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Greg Cardinal



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2018 5:32 pm    Post subject: EAA Chapter 25 Pietenpol Reply with quote

The EAA Chapter 25 Pietenpol project was rolled out of Dale Johnson’s workshop today for a pre-covering full assembly check.
Today was the first day the wheels rolled on grass and the first time both wings and empennage were assembled at the same time.

The airplane was weighed and tipped the scales at 637 lbs. Final weighing will give us a very accurate weight of just the covering.

Attached photo was taken during assembly.

Greg Cardinal
Minneapolis


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2018 6:43 pm    Post subject: EAA Chapter 25 Pietenpol Reply with quote

Absolutely beautiful!

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2018 8:36 pm    Post subject: EAA Chapter 25 Pietenpol Reply with quote

Nice job. I recognize that nose bowl. It looks like one I have seen on another Pietenpol......

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On Sat, Sep 15, 2018 at 6:33 PM, Greg Cardinal
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The EAA Chapter 25 Pietenpol project was rolled out of Dale Johnson’s workshop today for a pre-covering full assembly check.
Today was the first day the wheels rolled on grass and the first time both wings and empennage were assembled at the same time.

The airplane was weighed and tipped the scales at 637 lbs. Final weighing will give us a very accurate weight of just the covering.

Attached photo was taken during assembly.

Greg Cardinal
Minneapolis



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2018 8:12 am    Post subject: Re: EAA Chapter 25 Pietenpol Reply with quote

Nice-!! It always seems such a shame to cover up all that work, and an uncovered Air Camper is just about the absolute best teaching tool available for other builders to study. Take plenty of photos, especially close-ups of the fittings, attachments, and control cabling. Questions are always coming up about those things.

If Chris Tracy hasn't yet set up a photo page for this airplane on his Westcoastpiet website, I'm sure he'll do it because this is the kind of imagery that can help explain a lot about how the airplane goes together. Along those lines, and because my airplane was already covered when I got it so I didn't know what and how, can you tell us which cables, tubes, and wires were routed along the side stringers on the airplane? I realize that this will vary from airplane to airplane depending on how the instruments and controls are arranged in the cockpit and where they lead to ahead of the firewall, but it's good to think about those things before covering and in fact, I sometimes wish there had been a conduit or channel installed there on my airplane so that the cable, tube, or wire might be accessed later.


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2018 12:01 pm    Post subject: EAA Chapter 25 Pietenpol Reply with quote

On the right side we routed magneto P-leads, tachometer, oil pressure and
oil temperature. Fuel primer lines and the fuel supply line are routed on
the left side.

The airplane has multiple owners of various weights and heights. The
fuselage is an inch or two deeper than plans and there was a slight stretch
to the fuselage here and there.
Cabanes are angled back 5.75" allowing for pilots weighing anywhere between
130# - 285#. These are approximate weights and final numbers won't be known
until after covering.

Moving the wing back that far complicated the routing of the aileron cables.

Rear cockpit is fitted with toe brakes. Front cockpit has heel brakes
mechanically linked to the toe brake actuating levers. The heel brake
linkages are installed with quick disconnects so they can be easily disabled
when giving rides to non-pilot types.

Rear seatback is angled back and curved for comfort. It is by far the
roomiest Pietenpol cockpit I have ever seen.

Brodhead 2019? We shall see...

Greg Cardinal
Minneapolis

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 9:38 am    Post subject: EAA Chapter 25 Pietenpol Reply with quote

The Piet looks good Greg. I like the weight of 637 also; you must have been careful during building to keep it light. Cheers, Jim
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On September 15, 2018 at 6:31 PM Greg Cardinal <gcardinal(at)comcast.net> wrote:


The EAA Chapter 25 Pietenpol project was rolled out of Dale Johnson’s workshop today for a pre-covering full assembly check.
Today was the first day the wheels rolled on grass and the first time both wings and empennage were assembled at the same time.
 
The airplane was weighed and tipped the scales at 637 lbs. Final weighing will give us a very accurate weight of just the covering.
 
Attached photo was taken during assembly.
 
Greg Cardinal
Minneapolis

 


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 9:42 am    Post subject: EAA Chapter 25 Pietenpol Reply with quote

Thanks for this information Greg; I appreciate it as well as Oscar does! Jim
[quote] On September 16, 2018 at 12:59 PM Greg Cardinal <gcardinal(at)comcast.net> wrote:




On the right side we routed magneto P-leads, tachometer, oil pressure and
oil temperature. Fuel primer lines and the fuel supply line are routed on
the left side.

The airplane has multiple owners of various weights and heights. The
fuselage is an inch or two deeper than plans and there was a slight stretch
to the fuselage here and there.
Cabanes are angled back 5.75" allowing for pilots weighing anywhere between
130# - 285#. These are approximate weights and final numbers won't be known
until after covering.

Moving the wing back that far complicated the routing of the aileron cables.

Rear cockpit is fitted with toe brakes. Front cockpit has heel brakes
mechanically linked to the toe brake actuating levers. The heel brake
linkages are installed with quick disconnects so they can be easily disabled
when giving rides to non-pilot types.

Rear seatback is angled back and curved for comfort. It is by far the
roomiest Pietenpol cockpit I have ever seen.

Brodhead 2019? We shall see...

Greg Cardinal
Minneapolis



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 12:27 pm    Post subject: EAA Chapter 25 Pietenpol Reply with quote

Very nice Greg!

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The EAA Chapter 25 Pietenpol project was rolled out of Dale Johnson’s workshop today for a pre-covering full assembly check.
Today was the first day the wheels rolled on grass and the first time both wings and empennage were assembled at the same time.

The airplane was weighed and tipped the scales at 637 lbs. Final weighing will give us a very accurate weight of just the covering.

Attached photo was taken during assembly.

Greg Cardinal
Minneapolis

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 7:30 pm    Post subject: Re: EAA Chapter 25 Pietenpol Reply with quote

Greg; a couple of additional questions, if you don't mind. (1) What engine and carb do you have on there? (2) What's the fuel capacity in your centersection tank? (3) Are those the Carlson extruded aluminum wing struts? Also, and this is a small item, it looks like you have black (CAT) hose from the carb heat muff to the air box. CAT is rated for 300F, while the red-orange SCAT hose is silicone impregnated and is rated higher, 500F. The recommendations I've seen are to use SCAT for anything ahead of the firewall, but in this application with such a short section of hose and a LOT of ventilation air passing over it, probably not a factor. For a tightly cowled installation, yes.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 7:52 pm    Post subject: EAA Chapter 25 Pietenpol Reply with quote

Continental A65 with a Stromberg carb.
16 gallon center section tank.
Yes, those are Carlson aluminum struts.
Comments on the SCAT tubing have been noted.

Greg Cardinal

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2018 7:12 pm    Post subject: Re: EAA Chapter 25 Pietenpol Reply with quote

That is beautiful.

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