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				 Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2018 12:40 pm    Post subject: capacitor durability | 
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				So yesterday I received my shiny new 33000 micro farad capacitor, for use with my Silent Hektik regulator. Within five minutes, I had managed to drop it from a height of three feet onto my hardwood floor. The floor is fine, but I wonder about the capacitor. How likely is it that it was damaged? How would such damage show up?
 
 Ken
 
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		wrmaxwell(at)bigpond.com Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2018 2:49 pm    Post subject: capacitor durability | 
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				Extremely unlikely           to be damaged Ken, provided of course tthat the terminals           weren't broken off. 
               
 Bill
           
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       	  | Quote: | 	 		         So yesterday I received my shiny new 33000 micro         farad capacitor, for use with my Silent Hektik regulator. Within         five minutes, I had managed to drop it from a height of three         feet onto my hardwood floor. The floor is fine, but I wonder         about the capacitor. How likely is it that it was damaged? How         would such damage show up?         
          
          Ken
        
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		kenryan
 
 
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				 Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 8:23 am    Post subject: capacitor durability | 
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				The terminals are fine. How would one know that a capacitor was not working properly in a (for example) Rotax installation? I know some guys don't even use the capacitor.
 
 On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 1:18 PM, Bill Maxwell <wrmaxwell(at)bigpond.com (wrmaxwell(at)bigpond.com)> wrote:
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 Extremely unlikely           to be damaged Ken, provided of course tthat the terminals           weren't broken off. 
               
 Bill
           
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       	  | Quote: | 	 		         So yesterday I received my shiny new 33000 micro         farad capacitor, for use with my Silent Hektik regulator. Within         five minutes, I had managed to drop it from a height of three         feet onto my hardwood floor. The floor is fine, but I wonder         about the capacitor. How likely is it that it was damaged? How         would such damage show up?         
          
          Ken
        
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				 Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 10:05 am    Post subject: capacitor durability | 
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				At 02:38 PM 1/11/2018, you wrote:
   	  | Quote: | 	 		  | So yesterday I received my shiny new 33000 micro farad capacitor, for use with my Silent Hektik regulator. Within five minutes, I had managed to drop it from a height of three feet onto my hardwood floor. The floor is fine, but I wonder about the capacitor. How likely is it that it was damaged? How would such damage show up? | 	  
    If the case is not dented, the cap is probably
    just fine. Even if it IS dented, risk to functionality
    is low. Failure would show up as excessive leakage
    precipitating a venting event. Generally nothing spectacular.
 
  
    Bob . . .
 
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				 Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 10:13 am    Post subject: capacitor durability | 
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				Thanks. I will pretend nothing happened.
 On Jan 12, 2018 09:09, "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <nuckolls.bob(at)aeroelectric.com (nuckolls.bob(at)aeroelectric.com)> wrote: 	  | Quote: | 	 		    At 02:38 PM 1/11/2018, you wrote:
   	  | Quote: | 	 		  | So yesterday I received my shiny new 33000 micro farad capacitor, for use with my Silent Hektik regulator. Within five minutes, I had managed to drop it from a height of three feet onto my hardwood floor. The floor is fine, but I wonder about the capacitor. How likely is it that it was damaged? How would such damage show up? | 	  
    If the case is not dented, the cap is probably
    just fine. Even if it IS dented, risk to functionality
    is low. Failure would show up as excessive leakage
    precipitating a venting event. Generally nothing spectacular.
 
  
    Bob . . .  
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				 Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 1:41 pm    Post subject: capacitor durability | 
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				It can be tested           both for its capacitance and for ESR, for both which you would           need the appropriate instrument. Hardly worth investing in           these if your only use is on this application. If you know a           friendly amateur radio operator, he or she should be able to           do that for you, or know of somebody who has the test           instruments.     
 A simple test would           be to put it across a battery and let it charge up, then           remove it and measure the voltage stored in the capacitor.           Should be close to the battery's voltage. Mind you don't touch           both terminals though, as it is capable of dumping its charge           quickly into your body, a trick I recall being often employed           in high school physics classes.
               
 A capacitor is a           relatively simple device. In this application, it sits across           the DC supply from the alternator and regulator, where it           smooths out any remaining AC spikes that might otherwise show           up as noise in your radio or otherwise interfere with the           proper operation of your avionics.  
           
      On 13/01/2018 3:22 AM, Ken Ryan wrote:
      
       	  | Quote: | 	 		                The terminals are fine. How would one know that a         capacitor was not working properly in a (for example) Rotax         installation? I know some guys don't even use the capacitor.
        
          On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 1:18 PM, Bill           Maxwell <wrmaxwell(at)bigpond.com (wrmaxwell(at)bigpond.com)>           wrote:
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 Extremely unlikely to be damaged Ken, provided of                 course tthat the terminals weren't broken off. 
                                                   
 Bill
                                  
                  On                   12/01/2018 7:38 AM, Ken Ryan wrote:
                  
                   	  | Quote: | 	 		                     So yesterday I received my shiny new                     33000 micro farad capacitor, for use with my Silent                     Hektik regulator. Within five minutes, I had managed                     to drop it from a height of three feet onto my                     hardwood floor. The floor is fine, but I wonder                     about the capacitor. How likely is it that it was                     damaged? How would such damage show up?                     
                      
                      Ken
                    
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				 Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 2:30 pm    Post subject: capacitor durability | 
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				Thx Bill!
 
 Sent from my Android. Sorry Steve.
 On Jan 12, 2018 12:45, "Bill Maxwell" <wrmaxwell(at)bigpond.com (wrmaxwell(at)bigpond.com)> wrote: 	  | Quote: | 	 		                     
 It can be tested           both for its capacitance and for ESR, for both which you would           need the appropriate instrument. Hardly worth investing in           these if your only use is on this application. If you know a           friendly amateur radio operator, he or she should be able to           do that for you, or know of somebody who has the test           instruments.     
 A simple test would           be to put it across a battery and let it charge up, then           remove it and measure the voltage stored in the capacitor.           Should be close to the battery's voltage. Mind you don't touch           both terminals though, as it is capable of dumping its charge           quickly into your body, a trick I recall being often employed           in high school physics classes.
               
 A capacitor is a           relatively simple device. In this application, it sits across           the DC supply from the alternator and regulator, where it           smooths out any remaining AC spikes that might otherwise show           up as noise in your radio or otherwise interfere with the           proper operation of your avionics.  
           
      On 13/01/2018 3:22 AM, Ken Ryan wrote:
      
       	  | Quote: | 	 		                The terminals are fine. How would one know that a         capacitor was not working properly in a (for example) Rotax         installation? I know some guys don't even use the capacitor.
        
          On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 1:18 PM, Bill           Maxwell <wrmaxwell(at)bigpond.com (wrmaxwell(at)bigpond.com)>           wrote:
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 Extremely unlikely to be damaged Ken, provided of                 course tthat the terminals weren't broken off. 
                                                   
 Bill
                                  
                  On                   12/01/2018 7:38 AM, Ken Ryan wrote:
                  
                   	  | Quote: | 	 		                     So yesterday I received my shiny new                     33000 micro farad capacitor, for use with my Silent                     Hektik regulator. Within five minutes, I had managed                     to drop it from a height of three feet onto my                     hardwood floor. The floor is fine, but I wonder                     about the capacitor. How likely is it that it was                     damaged? How would such damage show up?                     
                      
                      Ken
                    
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