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				|  Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2018 2:47 am    Post subject: International Fly-In, Gap-Tallard, France, June 9-10, 2018 |   |  
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				| Europa25Gap International Fly-In, Gap-Tallard, France, June 9-10, 2018
 I got several comments and questions regarding this event which deserve some clarification:
 1. Sorry the dates did not show on the title because it was too long and were cut by the Matronics system.
 2. Camping on the airfield is not allowed. However there is an area located very close (100 m.) to the aircraft parking were camping will be tolerated. There is no showers nor toilets close to that area. Toilets are available at the airfield terminal building and at the Aero-Club during opening hours only.
 3. Hotel Le Cap is the recommended choice for two reasons: it is located right on the airfield and the dinner on Saturday evening is at the hotel's restaurant. Le Mas d'Estello is mentioned as a back-up, in case Le Cap is fully booked.
 
 Attached is an updated version of the program.
 Please contact me if you have more questions
 
 Remi Guerner
 
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		| Remi Guerner 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2018 2:58 am    Post subject: Re: International Fly-In, Gap-Tallard, France, June 9-10, 20 |   |  
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				| Some more info:
If you have booked your hotel room and cannot attend for any reason, you can always cancel your reservation, provided you do it at least 48 hours before arrival. That is applicable to both hotels.
 
 Remi Guerner
 
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				|  Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2018 6:21 am    Post subject: International Fly-In, Gap-Tallard, France, June 9-10, 2018 |   |  
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				| Hi Remi, 
Any thoughts about Sunday and Monday b/fast as we plan to arrive Saturday pm
 and depart Monday am
 Pete
 
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		| Remi Guerner 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2018 12:33 am    Post subject: Re: International Fly-In, Gap-Tallard, France, June 9-10, 20 |   |  
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				| Hi Pete,
You will be on your own for breakfast. I suggest you have it at your hotel.
 Remi
 
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		| Remi Guerner 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2018 2:09 am    Post subject: Re: International Fly-In, Gap-Tallard, France, June 9-10, 20 |   |  
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				| Some flatland pilots have expressed their reluctance to fly to Gap due to the location of the airfield in mountainous area.
If you are one of them, please have a look at:
 
 http://www.theeuropaclub.org/news/go-gap
 
 Program and registration form attached
 Looking forward to see you there
 Regards
 Remi Guerner
 
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		| willydewey 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 7:45 am    Post subject: Re: International Fly-In, Gap-Tallard, France, June 9-10, 20 |   |  
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				| iTS A BIT EARLY FOR ME REMI TO MAKE FIRM PLANS BUT I FULLY INTEND TO COME ALONG ALBEIT A FLIGHT ON MY OWN. I AM FAMILIAR WITH GAP TALLARD HAVING FLOWN THERE TWICE IN A GROB 109B MOTOR GLIDER. 
JUST LETS HOPE THAT THE WEATHER IS GOOD EN ROUTE FROM THE UK
 THIS WILL BE MY 57TH CROSSING OF LE MANCHE. THIS TIME DOUANE CLEARANCE  AT LE HAVRE
 i WILL BE IN G-IANI AND INTEND TO CAMP IN THE ALLOTED AREA. ARRIVAL ON THE SATURDAY WX PERMITING
 REGARDS BILL DEWEY
 
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		| Remi Guerner 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2018 8:44 am    Post subject: Re: International Fly-In, Gap-Tallard, France, June 9-10, 20 |   |  
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				| Hello Bill,
I hope you will come. Please send your registration form when you can.
 Looking fwd to meet you there.
 Regards
 Remi
 
  	  | willydewey wrote: |  	  | iTS A BIT EARLY FOR ME REMI TO MAKE FIRM PLANS BUT I FULLY INTEND TO COME ALONG ALBEIT A FLIGHT ON MY OWN. I AM FAMILIAR WITH GAP TALLARD HAVING FLOWN THERE TWICE IN A GROB 109B MOTOR GLIDER. JUST LETS HOPE THAT THE WEATHER IS GOOD EN ROUTE FROM THE UK
 THIS WILL BE MY 57TH CROSSING OF LE MANCHE. THIS TIME DOUANE CLEARANCE  AT LE HAVRE
 i WILL BE IN G-IANI AND INTEND TO CAMP IN THE ALLOTED AREA. ARRIVAL ON THE SATURDAY WX PERMITING
 REGARDS BILL DEWEY
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		| Roland 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2018 1:52 am    Post subject: Re: International Fly-In, Gap-Tallard, France, June 9-10, 20 |   |  
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				|  	  | willydewey wrote: |  	  | i THIS TIME DOUANE CLEARANCE  AT LE HAVRE 
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 But you won't need to clear customs from UK to France AFAIK.
 Just called the customs office in Germany a few days ago and the assured me, that you don't need to clear customs (only immigration), if you arrive in Germany from the UK, since the UK is in the Customs Union but no Shengen member.
 
 So an airfield with immigration should suffice.
 
 Regards
 Roland
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		| Remi Guerner 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2018 12:05 am    Post subject: Re: International Fly-In, Gap-Tallard, France, June 9-10, 20 |   |  
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				| Roland,
Immigration or customs: for France that does not make any difference. Coming from the UK or any other country outside Shengen , you must stop at a "border crossing" airport. Same thing for the return trip. Most of the time you will not see anybody from the police or customs, but you cannot avoid those stops.
 Regards
 Remi
 
 
 
  	  | Roland wrote: |  	  |  	  | willydewey wrote: |  	  | i THIS TIME DOUANE CLEARANCE  AT LE HAVRE 
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 But you won't need to clear customs from UK to France AFAIK.
 Just called the customs office in Germany a few days ago and the assured me, that you don't need to clear customs (only immigration), if you arrive in Germany from the UK, since the UK is in the Customs Union but no Shengen member.
 
 So an airfield with immigration should suffice.
 
 Regards
 Roland
 PH-ZTI
 XS TG 914
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				|  Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2018 1:40 am    Post subject: International Fly-In, Gap-Tallard, France, June 9-10, 2018 |   |  
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				| In the past I rarely saw customs at French airfields but in the last year or so they have turned up every time outbound and inbound including Sunday’s and lunchtimes. It might just be me of course. 
 They are always helpful, polite and it doesn’t take long.
 
 Kevin Challis
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 Roland,
 Immigration or customs: for France that does not make any difference. Coming from the UK or any other country outside Shengen , you must stop at a "border crossing" airport. Same thing for the return trip. Most of the time you will not see anybody from the police or customs, but you cannot avoid those stops.
 Regards
 Remi
 
 
 
 
 
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 > willydewey wrote:
 >> i THIS TIME DOUANE CLEARANCE  AT LE HAVRE
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 > But you won't need to clear customs from UK to France AFAIK.
 > Just called the customs office in Germany a few days ago and the assured me, that you don't need to clear customs (only immigration), if you arrive in Germany from the UK, since the UK is in the Customs Union but no Shengen member.
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 > So an airfield with immigration should suffice.
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 > Regards
 > Roland
 > PH-ZTI
 > XS TG 914
 
 
 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2018 1:09 pm    Post subject: Re: International Fly-In, Gap-Tallard, France, June 9-10, 20 |   |  
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				| It appears that this fly-in will no longer go ahead. I'm sorry to hear that Remi is not feeling well enough to manage the even. I'm sure we all hope you feel better soon, Remi.
 All the best.
 Carl
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		| Hitchflight 
 
  
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				|  Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2018 12:52 am    Post subject: Re: International Fly-In, Gap-Tallard, France, June 9-10, 20 |   |  
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				| STOP PRESS: GAP25: The Committee is desperately sorrow to learn of the illness of Rémi. We offer our support to Rémi. We are attempting to retain the event. A clarification will follow shortly later this week.
 
 
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				|  Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2018 11:31 pm    Post subject: Re: International Fly-In, Gap-Tallard, France, June 9-10, 20 |   |  
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				| EVENT IS DEFINITELY ON
 CHECKOUT THE EUROPA NEWS PAGE
 
 http://www.theeuropaclub.org/news/rassemblement-europa-de-gap-tallard-maintenu
 
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				|  Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2018 2:01 am    Post subject: Re: International Fly-In, Gap-Tallard, France, June 9-10, 20 |   |  
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				| Glad to hear it's still on.
 I don't know what routes people are planning to take, but I'm considering the following. Comments / advice appreciated:
 
 Membury UK to Troyes Barberey via Goodwood, Amiens and DEVIM to clear immigration.
 Troyes - Grenoble
 Follow the valley south of Grenoble past Corps, Saint Bonnet en Champsaur, Gap Hospital and into Gap Tallard.
 
 I could route via Valence, but that would be at the expense of some amazing mountain scenery.
 
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				|  Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 12:55 am    Post subject: Re: International Fly-In, Gap-Tallard, France, June 9-10, 20 |   |  
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				| Now available at Gap
 For the young at heart. The potential to learn how to fly, in quite a different way.
 
 http://www.theeuropaclub.org/news/soufflerie-now-open-at-gap-tallard-25
 
 Pour les jeunes de coeur. En plus des activités plus tranquilles déjà disponibles (la visite du château ou la visite de l'usine Beringer) est le potentiel pour apprendre à voler, d'une manière tout à fait différente.
 
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