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PostPosted: Mon Dec 04, 2017 10:24 pm    Post subject: Slick magneto maintenance Reply with quote

Hi everyone.

When I got my Lycoming IO-540, the Slick magnetos it came with (66LR37SCNN and 66LP-0SCNN) were already bolted on, timing set, etc., so I've been treating them as something of a black box that I haven't wanted to fiddle with as they work well. But that's hardly the right attitude to have for an experimental aircraft Smile In particular, from what I understand, the magneto breaker points should be checked periodically (perhaps more should be inspected too), as well as engine timing, etc. And precious little (ie: no) documentation came with them.

Is there a document or information somewhere that describes exactly how to do this? Hopefully some (or most) can be done without actually removing the magnetos themselves. Though eventually, I know they're going to have to be pulled, and when that happens I'd rather have in my pocket the right way to put them back.

Thanks!

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 05, 2017 1:44 am    Post subject: Slick magneto maintenance Reply with quote

https://www.amazon.com/Magneto-Ignition-System-John-Schwaner/dp/B0006P6ZLW


This book can be hard to find, but it appears that Amazon has hard copies. There is also an electronic version on google play.



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Hi everyone.

When I got my Lycoming IO-540, the Slick magnetos it came with (66LR37SCNN and 66LP-0SCNN) were already bolted on, timing set, etc., so I've been treating them as something of a black box that I haven't wanted to fiddle with as they work well. But that's hardly the right attitude to have for an experimental aircraft Smile In particular, from what I understand, the magneto breaker points should be checked periodically (perhaps more should be inspected too), as well as engine timing, etc. And precious little (ie: no) documentation came with them.

Is there a document or information somewhere that describes exactly how to do this? Hopefully some (or most) can be done without actually removing the magnetos themselves. Though eventually, I know they're going to have to be pulled, and when that happens I'd rather have in my pocket the right way to put them back.

Thanks!

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 05, 2017 5:43 am    Post subject: Slick magneto maintenance Reply with quote

For what it is worth, common practice for Slicks has been to have a
competent magneto shop do an inspect and repair as necessary at 500
hours, and to buy new mags at 1000 hours. Main reason is cost of by the
book overhaul can exceed price of new. Typically the 500 hour will
replace points and maybe a few other items, and the mags will be
reliable for the 2nd 500 hours. There are some service bulletins that
call for 500 hour inspection, which you don't have to do, but it is
generally a good idea, and is required on some certified engines used in
commercial operations.

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Hi everyone.

When I got my Lycoming IO-540, the Slick magnetos it came with (66LR37SCNN and 66LP-0SCNN) were already bolted on, timing set, etc., so I've been treating them as something of a black box that I haven't wanted to fiddle with as they work well. But that's hardly the right attitude to have for an experimental aircraft Smile In particular, from what I understand, the magneto breaker points should be checked periodically (perhaps more should be inspected too), as well as engine timing, etc. And precious little (ie: no) documentation came with them.

Is there a document or information somewhere that describes exactly how to do this? Hopefully some (or most) can be done without actually removing the magnetos themselves. Though eventually, I know they're going to have to be pulled, and when that happens I'd rather have in my pocket the right way to put them back.

Thanks!

Dan
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 05, 2017 5:49 am    Post subject: Slick magneto maintenance Reply with quote

I don't know if you just meant physical copies rather than hard
cover....I don't think I have ever seen it in anything but paperback.
I have a copy. It is informative and useful, but not exactly a
maintenance or overhaul manual.
Kelly
Unfortunately when Sacramento Skyranch closed its business, John
Schwaner's publishing of the magneto book, engine book and Mechanics
Toolbox CD seemed to also disappear. I have and use all three.

On 12/5/2017 2:43 AM, Bob Leffler wrote:
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https://www.amazon.com/Magneto-Ignition-System-John-Schwaner/dp/B0006P6ZLW

This book can be hard to find, but it appears that Amazon has hard
copies. There is also an electronic version on google play.

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Hi everyone.

When I got my Lycoming IO-540, the Slick magnetos it came with
(66LR37SCNN and 66LP-0SCNN) were already bolted on, timing set, etc., so
I've been treating them as something of a black box that I haven't
wanted to fiddle with as they work well. But that's hardly the right
attitude to have for an experimental aircraft Smile In particular, from
what I understand, the magneto breaker points should be checked
periodically (perhaps more should be inspected too), as well as engine
timing, etc. And precious little (ie: no) documentation came with them.

Is there a document or information somewhere that describes exactly how
to do this? Hopefully some (or most) can be done without actually
removing the magnetos themselves. Though eventually, I know they're
going to have to be pulled, and when that happens I'd rather have in my
pocket the right way to put them back.

Thanks!

Dan
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 05, 2017 6:34 am    Post subject: Slick magneto maintenance Reply with quote

See
L-1363F 4300/6300 Series Magneto Maintenance and Overhaul Manual
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On Dec 5, 2017, at 5:47 AM, Kelly McMullen <kellym(at)aviating.com (kellym(at)aviating.com)> wrote:
--> RV10-List message posted by: Kelly McMullen <kellym(at)aviating.com (kellym(at)aviating.com)>I don't know if you just meant physical copies rather than hard cover....I don't think I have ever seen it in anything but paperback.I have a copy. It is informative and useful, but not exactly a maintenance or overhaul manual.KellyUnfortunately when Sacramento Skyranch closed its business, John Schwaner's publishing of the magneto book, engine book and Mechanics Toolbox CD seemed to also disappear. I have and use all three.On 12/5/2017 2:43 AM, Bob Leffler wrote:
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owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com) <owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com)> on behalf of Dan Charrois <dan(at)syz.com (dan(at)syz.com)>*Sent:* Tuesday, December 5, 2017 1:23:20 AM*To:* RV10-List Digest Server*Subject:* Slick magneto maintenance--> RV10-List message posted by: Dan Charrois <dan(at)syz.com (dan(at)syz.com)>Hi everyone.When I got my Lycoming IO-540, the Slick magnetos it came with (66LR37SCNN and 66LP-0SCNN) were already bolted on, timing set, etc., so I've been treating them as something of a black box that I haven't wanted to fiddle with as they work well. But that's hardly the right attitude to have for an experimental aircraft Smile In particular, from what I understand, the magneto breaker points should be checked periodically (perhaps more should be inspected too), as well as engine timing, etc. And precious little (ie: no) documentation came with them.Is there a document or information somewhere that describes exactly how to do this? Hopefully some (or most) can be done without actually removing the magnetos themselves. Though eventually, I know they're going to have to be pulled, and when that happens I'd rather have in my pocket the right way to put them back.Thanks!Dan---Dan CharroisPresident, Syzygy Research & TechnologyPhone: 780-961-2213===========Email Forum --List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List===========p; - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS -ums.matronics.com===========p; - NEW MATRONICS LIST WIKI -matronics.com===========p; - List Contribution Web Site -p; -Matt Dralle, List Admin.http://www.matronics.com/contribution===========
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 05, 2017 6:45 am    Post subject: Slick magneto maintenance Reply with quote

Tim did an excellent writeup on mag timing based on the Sac Skyranch instructions, adding his comments explaining it further.

Here’s a link:
http://www.myrv10.com/tips/maintenance/Mag_Timing/tims_slick_timing_info.html
Lenny


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--> RV10-List message posted by: Dan Charrois <dan(at)syz.com (dan(at)syz.com)>

Hi everyone.

When I got my Lycoming IO-540, the Slick magnetos it came with (66LR37SCNN and 66LP-0SCNN) were already bolted on, timing set, etc., so I've been treating them as something of a black box that I haven't wanted to fiddle with as they work well. But that's hardly the right attitude to have for an experimental aircraft Smile In particular, from what I understand, the magneto breaker points should be checked periodically (perhaps more should be inspected too), as well as engine timing, etc. And precious little (ie: no) documentation came with them.

Is there a document or information somewhere that describes exactly how to do this? Hopefully some (or most) can be done without actually removing the magnetos themselves. Though eventually, I know they're going to have to be pulled, and when that happens I'd rather have in my pocket the right way to put them back.

Thanks!

Dan
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 05, 2017 7:26 am    Post subject: Slick magneto maintenance Reply with quote

Anyone have this in .pdf I can get? I just checked and I have L-1363C,
so I'd just like to update.
Tim


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L-1363F 4300/6300 Series Magneto Maintenance and Overhaul Manual

Do not archive




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PostPosted: Tue Dec 05, 2017 9:23 am    Post subject: Slick magneto maintenance Reply with quote

Found it here:

http://veteranflyg.se/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/Slick-4300_6300-Overhaul-Manual-L-1363F.pdf

Lenny

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Anyone have this in .pdf I can get? I just checked and I have L-1363C, so I'd just like to update.
Tim




On 12/05/2017 08:33 AM, Rob Kermanj wrote:
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> L-1363F 4300/6300 Series Magneto Maintenance and Overhaul Manual
> Do not archive





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PostPosted: Tue Dec 05, 2017 11:01 am    Post subject: Slick magneto maintenance Reply with quote

Super, thanks a million!
I tried a whole pile of google hits and they all either wanted me to
sign up for something or they were fishy.
I skimmed this. I found it funny that the whole revision
from D to E was just to change the company name from Unison to
Champion. So if you have D, you're pretty close to F.
Tim
On 12/05/2017 11:21 AM, Lenny Iszak wrote:
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Found it here:

http://veteranflyg.se/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/Slick-4300_6300-Overhaul-Manual-L-1363F.pdf

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 05, 2017 1:38 pm    Post subject: Slick magneto maintenance Reply with quote

Perfect - exactly what I was looking for! Thanks a lot - mags are definitely something I want to approach with the proper documentation!

Dan

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On 2017-Dec-05, at 7:33 AM, Rob Kermanj <flysrv10(at)gmail.com> wrote:

See
L-1363F 4300/6300 Series Magneto Maintenance and Overhaul Manual

Do not archive


> On Dec 5, 2017, at 5:47 AM, Kelly McMullen <kellym(at)aviating.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> I don't know if you just meant physical copies rather than hard cover....I don't think I have ever seen it in anything but paperback.
> I have a copy. It is informative and useful, but not exactly a maintenance or overhaul manual.
> Kelly
> Unfortunately when Sacramento Skyranch closed its business, John Schwaner's publishing of the magneto book, engine book and Mechanics Toolbox CD seemed to also disappear. I have and use all three.
>
> On 12/5/2017 2:43 AM, Bob Leffler wrote:
>> https://www.amazon.com/Magneto-Ignition-System-John-Schwaner/dp/B0006P6ZLW
>> This book can be hard to find, but it appears that Amazon has hard copies. There is also an electronic version on google play.
>> Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> *From:* owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com <owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com> on behalf of Dan Charrois <dan(at)syz.com>
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 5, 2017 1:23:20 AM
>> *To:* RV10-List Digest Server
>> *Subject:* Slick magneto maintenance
>>
>> Hi everyone.
>> When I got my Lycoming IO-540, the Slick magnetos it came with (66LR37SCNN and 66LP-0SCNN) were already bolted on, timing set, etc., so I've been treating them as something of a black box that I haven't wanted to fiddle with as they work well. But that's hardly the right attitude to have for an experimental aircraft Smile In particular, from what I understand, the magneto breaker points should be checked periodically (perhaps more should be inspected too), as well as engine timing, etc. And precious little (ie: no) documentation came with them.
>> Is there a document or information somewhere that describes exactly how to do this? Hopefully some (or most) can be done without actually removing the magnetos themselves. Though eventually, I know they're going to have to be pulled, and when that happens I'd rather have in my pocket the right way to put them back.
>> Thanks!
>> Dan
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 05, 2017 1:58 pm    Post subject: Slick magneto maintenance Reply with quote

The good thing about magnetos is that they talk to you. You will know long before a failure that the mag is sick. At least that has been my experience for the past 30 years of flying.

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On Dec 5, 2017, at 1:35 PM, Dan Charrois <dan(at)syz.com> wrote:



Perfect - exactly what I was looking for! Thanks a lot - mags are definitely something I want to approach with the proper documentation!

Dan

> On 2017-Dec-05, at 7:33 AM, Rob Kermanj <flysrv10(at)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> See
> L-1363F 4300/6300 Series Magneto Maintenance and Overhaul Manual
>
> Do not archive
>
>
>> On Dec 5, 2017, at 5:47 AM, Kelly McMullen <kellym(at)aviating.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> I don't know if you just meant physical copies rather than hard cover....I don't think I have ever seen it in anything but paperback.
>> I have a copy. It is informative and useful, but not exactly a maintenance or overhaul manual.
>> Kelly
>> Unfortunately when Sacramento Skyranch closed its business, John Schwaner's publishing of the magneto book, engine book and Mechanics Toolbox CD seemed to also disappear. I have and use all three.
>>
>>> On 12/5/2017 2:43 AM, Bob Leffler wrote:
>>> https://www.amazon.com/Magneto-Ignition-System-John-Schwaner/dp/B0006P6ZLW
>>> This book can be hard to find, but it appears that Amazon has hard copies. There is also an electronic version on google play.
>>> Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef>
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> *From:* owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com <owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com> on behalf of Dan Charrois <dan(at)syz.com>
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 5, 2017 1:23:20 AM
>>> *To:* RV10-List Digest Server
>>> *Subject:* Slick magneto maintenance
>>>
>>> Hi everyone.
>>> When I got my Lycoming IO-540, the Slick magnetos it came with (66LR37SCNN and 66LP-0SCNN) were already bolted on, timing set, etc., so I've been treating them as something of a black box that I haven't wanted to fiddle with as they work well. But that's hardly the right attitude to have for an experimental aircraft Smile In particular, from what I understand, the magneto breaker points should be checked periodically (perhaps more should be inspected too), as well as engine timing, etc. And precious little (ie: no) documentation came with them.
>>> Is there a document or information somewhere that describes exactly how to do this? Hopefully some (or most) can be done without actually removing the magnetos themselves. Though eventually, I know they're going to have to be pulled, and when that happens I'd rather have in my pocket the right way to put them back.
>>> Thanks!
>>> Dan
>>> ---
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>>> President, Syzygy Research & Technology
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