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PostPosted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 3:14 pm    Post subject: Pulsar Spar Reply with quote

Hi, Im new to the Pulsar, (not new to building) I have just bought an un started kit from a guy that has gone into care. the kit was delivered I believe in 1997 (to the UK) and is almost complete. it has a new (then) 582 with all the yellow bungs still in, 2 props, still in boxes (one wood and one ground adjustable)
there is composite wing skins and composite L/E "D" boxes (inner ones are tanks) lots of blue and brown foam ribs etc. and I have all the engine, wing and fuse kits (bags of bits) and it all appears complete except for there are no main spars! Can these still be purchased as I assume they will be the composite variety?

Also I have borrowed some construction books from another Pulsar owner but they refer to wood wings so if anyone has some with composite wings I can borrow so I can copy and return it would be appreciated.

thanks in advance

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 4:17 pm    Post subject: Pulsar Spar Reply with quote

Dave, something to to in the meantime - - - replace all the blue foam ribs with fuel resistant foam before you start assembly. Someone else will know the name of the foam to use - - Klegcell I think.

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Hi, Im new to the Pulsar, (not new to building) I have just bought an un started kit from a guy that has gone into care. the kit was delivered I believe in 1997 (to the UK) and is almost complete. it has a new (then) 582 with all the yellow bungs still in, 2 props, still in boxes (one wood and one ground adjustable)
there is composite wing skins and composite L/E "D" boxes (inner ones are tanks) lots of blue and brown foam ribs etc. and I have all the engine, wing and fuse kits (bags of bits) and it all appears complete except for there are no main spars! Can these still be purchased as I assume they will be the composite variety?

Also I have borrowed some construction books from another Pulsar owner but they refer to wood wings so if anyone has some with composite wings I can borrow so I can copy and return it would be appreciated.

thanks in advance

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 2:17 am    Post subject: Re: Pulsar Spar Reply with quote

Hi Brian, there are quite a few brown ribs, but as I don't have any drawings etc so I have not sussed out which ones I do have, but will replace them anyway as I assume the the material is reasonably easy to come by. (some have been nibbled by mice) My main concern is whether I can get a spar, as it will be a non starter without that.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 09, 2013 7:10 am    Post subject: Pulsar Spar Reply with quote

Hello Dave,

I asked a guy who is helping the widow of Mr. Degani, the former owner
of Pulsar Aircraft, to sell the assets, about spars. Here is his
response:

Hello Sonja,

Good question, I have not closed the loop on Pulsar just yet but may
be able to check and see if I can help find some wing spars.

Bob


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Hi, Im new to the Pulsar, (not new to building) I have just bought an un
started kit from a guy that has gone into care. the kit was delivered I
believe in 1997 (to the UK) and is almost complete. it has a new (then) 582
with all the yellow bungs still in, 2 props, still in boxes (one wood and
one ground adjustable)
there is composite wing skins and composite L/E "D" boxes (inner ones are
tanks) lots of blue and brown foam ribs etc. and I have all the engine, wing
and fuse kits (bags of bits) and it all appears complete except for there
are no main spars! Can these still be purchased as I assume they will be
the composite variety?

Also I have borrowed some construction books from another Pulsar owner but
they refer to wood wings so if anyone has some with composite wings I can
borrow so I can copy and return it would be appreciated.

thanks in advance

Dave Stephens


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 09, 2013 7:16 am    Post subject: Re: Pulsar Spar Reply with quote

Many thanks for that! keep me posted Smile

cheers

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 10, 2013 1:45 am    Post subject: Re: Pulsar Spar Reply with quote

If you can't get composite spars would it be possible to construct spruce spars as per the earlier Pulsars? I guess in this case the MTOW would be limited to that of the earlier Pulsars.
Perhaps someone knows and can advise if wooden spars would be compatible with the other bits you have for your wings?
Jst ideas
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 10, 2013 8:20 am    Post subject: Pulsar Spar Reply with quote

If your kit has fuel tanks in the wings, do not use blue
foam ribs. They will desolve.

Clarke
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Hi, Im new to the Pulsar, (not new to building) I have
just bought an un started kit from a guy that has gone
into care. the kit was delivered I believe in 1997 (to
the UK) and is almost complete. it has a new (then) 582
with all the yellow bungs still in, 2 props, still in
boxes (one wood and one ground adjustable)
there is composite wing skins and composite L/E "D"
boxes (inner ones are tanks) lots of blue and brown foam
ribs etc. and I have all the engine, wing and fuse kits
(bags of bits) and it all appears complete except for
there are no main spars! Can these still be purchased as
I assume they will be the composite variety?

Also I have borrowed some construction books from
another Pulsar owner but they refer to wood wings so if
anyone has some with composite wings I can borrow so I
can copy and return it would be appreciated.

thanks in advance

Dave Stephens




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PostPosted: Thu Oct 10, 2013 12:47 pm    Post subject: Re: Pulsar Spar Reply with quote

I have both blue foam and the brown foam ribs. although the wings are designed for fuel, I am still toying with the idea of a fuselage tank. all depends what spar I end up with.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 10, 2013 2:13 pm    Post subject: Pulsar Spar Reply with quote

The composite spar ribs are different than the wood spar ribs.

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If you can't get composite spars would it be possible to construct spruce spars as per the earlier Pulsars? I guess in this case the MTOW would be limited to that of the earlier Pulsars.
Perhaps someone knows and can advise if wooden spars would be compatible with the other bits you have for your wings?
Jst ideas
BobP

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 10, 2013 2:15 pm    Post subject: Pulsar Spar Reply with quote

Dave, a fuselage tank with a 912 engine exceeds the design weight.

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I have both blue foam and the brown foam ribs. although the wings are designed for fuel, I am still toying with the idea of a fuselage tank. all depends what spar I end up with.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 10, 2013 2:39 pm    Post subject: Pulsar Spar Reply with quote

Bob Taylor has a set of wings for sale. I don't know what spars they might
have but I believe they have the blue foam ribs.
I have both blue foam and the brown foam ribs. although the wings are
designed for fuel, I am still toying with the idea of a fuselage tank. all
depends what spar I end up with.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 11, 2013 12:03 am    Post subject: Re: Pulsar Spar Reply with quote

These guys or others out there would be able to manufacture and test a wing spar to your requirements:

http://www.steenaero.com/Products/wing_laminated_spars.cfm

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 11, 2013 1:09 am    Post subject: Re: Pulsar Spar Reply with quote

do you know if Bobs wings are in kit form or complete? I don't want built wings

thanks Matt, I will fire Steen an email,

Cheers

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 13, 2013 4:02 pm    Post subject: Pulsar Spar Reply with quote

HiThe wings that I have are completely built with BLUE ribs, The wings are completely built and 2 oz fiberglass
covered ready for paint.
I am looking for a 582 engine, top cowling, and engine mount. I bulit this plane for a 912 (which I have in my shop,
brand new, never installed along with Ricks exhaust and other parts. Mark Brown sait last week that I had to put
a 582 engine as the airfrane would not stand up to the 912 engine. Any help would be appreciated.
Pulsarbob, Bob Taylor

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Bob Taylor has a set of wings for sale. I don't know what spars they might
have but I believe they have the blue foam ribs.
I have both blue foam and the brown foam ribs. although the wings are
designed for fuel, I am still toying with the idea of a fuselage tank. all
depends what spar I end up with.

Dave


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 13, 2013 4:26 pm    Post subject: Pulsar Spar Reply with quote

I have a new 20 year old 582 engine available. I had it overhauled a couple of years ago to have it updated. At that time, it was given its initial runup to Rotax specifications. I also know where there is a 582 motor mount that could be used as a model to weld another one.

Also, I might be interested in a trade for the 912 depending on how much difference there would be in price!

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 13, 2013 8:09 pm    Post subject: Pulsar Spar Reply with quote


Bob,
I have a full unused 582 engine mount, installation support blocks and the heavy aluminum cross beams to accomodate the engine mounts.

Keith Palmer

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 2:07 am    Post subject: Re: Pulsar Spar Reply with quote

if the wings are for sale bob contact me please davestephens(at)dssl.co.uk

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 4:32 pm    Post subject: Pulsar Spar Reply with quote

p { margin: 0; }Dave SThe wings are for sale Please make an offer. I will have to build a box to ship them but any offer
would appreciated.
Pulsarbob, Bob Taylor

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if the wings are for sale bob contact me please davestephens(at)dssl.co.uk

Just in case the forum plays with the email address davestephens at dssl.co.uk

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 11:12 pm    Post subject: Re: Pulsar Spar Reply with quote

Where abouts are you based bob?

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 15, 2013 5:27 am    Post subject: Pulsar Spar Reply with quote

DaveI live at 8 Harmony Lane, Ivoryton, CT. (near New London) 06442
Pulsarbob, Bob Taylor

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