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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2018 8:32 am    Post subject: Sun Visor Reply with quote

I have been living with suction cup car shades in the plane for the last year.  This is what I currently have: Shades
While they work pretty well for the passenger rear-windows and the doors, they are an unnecessary distraction, inconvenience, and safety issue for the wind shield.
I am ready to bite the bullet and put in some visors.
I am really only finding two options out there.
  1. Blue Sky's Visor -  ~$200
  2. Rosen + 3rd Axis - ~$520 

Reviews I am reading on Blue Sky are pretty abysmal.  They do not stay in place, any turbulence causes them to move, drop every time you touch down, etc.  The tightening screws eventually give out and things have to be replaced.
Rosen is apparently made from solid gold, personally dug by Tibetan monks on the north face of Mount Everest.  
2 fellow 10's on the airport have switched from BS to Ro$en.

Are there any other options out there?  Is this truly a matter of you get what you pay for?
What are you guys using?  What would you recommend?
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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2018 8:51 am    Post subject: Sun Visor Reply with quote

No issues with my Rosen’s. Trouble free and I have never given any thought to them failing. They just work as advertised, so the thought has never even crossed my mind.

Out of sight, out of mind.

Sent from my iPhone

[quote] On May 22, 2018, at 11:28 AM, Vernon Franklin <vernon.franklin(at)gmail.com> wrote:

I have been living with suction cup car shades in the plane for the last year. This is what I currently have: Shades

While they work pretty well for the passenger rear-windows and the doors, they are an unnecessary distraction, inconvenience, and safety issue for the wind shield.

I am ready to bite the bullet and put in some visors.
I am really only finding two options out there.
Blue Sky's Visor - ~$200
Rosen + 3rd Axis - ~$520

Reviews I am reading on Blue Sky are pretty abysmal. They do not stay in place, any turbulence causes them to move, drop every time you touch down, etc. The tightening screws eventually give out and things have to be replaced


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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2018 9:02 am    Post subject: Sun Visor Reply with quote

You get what you pay for with Rosen’s- but I’m shocked that they are north of $500.  But then, nothing surprises me anymore. 

Phil

On Tue, May 22, 2018 at 12:57 PM Phillip Perry <philperry9(at)gmail.com (philperry9(at)gmail.com)> wrote:

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No issues with my Rosen’s.  Trouble free and I have never given any thought to them failing.    They just work as advertised, so the thought has never even crossed my mind. 

Out of sight, out of mind. 

Sent from my iPhone

On May 22, 2018, at 11:28 AM, Vernon Franklin <vernon.franklin(at)gmail.com (vernon.franklin(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
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I have been living with suction cup car shades in the plane for the last year.  This is what I currently have: Shades
While they work pretty well for the passenger rear-windows and the doors, they are an unnecessary distraction, inconvenience, and safety issue for the wind shield.
I am ready to bite the bullet and put in some visors.
I am really only finding two options out there.
  1. Blue Sky's Visor -  ~$200
  2. Rosen + 3rd Axis - ~$520 

Reviews I am reading on Blue Sky are pretty abysmal.  They do not stay in place, any turbulence causes them to move, drop every time you touch down, etc.  The tightening screws eventually give out and things have to be replaced.
Rosen is apparently made from solid gold, personally dug by Tibetan monks on the north face of Mount Everest.  
2 fellow 10's on the airport have switched from BS to Ro$en.

Are there any other options out there?  Is this truly a matter of you get what you pay for?
What are you guys using?  What would you recommend?


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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2018 9:17 am    Post subject: Sun Visor Reply with quote

I have Rosen’s on my Cessna 170B and like them so well I bought a set for my RV-10 project.  If you go to SNF or OSH they do give a slight “Show Special” discount.

Jack Phillips
#40610 – about ready to put it on its gear
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia

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Subject: Sun Visor

I have been living with suction cup car shades in the plane for the last year. This is what I currently have: Shades



While they work pretty well for the passenger rear-windows and the doors, they are an unnecessary distraction, inconvenience, and safety issue for the wind shield.



I am ready to bite the bullet and put in some visors.

I am really only finding two options out there.
  1. Blue Sky's Visor - ~$200
  2. Rosen + 3rd Axis - ~$520




Reviews I am reading on Blue Sky are pretty abysmal. They do not stay in place, any turbulence causes them to move, drop every time you touch down, etc. The tightening screws eventually give out and things have to be replaced.



Rosen is apparently made from solid gold, personally dug by Tibetan monks on the north face of Mount Everest.



2 fellow 10's on the airport have switched from BS to Ro$en.



Are there any other options out there? Is this truly a matter of you get what you pay for?



What are you guys using? What would you recommend?



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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2018 9:38 am    Post subject: Sun Visor Reply with quote

I've had the Blue sky visors for many years now. There was a time when
they didn't want to stay in place very well, but after tightening them
up a bit they work fine for me. They're far cheaper, as you noted,
but also lighter, and more compact and easy to fold out of the way.
I agree that by all appearances the Rosen visors are built tougher
and everything else. I just don't think that $520 has any real
world way to justify that kind of price for a little bit of aluminum
and brackets, and plexi, and once the price gets that high I get
a little bit bothered to the point that I find it hard to support
them. To many others it may be well worth it. To me, I've been
happy with mine for much less cost. Your best bet is to
visit a couple of planes and physically see them first hand to
see what you find satisfactory. If you do go with Rosen, at
least buy them at some show special price.
Tim
On 05/22/2018 11:28 AM, Vernon Franklin wrote:
Quote:
I have been living with suction cup car shades in the plane for the last
year.  This is what I currently have: Shades
<https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06XKZTNYP/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1>

While they work pretty well for the passenger rear-windows and the
doors, they are an unnecessary distraction, inconvenience, and safety
issue for the wind shield.

I am ready to bite the bullet and put in some visors.
I am really only finding two options out there.

1. Blue Sky's Visor <http://www.blueskysunvisors.com/> -  ~$200
2. Rosen + 3rd Axis
<http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/pspages/rosenvisors.php#> -
~$520


Reviews I am reading on Blue Sky are pretty abysmal.  They do not stay
in place, any turbulence causes them to move, drop every time you touch
down, etc.  The tightening screws eventually give out and things have to
be replaced.

Rosen is apparently made from solid gold, personally dug by Tibetan
monks on the north face of Mount Everest.

2 fellow 10's on the airport have switched from BS to Ro$en.

Are there any other options out there?  Is this truly a matter of you
get what you pay for?

What are you guys using?  What would you recommend?

--
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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2018 12:14 pm    Post subject: Re: Sun Visor Reply with quote

Okay guys. If you place any value on ‘looks’ just skip this post.
I’ll pay airplane prices for airplane parts, but a sun visor? I took a piece of 2x4, drilled a hole thru it, cut it lengthwise so now I had two semi-circular holes, put it together with some bolts and wingnuts on the center post. Tension on the bolts adjusted so it slides up and down on the post with some force applied, but otherwise stays put. I think I put some felt or velco inside the hole, not sure. Two dowl rods extend out horizontally on each side. Attached to each rod is a green plastic visor from ACS with its suction cup removed ($15 iirc). These have pretty good optical quality. I can move them up/down, or side to side a bit, but no side window coverage. Rotate up and out of the way when not in use. Look like hell but they work.


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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2018 12:27 pm    Post subject: Sun Visor Reply with quote

I agree with Tim. I bought mine at a Flymart, but believe they are the
Blue Sky. I might have needed to adjust tension initially. I rarely move
mine much from the straight ahead max shade position, which probably
reduces wear and tear. Otherwise, just buy some static cling tinting
material, cut into appropriate size/shape, and slap it up there. That is
what I use for side windows.
Kelly

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I've had the Blue sky visors for many years now.  There was a time when
they didn't want to stay in place very well, but after tightening them
up a bit they work fine for me.  They're far cheaper, as you noted,
but also lighter, and more compact and easy to fold out of the way.
.  To me, I've been

Quote:
happy with mine for much less cost.  Your best bet is to
visit a couple of planes and physically see them first hand to
see what you find satisfactory. If you do go with Rosen, at
least buy them at some show special price.
Tim




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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2018 3:09 pm    Post subject: Sun Visor Reply with quote

I’m another happy Blue Sky customer. Coming up on 10 years and north of 1000 hours. I flew professionally with Rosen’s for decades and they are great. I looked at both when I was building. One thing I didn’t particularly care for was the size of the Rosen’s. In my opinion, they’re too big for the airplane, when compared to Blue Sky. I adjust the tension screws once or twice a year, and have had no problems. I can even adjust them in flight with the short Phillips head I keep in the cockpit to open my oil door on the cowling.

David Maib
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I've had the Blue sky visors for many years now. There was a time when
they didn't want to stay in place very well, but after tightening them
up a bit they work fine for me. They're far cheaper, as you noted,
but also lighter, and more compact and easy to fold out of the way.
I agree that by all appearances the Rosen visors are built tougher
and everything else. I just don't think that $520 has any real
world way to justify that kind of price for a little bit of aluminum
and brackets, and plexi, and once the price gets that high I get
a little bit bothered to the point that I find it hard to support
them. To many others it may be well worth it. To me, I've been
happy with mine for much less cost. Your best bet is to
visit a couple of planes and physically see them first hand to
see what you find satisfactory. If you do go with Rosen, at
least buy them at some show special price.
Tim


> On 05/22/2018 11:28 AM, Vernon Franklin wrote:
> I have been living with suction cup car shades in the plane for the last year. This is what I currently have: Shades <https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06XKZTNYP/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1>
> While they work pretty well for the passenger rear-windows and the doors, they are an unnecessary distraction, inconvenience, and safety issue for the wind shield.
> I am ready to bite the bullet and put in some visors.
> I am really only finding two options out there.
> 1. Blue Sky's Visor <http://www.blueskysunvisors.com/> - ~$200
> 2. Rosen + 3rd Axis
> <http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/pspages/rosenvisors.php#> -
> ~$520 Reviews I am reading on Blue Sky are pretty abysmal. They do not stay in place, any turbulence causes them to move, drop every time you touch down, etc. The tightening screws eventually give out and things have to be replaced.
> Rosen is apparently made from solid gold, personally dug by Tibetan monks on the north face of Mount Everest.
> 2 fellow 10's on the airport have switched from BS to Ro$en.
> Are there any other options out there? Is this truly a matter of you get what you pay for?
> What are you guys using? What would you recommend?
> --
> Vernon Franklin






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PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2018 5:26 am    Post subject: Sun Visor Reply with quote

Raise your hand if you'd like to see pics of Bob's DIY visors...

Smile
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Okay guys. If you place any value on ‘looks’ just skip this post.
I’ll pay airplane prices for airplane parts, but a sun visor? I took a piece of 2x4, drilled a hole thru it, cut it lengthwise so now I had two semi-circular holes, put it together with some bolts and wingnuts on the center post. Tension on the bolts adjusted so it slides up and down on the post with some force applied, but otherwise stays put. I think I put some felt or velco inside the hole, not sure. Two dowl rods extend out horizontally on each side. Attached to each rod is a green plastic visor from ACS with its suction cup removed ($15 iirc). These have pretty good optical quality. I can move them up/down, or side to side a bit, but no side window coverage. Rotate up and out of the way when not in use. Look like hell but they work.

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Raise your hand if you'd like to see pics of Bob's DIY visors...

Smile
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Okay guys. If you place any value on ‘looks’ just skip this post.
I’ll pay airplane prices for airplane parts, but a sun visor? I took a piece of 2x4, drilled a hole thru it, cut it lengthwise so now I had two semi-circular holes, put it together with some bolts and wingnuts on the center post. Tension on the bolts adjusted so it slides up and down on the post with some force applied, but otherwise stays put. I think I put some felt or velco inside the hole, not sure. Two dowl rods extend out horizontally on each side. Attached to each rod is a green plastic visor from ACS with its suction cup removed ($15 iirc). These have pretty good optical quality. I can move them up/down, or side to side a bit, but no side window coverage. Rotate up and out of the way when not in use. Look like hell but they work.

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PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2018 7:16 am    Post subject: Re: Sun Visor Reply with quote

I’ve got the visors that Blue Sky make specifically for the RV10 and would recommend them. They are made well and they fit and work extremely well, and look good. Fitting was simple with each side only needing one hole in the pillar and secured by the one screw. After the initial fit I applied release agent to the square mounting peg and built up around the peg about 3/4inch with a epoxy/flox mix which gave more security and support to the mount and also a more finished look, IMHO Cheers from Western Australia

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PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2018 9:58 am    Post subject: Sun Visor Reply with quote

Definitely! Bob, where are the goods?
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Subject: Re: Re: Sun Visor

Raise your hand if you'd like to see pics of Bob's DIY visors...

Smile
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Okay guys. If you place any value on ‘looks’ just skip this post.
I’ll pay airplane prices for airplane parts, but a sun visor? I took a piece of 2x4, drilled a hole thru it, cut it lengthwise so now I had two semi-circular holes, put it together with some bolts and wingnuts on the center post. Tension on the bolts adjusted so it slides up and down on the post with some force applied, but otherwise stays put. I think I put some felt or velco inside the hole, not sure. Two dowl rods extend out horizontally on each side. Attached to each rod is a green plastic visor from ACS with its suction cup removed ($15 iirc). These have pretty good optical quality. I can move them up/down, or side to side a bit, but no side window coverage. Rotate up and out of the way when not in use. Look like hell but they work.

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PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2018 3:22 am    Post subject: Sun Visor Reply with quote

Try a google search for “rammount visor”
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Raise your hand if you'd like to see pics of Bob's DIY visors...

Smile
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Okay guys. If you place any value on ‘looks’ just skip this post.
I’ll pay airplane prices for airplane parts, but a sun visor? I took a piece of 2x4, drilled a hole thru it, cut it lengthwise so now I had two semi-circular holes, put it together with some bolts and wingnuts on the center post. Tension on the bolts adjusted so it slides up and down on the post with some force applied, but otherwise stays put. I think I put some felt or velco inside the hole, not sure. Two dowl rods extend out horizontally on each side. Attached to each rod is a green plastic visor from ACS with its suction cup removed ($15 iirc). These have pretty good optical quality. I can move them up/down, or side to side a bit, but no side window coverage. Rotate up and out of the way when not in use. Look like hell but they work.

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See if this works....


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PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2018 5:57 pm    Post subject: Re: Sun Visor Reply with quote

Nope.

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PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2018 7:30 pm    Post subject: Re: Sun Visor Reply with quote

Ha -Smile
My comment was aimed at the fact that two previous attempts to post a picture had failed (and since deleted), but I can see your interpretation. At least you were forewarned about the lack of beauty! I think the photo exaggerates their size; each is 6” x 12”.


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PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2018 7:46 pm    Post subject: Sun Visor Reply with quote

Smile. I think he meant the pics didn’t post. I didn’t see them either.
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Ha -Smile
My comment was aimed at the fact that two previous attempts to post a picture had failed (and since deleted), but I can see your interpretation. At least you were forewarned about the lack of beauty! I think the photo exaggerates their size; each is 6” x 12”.

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Help! I see the photo. Posted on TinyPics. Any ideas?

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PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2018 8:21 pm    Post subject: Sun Visor Reply with quote

It does show on the web:

http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=480401

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PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2018 4:32 am    Post subject: Sun Visor Reply with quote

Ah sure. So it’s there but just that the email viewers can’t see it.
That makes sense, thanks Lenny!
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