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PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2018 12:15 pm    Post subject: Fuel level indicator Reply with quote

I have an external tube to check the fuel level (see pix). It's sometimes hard to see the fuel in the tube. I thought of adding a small ball float in the tube for visibility. I know J3's use a cork on the bottom of a wire for fuel level. Don't know if it is coated or sealed with anything? Any ideas from the group on what to use? Obviously must be compatible with fuel.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2018 12:24 pm    Post subject: Fuel level indicator Reply with quote

Rex Rodebush - if you're really lucky you can find a bead from some sort of necklace that will be liquid-proof
end not dissolve in fuel — test it first!
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I have an external tube to check the fuel level (see pix). It's sometimes hard to see the fuel in the tube. I thought of adding a small ball float in the tube for visibility. I know J3's use a cork on the bottom of a wire for fuel level. Don't know if it is coated or sealed with anything? Any ideas from the group on what to use? Obviously must be compatible with fuel.




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PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2018 1:07 pm    Post subject: Fuel level indicator Reply with quote

On 6/8/2018 3:15 PM, Rex Rodebush wrote:
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I have an external tube to check the fuel level (see pix). It's sometimes hard to see the fuel in the tube. I thought of adding a small ball float in the tube for visibility. I know J3's use a cork on the bottom of a wire for fuel level. Don't know if it is coated or sealed with anything? Any ideas from the group on what to use? Obviously must be compatible with fuel.
It's been done, so you wouldn't be the 1st. You do need to be sure it

can't hang up in the tube, block the fuel's movement in the tube, or
*escape the tube*. Depending on how the system is plumbed, you could
block the fuel vent, give yourself a false fuel level reading, or even
block fuel flow (if it escaped the tube).

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2018 1:20 pm    Post subject: Re: Fuel level indicator Reply with quote

This guy has an interesting idea - the pattern behind the tubing changes shape depending on whether there is fuel in front of it.
http://mybearhawkpatrol.com/finish/fuelsight.html

Or you could just go with this:
http://www.univair.com/piper/piper-pa-11/view-all/u10853-000-piper-fuel-gauge-float-ball/


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2018 1:34 pm    Post subject: Fuel level indicator Reply with quote

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This guy has an interesting idea - the pattern behind the tubing changes shape depending on whether there is fuel in front of it.
http://mybearhawkpatrol.com/finish/fuelsight.html

Or you could just go with this:
http://www.univair.com/piper/piper-pa-11/view-all/u10853-000-piper-fuel-gauge-float-ball/

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He did say that he used polyurethane  tubing. If you look up

polyurethane's chemical resistance, benzine isn't one of them.
https://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/polyurethane-chemical-resistance-d_1878.html

Hard to find gasoline without benzine.....

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2018 1:46 pm    Post subject: Re: Fuel level indicator Reply with quote

Richard, The Piper fuel ball looks perfect! I'll order one. Thanks!

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2018 2:19 pm    Post subject: Fuel level indicator Reply with quote

Rex R/Kolbers:

Looks like you are using yellow Tygon type fuel line with a yellow
background.

My sight gauge is clear, for the most part, with Cub yellow fabric
background. Been working good for me since day one.

john h
Titus, Alabama

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2018 2:21 pm    Post subject: Fuel level indicator Reply with quote

My sight gauge uses clear Tygon. Working fine since 1992.

john h
Titus, Alabama


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2018 2:23 pm    Post subject: Fuel level indicator Reply with quote

Order two for a pair of balls. Wink

john h
Titus, Alabama

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2018 4:23 pm    Post subject: Re: Fuel level indicator Reply with quote

John,

Wasn't aware that the tygon came in clear. The only one I could find was yellow from McMaster-Carr. I'll see if I can find the clear version. BTW, can't afford two balls, at my age one will be enough!


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2018 4:43 pm    Post subject: Re: Fuel level indicator Reply with quote

John,

The only Tygon that I can find that is recommended for gas is the yellow version. Do you change your gas gage line every few years or so? Do you know what type of Tygon you use?


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2018 5:58 pm    Post subject: Fuel level indicator Reply with quote

The clear food grade should be fine. It is PVC.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2018 5:58 pm    Post subject: Fuel level indicator Reply with quote

Amazon is a wonderful thing. If you don't believe me, ask Larry Cottrell.

Do a Google search or go to this page to find all kinds and colors of Tygon:

https://www.amazon.com/Plastic-Tubing-Tygon/s?ie=UTF8&page=1&rh=n%3A16414401
%2Cp_4%3ATygon

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2018 6:07 pm    Post subject: Fuel level indicator Reply with quote

Tygon (capitalized)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tygon_tubing

On 6/8/2018 8:58 PM, John Hauck wrote:
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Amazon is a wonderful thing. If you don't believe me, ask Larry Cottrell.

Do a Google search or go to this page to find all kinds and colors of Tygon:

https://www.amazon.com/Plastic-Tubing-Tygon/s?ie=UTF8&page=1&rh=n%3A16414401
%2Cp_4%3ATygon

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 09, 2018 1:05 pm    Post subject: Fuel level indicator Reply with quote

It's been so long I don't remember what I made the float out of.  I don't think it was cork,  maybe I carved it out of wood or found a plastic ball used  a permanent marker to make it more visible.    I do remember building a restriction that I fit inside the line that keep the float from sloshing out of the sight tube.  Did this by cutting 2 sections of fuel tube 3/16 or so long pinched it and using a wire slid  them down the sight  tube to match the top and bottom of the fuel tank with the ball in-between.   The fuel could get past the restriction to float the ball, and at the same time keep the ball out of the pumps and carbs where it could cause trouble.

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I have an external tube to check the fuel level (see pix).  It's sometimes hard to see the fuel in the tube.  I thought of adding a small ball float in the tube for visibility.  I know J3's use a cork on the bottom of a wire for fuel level.  Don't know if it is coated or sealed with anything?  Any ideas from the group on what to use?  Obviously must be compatible with fuel.




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PostPosted: Sat Jun 09, 2018 1:45 pm    Post subject: Fuel level indicator Reply with quote

Russ, used to use shellac but modern fuel additives in car gas might affect it like they did the old sloshing compound.

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Rex Rodebush - if you're really lucky you can find a bead from some sort of necklace that will be liquid-proof
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