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AlaskaChang801

Joined: 26 Jan 2018
Posts: 36

Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2018 4:20 pm Post subject: Brackett Air filter

I don’t know how I haven’t heard of Craig Payne’s website before now, but never. The less, I’m reading with sweat the awesome I formation on his page. 

I came across one mod, that I’ve been contemplating asking about until now and have found out it’s already a mod you guys do. 

So with that being said can anyone shed some light on where to get this mod or what’s involved.

Clouddog

Joined: 02 Jun 2016
Posts: 117
Location: Lebanon, TN

Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2018 4:49 pm Post subject: Brackett Air filter

If your referring to The Brackett Air filter sock, it slips over the metal carb intake screen. If it gets oil on it, the glue they use to Sean it together breaks down. The filters for the CJ are NOT on their website but you can call and order from them. 



Check with them but they say you will have a  little power loss due to the additional filtration. I took mine off for the summer months because I need all the power I can get coming off a shorter grass strip. Yes I know, I'm operating off grass and don't use it. What can I say. Somehow the trees at the end are more of a concern.

On Mon, Aug 27, 2018, 19:26 AlaskaChang801 <themilnes95(at)gmail.com (themilnes95(at)gmail.com)> wrote:



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 I don’t know how I haven’t heard of Craig Payne’s website before now, but never. The less, I’m reading with sweat the awesome I formation on his page. 

 I came across one mod, that I’ve been contemplating asking about until now and have found out it’s already a mod you guys do. 

 So with that being said can anyone shed some light on where to get this mod or what’s involved.

 

 

 

 

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AlaskaChang801

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Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2018 4:57 pm Post subject: Re: Brackett Air filter

Thanks Greg. 



Yeah actually just found a bit more about it deeper into the articles on his website. I didn’t know if was a replacement filter more inline with something like a K&N style or not, but you mentioned it was a slip-over sock then I’ll proably pass on that for the reason you mentioned.

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Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2018 1:56 am Post subject: Brackett Air Filter

These air filters are simple but do a great job of keeping silica out of the engine. "Dirt" causes rapid wear in any engine. Off-road racers for example, depend on them.

I can't say I ever saw a measurable difference in Manifold Pressure by adding a filter but I'm sure there is some loss. For the air racing that I did with the CJ, I replaced the whole unit with a ram air duct. I did design a retro-fit kit for a K&N style filter but it offered no advantage in performance or price.

Order directly from Brackett, I think it is a B-197, you won't find it listed. I have operated from short, turf fields and the best fix for that is an M-14P. Suck it up, Go Big or Stay Home.

BTW, Allen Baker of Gulfport, MS is the new, proud owner of N285CJ, he just got it home on Sunday after several days of sweating out Florida heat training with Pappy. Pappy hung in there but did look like one tired old dog on summer afternoons 😂



Craig Payne

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Joined: 24 May 2010
Posts: 117

Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2018 8:56 am Post subject: Brackett Air Filter

I’ve used the Brackett filter on the M-14P of my CJ for years. No significant loss of power noted. Might be over-doing this, but I change it every 50 hours. 



Here's an image of the packaging. As mentioned, this is not listed in their regular catalog. 



Warren Hill

N464TW

Mesa, AZ

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		  On Aug 28, 2018, at 2:54 AM, Craig Payne <yakman285(at)gmail.com (yakman285(at)gmail.com)> wrote:

These air filters are simple but do a great job of keeping silica out of the engine. "Dirt" causes rapid wear in any engine. Off-road racers for example, depend on them.



I can't say I ever saw a measurable difference in Manifold Pressure by adding a filter but I'm sure there is some loss. For the air racing that I did with the CJ, I replaced the whole unit with a ram air duct. I did design a retro-fit kit for a K&N style filter but it offered no advantage in performance or price.



Order directly from Brackett, I think it is a B-197, you won't find it listed. I have operated from short, turf fields and the best fix for that is an M-14P. Suck it up, Go Big or Stay Home.



BTW, Allen Baker of Gulfport, MS is the new, proud owner of N285CJ, he just got it home on Sunday after several days of sweating out Florida heat training with Pappy. Pappy hung in there but did look like one tired old dog on summer afternoons 😂



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captPod

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Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2018 9:11 am Post subject: Brackett Air Filter

Is 285CJ your airplane? Hope you don’t miss it too much and you remain a member of our little band of yankee air 



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		   On Aug 28, 2018, at 5:54 AM, Craig Payne <yakman285(at)gmail.com> wrote:

 

 These air filters are simple but do a great job of keeping silica out of the engine. "Dirt" causes rapid wear in any engine. Off-road racers for example, depend on them.

 

 I can't say I ever saw a measurable difference in Manifold Pressure by adding a filter but I'm sure there is some loss. For the air racing that I did with the CJ, I replaced the whole unit with a ram air duct. I did design a retro-fit kit for a K&N style filter but it offered no advantage in performance or price.

 

 Order directly from Brackett, I think it is a B-197, you won't find it listed. I have operated from short, turf fields and the best fix for that is an M-14P. Suck it up, Go Big or Stay Home.

 

 BTW, Allen Baker of Gulfport, MS is the new, proud owner of N285CJ, he just got it home on Sunday after several days of sweating out Florida heat training with Pappy. Pappy hung in there but did look like one tired old dog on summer afternoons 😂

 

 Craig Payne

stephen.hayne

Joined: 01 Nov 2013
Posts: 59
Location: United States

Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2018 1:01 pm Post subject: Re: Brackett Air Filter

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		   On Aug 28, 2018, at 5:54 AM, Craig Payne <yakman285> wrote:

 

 These air filters are simple but do a great job of keeping silica out of the engine. "Dirt" causes rapid wear in any engine. Off-road racers for example, depend on them.

 

 I can't say I ever saw a measurable difference in Manifold Pressure by adding a filter but I'm sure there is some loss.... 	


I use one on my CJ6A and don't notice any power differences.



Stephen

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Ttail

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Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2018 1:30 pm Post subject: Re: Brackett Air filter

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pennington.construction.i
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Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2018 2:44 pm Post subject: Brackett Air Filter

I don’t think the 50 hour cycle is over kill.  



Got my M14 powered CJ two years ago.  

The bracket filter on the plane was adhered to the wire frame under and had to be soaked off with AV gas.  

I also change mine every 50 hours.  

Mark



On Tue, Aug 28, 2018 at 1:08 PM Warren Hill <k7wx(at)earthlink.net (k7wx(at)earthlink.net)> wrote:



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		  I’ve used the Brackett filter on the M-14P of my CJ for years. No significant loss of power noted. Might be over-doing this, but I change it every 50 hours. 

Here's an image of the packaging. As mentioned, this is not listed in their regular catalog. 

Warren Hill

N464TW

Mesa, AZ





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		  On Aug 28, 2018, at 2:54 AM, Craig Payne <yakman285(at)gmail.com (yakman285(at)gmail.com)> wrote:

These air filters are simple but do a great job of keeping silica out of the engine. "Dirt" causes rapid wear in any engine. Off-road racers for example, depend on them.

I can't say I ever saw a measurable difference in Manifold Pressure by adding a filter but I'm sure there is some loss. For the air racing that I did with the CJ, I replaced the whole unit with a ram air duct. I did design a retro-fit kit for a K&N style filter but it offered no advantage in performance or price.

Order directly from Brackett, I think it is a B-197, you won't find it listed. I have operated from short, turf fields and the best fix for that is an M-14P. Suck it up, Go Big or Stay Home.

BTW, Allen Baker of Gulfport, MS is the new, proud owner of N285CJ, he just got it home on Sunday after several days of sweating out Florida heat training with Pappy. Pappy hung in there but did look like one tired old dog on summer afternoons 😂



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Viperdoc

Joined: 19 Apr 2014
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Location: 08A

Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2018 6:03 am Post subject: Brackett Air Filter

Okay, have to plead ignorance. Have not even seen this on a YAK. How does it attach to the screen?Doc



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On Aug 28, 2018, at 5:43 PM, Mark Pennington <pennington.construction.inc.1(at)gmail.com (pennington.construction.inc.1(at)gmail.com)> wrote:

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		  I don’t think the 50 hour cycle is over kill.  



Got my M14 powered CJ two years ago.  

The bracket filter on the plane was adhered to the wire frame under and had to be soaked off with AV gas.  

I also change mine every 50 hours.  

Mark



On Tue, Aug 28, 2018 at 1:08 PM Warren Hill <k7wx(at)earthlink.net (k7wx(at)earthlink.net)> wrote:



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		  I’ve used the Brackett filter on the M-14P of my CJ for years. No significant loss of power noted. Might be over-doing this, but I change it every 50 hours. 

Here's an image of the packaging. As mentioned, this is not listed in their regular catalog. 

Warren Hill

N464TW

Mesa, AZ





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		  On Aug 28, 2018, at 2:54 AM, Craig Payne <yakman285(at)gmail.com (yakman285(at)gmail.com)> wrote:

These air filters are simple but do a great job of keeping silica out of the engine. "Dirt" causes rapid wear in any engine. Off-road racers for example, depend on them.

I can't say I ever saw a measurable difference in Manifold Pressure by adding a filter but I'm sure there is some loss. For the air racing that I did with the CJ, I replaced the whole unit with a ram air duct. I did design a retro-fit kit for a K&N style filter but it offered no advantage in performance or price.

Order directly from Brackett, I think it is a B-197, you won't find it listed. I have operated from short, turf fields and the best fix for that is an M-14P. Suck it up, Go Big or Stay Home.

BTW, Allen Baker of Gulfport, MS is the new, proud owner of N285CJ, he just got it home on Sunday after several days of sweating out Florida heat training with Pappy. Pappy hung in there but did look like one tired old dog on summer afternoons 😂



Craig Payne

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