my TruTrak.  They're a good little GPS that you can
buy for under $50.  I don't think you NEED 9600 baud for the
TruTrak, but I'd go that route if at all possible.

Tim

On 11/1/2017 2:12 PM, Jim Combs wrote:
Quote:
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   GlobalSat BR-355 Serial GPS Receiver
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2017 3:41 pm    Post subject: ipad gps Reply with quote

The baud rate is just setting the transfer rate from the GPS to the Truetrac.  Regardless of the baud rate used, you will still only get GPS updates once per second.  The sentence is short so no reason to get crazy with high baud rates.

Jim C
On Wed, Nov 1, 2017 at 6:44 PM, Albert <ibspud(at)roadrunner.com (ibspud(at)roadrunner.com)> wrote:
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This from TruTraks Installation Information: The Garmin 496 was wired to Pin 7.
 
Pin 7 is Primary Serial Input. Baud rate selectable 1200, 2400, 4800 or 9600 baud. Automatically decodes NMEA-0183, Garmin Aviation Format, or Apollo/UPSAT MovingMap or GPSS format. Provides directional reference to the autopilot.
 
How does the Global Sat BR-355 get power and how does the GPS signal come out of it? The picture looks like it has a USB connector. Does it have a serial connector also? I'm very interested because it looks like that might be all that I need.
Albert Gardner
 
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It keeps track of ground track and position.

The ARINC lines do the steering.

Tim
On Nov 1, 2017, at 3:30 PM, Phil Yoder <phil(at)philyoder.com (phil(at)philyoder.com)> wrote:
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I may be dense - but what does tru-track do with a raw GPS signal?  I can see a 496 putting out desired track, waypoint and course info - but ???

Phil

 

 
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I have 2 of the BR-355's as well.
I only mentioned the GPS18 because it's one that may be
more familiar to some people, and can do 9600 baud.

That said, my advice for you is this if you go the BR-355 route:

Contact GlobalSat...they will sell you a 9600 baud version of
the BR-355.  I bought 2 of them from them last year.  I have one
of them in my RV-14, in fact, set up with a switch to be the backup
GPS for my TruTrak.  They're a good little GPS that you can
buy for under $50.  I don't think you NEED 9600 baud for the
TruTrak, but I'd go that route if at all possible.

Tim

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 7:11 am    Post subject: ipad gps Reply with quote

Power may be the hardest part about the BR-355. I can't remember for
sure but I think it runs on 5V. So I had to throw together a simple
5V regulator that I mounted nearby and ran 12V into that.

That's one thing about the Garmin GPS 18...I'm not sure if it reduces
the 12V in the lighter plug, or if it's 12V all the way to the puck,
but it may eliminate one step of getting something that works.

https://buy.garmin.com/en-US/US/p/27594

For the BR-355, I cut the connector right off, wired it to a DB9,
and hooked up my own power module to power it.
Tim

On 11/01/2017 05:44 PM, Albert wrote:
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This from TruTraks Installation Information: The Garmin 496 was wired to
Pin 7.

Pin 7 is Primary Serial Input. Baud rate selectable 1200, 2400, 4800 or
9600 baud. Automatically decodes NMEA-0183, Garmin Aviation Format, or
Apollo/UPSAT MovingMap or GPSS format. Provides directional reference to
the autopilot.

How does the Global Sat BR-355 get power and how does the GPS signal
come out of it? The picture looks like it has a USB connector. Does it
have a serial connector also? I'm very interested because it looks like
that might be all that I need.

Albert Gardner


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 7:29 am    Post subject: ipad gps Reply with quote

I have a Garmin puck feeding my ELT running off of a 5V DC-DC converter: Recom Power R-78W5.0-0.5
Mouser has it for under $8.40.
The puck comes with a cigarette lighter adapter, but the 5V converter is much smaller.

Lenny
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On Nov 2, 2017, at 11:09 AM, Tim Olson <Tim(at)MyRV10.com> wrote:



Power may be the hardest part about the BR-355. I can't remember for
sure but I think it runs on 5V. So I had to throw together a simple
5V regulator that I mounted nearby and ran 12V into that.

That's one thing about the Garmin GPS 18...I'm not sure if it reduces
the 12V in the lighter plug, or if it's 12V all the way to the puck,
but it may eliminate one step of getting something that works.

https://buy.garmin.com/en-US/US/p/27594

For the BR-355, I cut the connector right off, wired it to a DB9,
and hooked up my own power module to power it.
Tim





On 11/01/2017 05:44 PM, Albert wrote:
> This from TruTraks Installation Information: The Garmin 496 was wired to Pin 7.
> Pin 7 is Primary Serial Input. Baud rate selectable 1200, 2400, 4800 or 9600 baud. Automatically decodes NMEA-0183, Garmin Aviation Format, or Apollo/UPSAT MovingMap or GPSS format. Provides directional reference to the autopilot.
> How does the Global Sat BR-355 get power and how does the GPS signal come out of it? The picture looks like it has a USB connector. Does it have a serial connector also? I'm very interested because it looks like that might be all that I need.
> Albert Gardner





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PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 7:42 am    Post subject: ipad gps Reply with quote

Exactly. If you get a puck, plan to just chop the cable up anyway. In the end you can make it smaller and lighter and not have to deal with anyone’s special plug.
Tim

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On Nov 2, 2017, at 10:28 AM, Lenny Iszak <lenard(at)rapiddecision.com> wrote:



I have a Garmin puck feeding my ELT running off of a 5V DC-DC converter: Recom Power R-78W5.0-0.5
Mouser has it for under $8.40.
The puck comes with a cigarette lighter adapter, but the 5V converter is much smaller.

Lenny


> On Nov 2, 2017, at 11:09 AM, Tim Olson <Tim(at)MyRV10.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> Power may be the hardest part about the BR-355. I can't remember for
> sure but I think it runs on 5V. So I had to throw together a simple
> 5V regulator that I mounted nearby and ran 12V into that.
>
> That's one thing about the Garmin GPS 18...I'm not sure if it reduces
> the 12V in the lighter plug, or if it's 12V all the way to the puck,
> but it may eliminate one step of getting something that works.
>
> https://buy.garmin.com/en-US/US/p/27594
>
> For the BR-355, I cut the connector right off, wired it to a DB9,
> and hooked up my own power module to power it.
> Tim
>
>
>
>
>
>> On 11/01/2017 05:44 PM, Albert wrote:
>> This from TruTraks Installation Information: The Garmin 496 was wired to Pin 7.
>> Pin 7 is Primary Serial Input. Baud rate selectable 1200, 2400, 4800 or 9600 baud. Automatically decodes NMEA-0183, Garmin Aviation Format, or Apollo/UPSAT MovingMap or GPSS format. Provides directional reference to the autopilot.
>> How does the Global Sat BR-355 get power and how does the GPS signal come out of it? The picture looks like it has a USB connector. Does it have a serial connector also? I'm very interested because it looks like that might be all that I need.
>> Albert Gardner
>
>
>







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PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 8:47 am    Post subject: ipad gps Reply with quote

OK, I found a 5V power supply on ebay for $8+ but looking at the listings for the BR-355 shows also a BR-355S4 which is much cheaper. What is the difference between the units? Listing for the BR-355 are over $200. (I did find a listing for a BR-355 from China for $15 + $13 shipping!!!).
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 10:09 am    Post subject: ipad gps Reply with quote

I don't know with 100% certainty but I think the biggest difference is
likely that the S4 model uses the SiRF IV chipset whereas the regular
BR355 may use an older or different chipset.
They are both cheap: BR-355-S4 for $27.00
https://www.amazon.com/GlobalSat-BR-355S4-GPS-Receiver-Black/dp/B00AMAJFUO

BR-355 for $33.95
https://www.amazon.com/GlobalSat-BR-355-Serial-GPS-Receiver/dp/B000VUFGF8
I don't see the ability on their website to directly compare the
BR-355 with no suffix, but when I compare the -W with the -S4,
the difference is SiRF III vs SiRF IV, and SiRF III does 20
channels wheras the SiRF IV does 48, and boots up a little quicker.

I can tell you that when I had them sell me the ones that
defaulted to 9600 baud, I got the BR-355-S4 version. I paid
around $50 for that. If I didn't have the baud rate fixed, it
would lose it's baud setting on power-off. I bought mine
for APRS tracking and wanted to be able to use 9600 baud for
that. I also feed my TruTrak as a secondary GPS.

Hot tip: There's a magnet in the case that you can pull the
sticker off and then use a screwdriver to pry the magnet out
of it. I didn't want a magnet anywhere near my plane.
Once the magnet is out, the puck weighs almost nothing and you
can secure it with velcro somewhere. I have one in a wingtip
and one under the VS fairing and both work perfectly.

Something like that DC-DC converter you found will work well.
I think I have that on one of them, and on the other I used
an LM7805 5V regulator similar to this, along with a couple
other components:
https://www.sparkfun.com/products/107

cheap to do either way.

Lenny's DC-DC converter I think is this one:
https://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/RECOM/R-78W50-05/?qs=T0XSgvH75d6ym%2FmhBy%252boCA%3D%3D&gclid=CjwKCAjwhOvPBRBxEiwAx2nhLm6kZTNFsk-7LUrrI2uK_jNuTKkH5mIPGaB6Xfr_sIi4wxc-4RUORRoClb4QAvD_BwE

It's also cheap and simple. You don't need a lot of wattage
to drive this GPS. His can use source voltages of 6.5 to 32V,
so may be a real nice option. Your GPS would be one of the
last things in the panel to die if you lose power, and would
be one of the better power-spike survivors at 32V.

Tim


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OK, I found a 5V power supply on ebay for $8+ but looking at the listings for the BR-355 shows also a BR-355S4 which is much cheaper. What is the difference between the units? Listing for the BR-355 are over $200. (I did find a listing for a BR-355 from China for $15 + $13 shipping!!!).
Albert Gardner
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 1:52 pm    Post subject: ipad gps Reply with quote

Yes the BR-355 5 V.  On the Advanced Flight system, I used the sensor +5 output to drive the BR-355.  There are also three terminal TO-220 case regulators that are ideal for powering this. They will take up to 35V input and are current and temperature regulated.

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Power may be the hardest part about the BR-355.  I can't remember for
sure but I think it runs on 5V.  So I had to throw together a simple
5V regulator that I mounted nearby and ran 12V into that.

That's one thing about the Garmin GPS 18...I'm not sure if it reduces
the 12V in the lighter plug, or if it's 12V all the way to the puck,
but it may eliminate one step of getting something that works.

https://buy.garmin.com/en-US/US/p/27594

For the BR-355, I cut the connector right off, wired it to a DB9,
and hooked up my own power module to power it.
Tim





On 11/01/2017 05:44 PM, Albert wrote:
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This from TruTraks Installation Information: The Garmin 496 was wired to Pin 7.

Pin 7 is Primary Serial Input. Baud rate selectable 1200, 2400, 4800 or 9600 baud. Automatically decodes NMEA-0183, Garmin Aviation Format, or Apollo/UPSAT MovingMap or GPSS format. Provides directional reference to the autopilot.

How does the Global Sat BR-355 get power and how does the GPS signal come out of it? The picture looks like it has a USB connector. Does it have a serial connector also? I'm very interested because it looks like that might be all that I need.

Albert Gardner
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